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Eels deliver ultimatum to Daniel Anderson: Step Down or be Sacked & accused of racism

Should Anderson get the sack?


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Twizzle

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I'd like to know the thoughts of those jumping up and down at the highlighted quote by Mr Duncon who apparently was one of 2 directors who voted to keep him.

the plans he is talking about, are they Leagues club or football club ?

how can Anderson implement a plan if he gets sacked mid contract

dumb, dumb, dumb.

totally agree

our board make a knee jerk decision and they seem to have very short memories about Ando's achievements last year, yet look at their performance over the last few months
 

Gronk

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FMD people were blowing up when Smithy was informed that his contract was not be renewed the following year. Compared to this debacle, it was a template for coaching transition.

I don't mind a new coach. I can certainly see the deficiencies with our structure this year, but in defence with Ando he can only work with the cattle he has in the paddock.

Like everyone here except a few loyalists, I am appalled with the way it's been handled. If the Board did make an attempt to make the coach move on without paying out his final year (Ando's desperate approach to a radio station evidenced that) then they are lower than a cut snake.

Like the shafting of KRudd, there will be a backlash in the electorate without a doubt.
 

hineyrulz

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FMD we are the laughing stock of the league, we are a halfback away from being a top 4 side. We have the money but none are available. We sign one of the best under 20's halves which is smart. Can't see more what DA could of done. It's not like he got rid of Maloney and Hodgkinson and sign a Nuffy like Finch to an absurd contract :? We were still paying for the Merkin this year, DA inherted a rabble from Hagan and less than two years after taking over with practically the same squad that Nuffy put together he gets the arse........
 

fish eel

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I'd like to know why he voted to keep him given that he was so shocked about what he found? :?

doesn't sound to me like he voted to keep him (well not to let him finish his current contract) - who supplied the info that he backed ando?

Have they even met to vote yet? I think that's another thing Hadley got wrong. The meeting is this week
 

fish eel

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the plans he is talking about, are they Leagues club or football club ?

how can Anderson implement a plan if he gets sacked mid contract

I assume it's a referenc to the football side given the review was of a football side.

Surely, thats Daniel Andersons job to put in place a plan, whether it be a one year, two year of whatever, so that you know where we're heading?

If he hasnt put a plan in mid contract (which is after 2 years of a 3 year deal so a bit more than mid), then surely thats a concern?

FMD people were blowing up when Smithy was informed that his contract was not be renewed the following year. Compared to this debacle, it was a template for coaching transition.

I don't mind a new coach. I can certainly see the deficiencies with our structure this year, but in defence with Ando he can only work with the cattle he has in the paddock.

Like everyone here except a few loyalists, I am appalled with the way it's been handled. If the Board did make an attempt to make the coach move on without paying out his final year (Ando's desperate approach to a radio station evidenced that) then they are lower than a cut snake.


Like the shafting of KRudd, there will be a backlash in the electorate without a doubt.

I dont know about that Gronk.

I thought the review was a good, smart and professional thing to do. Obviously it went pearshaped with the story yesterday, but its looking like that never came from the board.

I havent read everything, so not sure where you got the bit we tried to move him on without paying out his final year? The vilification stuff? Naturally, if that is what the intention was, it's an absolute disgrace - but Mateo has denied that and Osborne said he'd never heard of it.
 

Gronk

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Have they even met to vote yet? I think that's another thing Hadley got wrong. The meeting is this week

If Ando is coach next year then he got it wrong. If Kearney is the coach next year then he got it right with some minor details wonky.

Frankly if it wasn't Hadley it would have been Rothfield or someone from Fairfax - does it really matter ? No I'm not a CCT apologist or even supporter (I listen to the ABC on the weekends) BTW.

I would think that the only mob who got it wrong were the Board, on so many levels.
 

fish eel

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If Ando is coach next year then he got it wrong. If Kearney is the coach next year then he got it right with some minor details wonky.

Frankly if it wasn't Hadley it would have been Rothfield or someone from Fairfax - does it really matter ? No I'm not a CCT apologist or even supporter (I listen to the ABC on the weekends) BTW.


If Kearney is the coach next year Hadley got the end result right with details wrong. Like most things Hadley says, it's often made up of truths, part truths and things that just arent true

I would think that the only mob who got it wrong were the Board, on so many levels.

Well, I actually think they put in place a professional process that went pearshaped. I dont think we had a review after Smith or Hagan? I also thought it was prudent how Osborne did not put any 3P directors onto the review. Very professional IMO, and if we believe Rothfield it's been Ando (thought probably his manager) who caused the process to go pearshaped.

I also think the decision to punt Ando CAN be justified. I'm not happy to see him go but can see why - and in some of your posts you've said you can see why as well so I dont think they've got it as wrong as you say ;-)

Someone like Dellboy has made some good arguments in favour of sacking the coach.
 

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''As a businessman, I was shocked there were no structures, policies, procedures or disciplines in place,'' Duncan said. ''I thought of Parramatta as the envy of other clubs as far as structure but it had all fallen away. There was not even a one-year plan let alone a three- or five-year plan.''
Asked his view on the coaching situation, Duncan said: ''If we're not going to extend Daniel's contract … and the way things are going that is not the view [of the board] … then I'm in favour of making a change.
''If you put Stephen Kearney's name up and you asked me is he someone who could put in disciplined structures and a playing style for the future - yes, he can.
''But we need to start with some disciplines and structures first. That's my personal view.''
with Daniel Lane


http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...d-as-eels-turn-to-kearney-20100925-15ri8.html

I'd like to know the thoughts of those jumping up and down at the highlighted quote by Mr Duncon who apparently was one of 2 directors who voted to keep him.


The highlighted area concerns me most and would make me seriously consider a plan B. Coupled with his poor communications skills I find the results of the review (if true) alarming.
 

Glenn

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''As a businessman, I was shocked there were no structures, policies, procedures or disciplines in place,'' Duncan said. ''I thought of Parramatta as the envy of other clubs as far as structure but it had all fallen away. There was not even a one-year plan let alone a three- or five-year plan.''

''If you put Stephen Kearney's name up and you asked me is he someone who could put in disciplined structures and a playing style for the future - yes, he can.
''But we need to start with some disciplines and structures first. That's my personal view.''
with Daniel Lane

That for me sums up why 3P have failed to deliver, no structure for developing the team just a haphazard approach of sit back hope for the best, and when it goes pear shaped shaft the coach.
Professionalism is not just required on field.
 

Gronk

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If Kearney is the coach next year Hadley got the end result right with details wrong. Like most things Hadley says, it's often made up of truths, part truths and things that just arent true
You tomato I say tomato. Agree that he's a pelican, but he exposed that the board are going to punt the coach. The racism claim won't be proven without some serious digging under oath.



Well, I actually think they put in place a professional process that went pearshaped. I dont think we had a review after Smith or Hagan? I also thought it was prudent how Osborne did not put any 3P directors onto the review. Very professional IMO, and if we believe Rothfield it's been Ando (thought probably his manager) who caused the process to go pearshaped.

I also think the decision to punt Ando CAN be justified. I'm not happy to see him go but can see why - and in some of your posts you've said you can see why as well so I dont think they've got it as wrong as you say ;-)

Someone like Dellboy has made some good arguments in favour of sacking the coach.

I don't have a problem with the review or the decision that he needs to move on. I do have a problem with the way that it's been handled starting from the lies from all and sundry when Ozzie went to Melbourne and thereafter the smokescreen from the Chairman when he attempted the clear the air regarding Ando's tenure. It wasn't bad luck that it went pear shaped it was bad management.
 

cv8z

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Well no one has come out and said DA is gone. Ffs, do these puppets know what they are doing. We are the laughing stock of the nrl, and I truely hope the players rebel.

4 coaches in 5 years, no wonder we are struggling.

The players have voiced their opinion via the report conducted by the club.
4 coaches in 14 years too btw
 

Uncle Leo

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Eels insist Anderson must go

Axe falling ... Parramatta Eels coach, Daniel Anderson. Source: The Daily Telegraph



PARRAMATTA coach Daniel Anderson is facing the sack within 48 hours after losing the support of the club's $3 million major sponsor and Eels board members.

Eels chairman Roy Spagnolo is expected to fast track a board meeting originally set down for Tuesday to decide Anderson's future after a day of high drama yesterday.
It was revealed Anderson had been offered the opportunity on Friday to resign to save himself from the embarrassment of being sacked.
His expected departure follows an internal review of the disastrous 2010 season in which the Eels failed to make the semi-finals just 12 months after storming to a grand final.
The review was conducted by chief executive Paul Osborne and board members Geoff Gerard and Glen Duncan, who is also chief executive of the club's major sponsor Pirtek.
Duncan yesterday broke from boardroom protocol to reveal his opinion that Anderson should be replaced by Kiwi coach Stephen Kearney.
"I think the position is untenable for Daniel to stay," Duncan said. "Daniel's a good guy. I think he's had a hard time, but sometimes you've got to make these decisions for the club to move forward.
"I mean, if he loses his first three or four games everyone's going to be pointing the finger at him and I think it's unfair for him to be coaching under those conditions.
"I said recently you either have to commit to Daniel and extend his contract or you have to part company because no one can coach for one year. I haven't seen a coach yet coach for one year.
"They always end up like Ricky Stuart did this year. Once a decision has been made it's the last year, I think everything just falls into a heap. We can't go through a year like that."
Duncan says he supports the moves to appoint Kiwi Test coach Kearney, who has been Craig Bellamy's understudy at Melbourne Storm.
"Unless I'm convinced otherwise [at the board meeting], I believe that's the right thing for the club to do," Duncan said. "To me, Kearney would be a good choice and he could implement the structure the club needs."
The drama over Anderson's future follows an internal review by the Eels into their dismal season.
The review was completed on Friday and emailed to board members yesterday to study before their meeting.
The Sunday Telegraph understands Anderson had the support of most senior players when they were interviewed over the past fortnight.
But it was a different story when members of his own coaching staff and other football club officials where interviewed by Gerard, Osborne and Duncan.
Among the recommendations from the report were: not to extend Anderson's contract; appoint a wrestling coach; address Anderson's communication skills with his staff; address the lack of player discipline and punctuality at training; more individual skill sessions; and the need for a better recruitment policy.
The report also recommended the appointment of a full-time football manager, which Anderson had originally not wanted.
Osborne was reluctant to comment about Anderson's future or details of the report.
"It is something we hope will be sorted as soon as possible so the club can get down to the business of preparing for next season," Osborne said.
Anderson's fall from grace, a season after taking the Eels to the grand final, is rare but not unprecedented.
The cut-throat nature of coaching at the highest level has claimed three other high-profile scalps in the modern era.
The biggest was Warren Ryan. He was at the helm when Canterbury figured in three straight grand finals from 1984 to 1986, winning two, before being shown the door at the end of the 1987 season.
Graham Murray lifted Easts to the 2000 decider, only to be sacked a season later.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/eels-insist-anderson-must-go/story-e6frexnr-1225929346620
 
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Gordy

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Eels insist Anderson must go

Axe falling ... Parramatta Eels coach, Daniel Anderson. Source: The Daily Telegraph



PARRAMATTA coach Daniel Anderson is facing the sack within 48 hours after losing the support of the club's $3 million major sponsor and Eels board members.

Eels chairman Roy Spagnolo is expected to fast track a board meeting originally set down for Tuesday to decide Anderson's future after a day of high drama yesterday.
It was revealed Anderson had been offered the opportunity on Friday to resign to save himself from the embarrassment of being sacked.
His expected departure follows an internal review of the disastrous 2010 season in which the Eels failed to make the semi-finals just 12 months after storming to a grand final.
The review was conducted by chief executive Paul Osborne and board members Geoff Gerard and Glen Duncan, who is also chief executive of the club's major sponsor Pirtek.
Duncan yesterday broke from boardroom protocol to reveal his opinion that Anderson should be replaced by Kiwi coach Stephen Kearney.
"I think the position is untenable for Daniel to stay," Duncan said. "Daniel's a good guy. I think he's had a hard time, but sometimes you've got to make these decisions for the club to move forward.
"I mean, if he loses his first three or four games everyone's going to be pointing the finger at him and I think it's unfair for him to be coaching under those conditions.
"I said recently you either have to commit to Daniel and extend his contract or you have to part company because no one can coach for one year. I haven't seen a coach yet coach for one year.
"They always end up like Ricky Stuart did this year. Once a decision has been made it's the last year, I think everything just falls into a heap. We can't go through a year like that."
Duncan says he supports the moves to appoint Kiwi Test coach Kearney, who has been Craig Bellamy's understudy at Melbourne Storm.
"Unless I'm convinced otherwise [at the board meeting], I believe that's the right thing for the club to do," Duncan said. "To me, Kearney would be a good choice and he could implement the structure the club needs."
The drama over Anderson's future follows an internal review by the Eels into their dismal season.
The review was completed on Friday and emailed to board members yesterday to study before their meeting.
The Sunday Telegraph understands Anderson had the support of most senior players when they were interviewed over the past fortnight.
But it was a different story when members of his own coaching staff and other football club officials where interviewed by Gerard, Osborne and Duncan.
Among the recommendations from the report were: not to extend Anderson's contract; appoint a wrestling coach; address Anderson's communication skills with his staff; address the lack of player discipline and punctuality at training; more individual skill sessions; and the need for a better recruitment policy.
The report also recommended the appointment of a full-time football manager, which Anderson had originally not wanted.

Osborne was reluctant to comment about Anderson's future or details of the report.
"It is something we hope will be sorted as soon as possible so the club can get down to the business of preparing for next season," Osborne said.
Anderson's fall from grace, a season after taking the Eels to the grand final, is rare but not unprecedented.
The cut-throat nature of coaching at the highest level has claimed three other high-profile scalps in the modern era.
The biggest was Warren Ryan. He was at the helm when Canterbury figured in three straight grand finals from 1984 to 1986, winning two, before being shown the door at the end of the 1987 season.
Graham Murray lifted Easts to the 2000 decider, only to be sacked a season later.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/eels-insist-anderson-must-go/story-e6frexnr-1225929346620


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Some interesting points there though.
 
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OK, folks, so we kind of know how the situation has turned out. There are a lot of threads here listing a lot of different articles, rumours etc so I thought it might be a good idea to put our thoughts into one poll thread that deals specifically with how we feel about what has happened.

I'm going to make it a public poll as no doubt we'll be making comments relating to our opinions.
 

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We're all die-hard Eels fans, but even we can admit the side we have on paper is fairly average. We have some eye-popping deficiencies that were on the verge of being addressed (eg: we need a halfback, Ando signs a talented young NYC halfback), and he gets punted.

He doesn't deserve to be fired.
 

Wise Old Eel

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We're all die-hard Eels fans, but even we can admit the side we have on paper is fairly average. We have some eye-popping deficiencies that were on the verge of being addressed (eg: we need a halfback, Ando signs a talented young NYC halfback), and he gets punted.

He doesn't deserve to be fired.

That's the smartest thing I have read today. If any of the "powers that be" are reading this forum, you would do well to take heed.

WOE
 

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