Eels Salary Cap MK II

[Delboy]

Well, sitting here watching Game of Thrones, if only I could bring th Night Walkers with me tonight, then take them to a meeting with Greenberg. - oh happy days, if only

The biggest fear is that the dope that heads the NRL reacts to the pressure and speculation from the media
hounds like Slothfields, Kent (incorrect spelling), Raaaay, Prozenko, et al, let's hope he is better than that ( don't think he is)

 

[hineyrulz]

I'm pretty sure you can put forward a motion from the floor during the meeting. It's a commonly used tactics in situations like these intended to sandbag the people you are trying to beat, not giving them notice to rally support against the motion.

What I'm really looking for here, is not to see if anyone is a DF supporter, but I want to see if those who dislike the board have a "anything to get rid of the current board" mentality.

Doubt anybody would want that prick back, him and his best two mates have done nothing to bring this club to its knees.


But if we get hit with the big stick I think we will the boards posistions are untenable and they'll be as good as gone anyway.

 

[ash411]

We will be playing for no competition points this year, I think we should all prepare ourselves to be the butt of jokes and just cop all the shit that comes to us on the chin.

There is no way this ends ok for us imo.

Why though? Has the stuff we've heard about really been that damning? Is it really on the level of the Storm & the Bulldogs? My understanding is that it is a few TPA's.

You can't (or shouldn't) really factor in the previous breaches, because we've already been investigated and subsequently punished for said breaches, so they can't be part of the "list of charges" as it were. Sure they might add to the amount of points (as past offences might increase a criminals sentencing) but not to that extent.

Or are you buying into the "The NRL is out to get us" theory?

 

[Johnny88]

Should the NRL have given its findings today before the AGM?

 

[eel01s]

I am not against the current board per se. However if it is proven that members of the current board have acted in a way that results in the loss of competition points then they (and any named officials) would have to go.

I definitely do not want to reward any group or individual responsible for the leaks that have led to the current investigations.

DF should never be heard of again.

I would just like to see the Parramatta Eels put first and be run professionally.

 

[Kornstar]

Why though? Has the stuff we've heard about really been that damning? Is it really on the level of the Storm & the Bulldogs? My understanding is that it is a few TPA's.

You can't (or shouldn't) really factor in the previous breaches, because we've already been investigated and subsequently punished for said breaches, so they can't be part of the "list of charges" as it were. Sure they might add to the amount of points (as past offences might increase a criminals sentencing) but not to that extent.

Or are you buying into the "The NRL is out to get us" theory?

Nah, nothing to do with the NRL out to get us, I just believe we have really f**ked up and have now been found out.

Footy clubs are backyard operations and I find it hard to believe that in the salary cap era there aren't a multitude of payments to players in odd ways and if they are forensically auditing us then they had to uncover some stuff that is going to drop us in the shit.

I suspect that all clubs would be in shit but the fact is that we are the ones who have people within the organisation wanting to bring us down and we'll just have to cop it.

Too much has been in the media for there not to be enough to destroy us for this year!

 

[Gronk]

I am not against the current board per se. However if it is proven that members of the current board have acted in a way that results in the loss of competition points then they (and any named officials) would have to go.

I definitely do not want to reward any group or individual responsible for the leaks that have led to the current investigations.

DF should never be heard of again.

I would just like to see the Parramatta Eels put first and be run professionally.

Agree. We just need to be very careful going forward. If ejecting the current board is the popular view, we need to look for strategies to ensure that the usual suspects don't nominate their puppets, again.

 

[ash411]

Doubt anybody would want that prick back, him and his best two mates have done nothing to bring this club to its knees.


But if we get hit with the big stick I think we will the boards posistions are untenable and they'll be as good as gone anyway.

If we are hit with the big stick and the NRL says to us "Board members X Y and Z did this, and this, and this, here's the undeniable proof of it, this is why we are punishing the Eels.

If board members X, Y and Z don't resign that same day, they should be thrown out on their ears. I believe that 100%.

That being said, until I see said undeniable proof, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, as should everyone else. Taking the media's word for it is stupidity, same as taking anybody's (and I mean anybody's) word for it unless they can provide proof that has been ratified by the NRL.

Does anyone believe that (from what we currently know, well sort of know) that such a heavy penalty is justified? And if you don't why are sure we'll get one anyway?

 

[eel01s]

Remember Kornstar, we had the chance to come clean on anything dodgy. There shouldn't have been any skeletons left in the closet.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

You would assume by now, that most outlets / poster would have a similar opinion / info on what our penalty may be. But I just had a look at some Twitter posts and the Lurker ( obviously all just bullshit guesses) and the opinion of what our penalty will be is:

- 4 to 10 points most likely 8
- 26 points
- 26 points with 20 suspended with sharp / DA / board members to stand down.

I think nobody really has an clue what our penalty will be.

But gee I am hoping Avengers source is wrong!! Going to tough if that happens.

 

[Kornstar]

Remember Kornstar, we had the chance to come clean on anything dodgy. There shouldn't have been any skeletons left in the closet.

Well I don't believe they did come clean to begin with and it is why I think we are f**ked and will have no points come tomorrow morning.

 

[Gronk]

Remember Kornstar, we had the chance to come clean on anything dodgy. There shouldn't have been any skeletons left in the closet.

Well I don't believe they did come clean to begin with and it is why I think we are f**ked and will have no points come tomorrow morning.

If true, then we were being deceitful or it was such a shemozzle in the back office that the left hand did not know what the right hand was doing.

Neither are acceptable really.

 

[ash411]

You would assume by now, that most outlets / poster would have a similar opinion / info on what our penalty may be. But I just had a look at some Twitter posts and the Lurker ( obviously all just bullshit guesses) and the opinion of what our penalty will be is:

- 4 to 10 points most likely 8
- 26 points
- 26 points with 20 suspended with sharp / DA / board members to stand down.

I think nobody really has an clue what our penalty will be.

But gee I am hoping Avengers source is wrong!! Going to tough if that happens.

There's one guy that really knows right now. That is Todd Greenburg. As has been said, determining our punishment (Should be deserve one) is his final decision. Seeing as he hasn't issued a breach notice to the Eels yet, he is still the only guy that knows for sure if a punishment is going to be handed out.

The integrity unit guy that wrote the report has an opinion of our guilt/innocence, but doesn't know if we will be punished, or what that punishment will be.

Chances are that Greenburg is probably conferring with a few people at NRL HQ, I would expect him too, big decision to make on your own. But I imagine (more hope) that they are professional enough to not be talking to anybody (I'm probably wrong though).

I also can't imagine that Greenberg would be swayed by the media, He can't really punish us without supporting evidence/justification, just because the media want him to, He surely know we will challenge an unfair punishment he can't back up with proof.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Well I don't believe they did come clean to begin with and it is why I think we are f**ked and will have no points come tomorrow morning.

But maybe the Board did come clean but they werent full aware of what the employees were doing? That is very possible, while it isn't a good look, it happens all the time in large organisations. And this matter would be addressed by improvements to our governance structure.

We had a pretty full on investigation / audit last year, surely if the board had knowledge of TPA issues they would have informed the NRL knowing there was a good chance the audit would find it.

 

[ash411]

If true, then we were being deceitful or it was such a shemozzle in the back office that the left hand did not know what the right hand was doing.

Neither are acceptable really.

True, Ignorance doesn't equal innocence. Being dumb enough to unknowingly get us into big trouble is as bad (if not worse) than being dumb enough to deliberately do really bad stuff and get caught.

 

[Stagger eel]

I have a question for you, and I'd like your honest opinion.

You don't like the current board, we've pretty much established that, so I want to throw a hypothetical at you.

Let's say you go to the AGM tonight (I assume you would be) and DF calls for a No confidence motion against the current board, but hey, all is not lost, He also suggests that he and 6 of his buddies (all qualified of course) are willing to step in a take the reigns until the scheduled elections are to be held next year.

The way he words the motion means that a vote for one Idea is a vote for both, i.e. if you want rid of the board, you have to put DF and his mates in their place.

Do you vote yes?

I will vote no...

Given what I already know, I don't want him or a certain other person involved with the club ever again.

 

[parra-matters]

Heard that they are looking the doors to the room at 5:45pm, so if you are going get there early say 5:30pm and get in there or you'll be locked out.

 

[T-Boon]

Agree. We just need to be very careful going forward. If ejecting the current board is the popular view, we need to look for strategies to ensure that the usual suspects don't nominate their puppets, again.

I think it is more important to be 100% sure that the old factions and those responsible for the leaks are not put back in charge or rewarded for their meddling. It is definitely better to keep the current board than that horrible scenario.

 

[El Diablo]

will that French guy and his 800 twins go and move a motion to bring back Spags?

 

[Gazzamatta]

I will be there tonight, my resolve for attending is to vote against anything that DF or his cronies put forward, the majority of issues surrounding the club seem to come from one source .

A despicable merkin who should just fornicate elsewhere

Ditto. Save me a seat.