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Eels Salary Cap MK II

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phantom eel

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Third Party Agreements are by their nature part of a player's reasons for choosing a contract with one club over another. It stands to reason that a club has to cultivate a collective of willing Third Parties, from which players and their managers can draw upon to supplement the slary amount paid by the club.

However it's against the rules for the club to guarantee the TPA payments, and the club has to be at arms length from the Third Parties... it's such a stupid system, bound to fail or come undone. I don't see anything that we have been accused of doing through the media as being different to what would be going on across all the clubs in the NRL under current rules.

If the TPA system proves too tricky to "police", then the TPA rules need changing.

TPAs are only there in the first place to satsify greedy elite players and their managers, as a means of trying to stop them code-hopping to chase the almighty dollar (Sonny Bill, Gasnier, etc back in the day). If it's all about the money, I say who cares, let them go - $BW, Gasnier, even Hayne have all proved replaceable in the broader sense of the game.
 

Poupou Escobar

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TPAs are only there in the first place to satsify greedy elite players and their managers, as a means of trying to stop them code-hopping to chase the almighty dollar (Sonny Bill, Gasnier, etc back in the day).

I agree totally.

If it's all about the money, I say who cares, let them go - $BW, Gasnier, even Hayne have all proved replaceable in the broader sense of the game.

I disagree. In the eyes of the fans (especially neutral fans, as relates to watching games unrelated to their own club), these players are in fact bigger than the game. The huge names are huge drawcards and they do actually bring in a lot of revenue for the game. For example, I'll watch Parra whether Hayne/Foran is in the team or not, but whether I watch Souths (for example) has a lot to do with the presence of Sam Burgess and/or Greg Inglis. I believe the market research has confirmed this is true for consumer behaviour regarding pro sports.
 

caylo

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I disagree. In the eyes of the fans (especially neutral fans, as relates to watching games unrelated to their own club), these players are in fact bigger than the game. The huge names are huge drawcards and they do actually bring in a lot of revenue for the game. For example, I'll watch Parra whether Hayne/Foran is in the team or not, but whether I watch Souths (for example) has a lot to do with the presence of Sam Burgess and/or Greg Inglis. I believe the market research has confirmed this is true for consumer behaviour regarding pro sports.

This is probably very true. While there are the fans that will watch their teams irrespective of who plays etc as a whole the NRL is the players. Without the players there are no clubs, there is no NRL. While hayne or Inglis might not individually have an importance compared to the game but collectively the marquee (or lack there of) players are what give the game it's brand. Possibly we should follow an nfl style system where players own their own brand, that way good players will attract individual deals from nike, asics etc
 

hybrideel

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I agree totally.



I disagree. In the eyes of the fans (especially neutral fans, as relates to watching games unrelated to their own club), these players are in fact bigger than the game. The huge names are huge drawcards and they do actually bring in a lot of revenue for the game. For example, I'll watch Parra whether Hayne/Foran is in the team or not, but whether I watch Souths (for example) has a lot to do with the presence of Sam Burgess and/or Greg Inglis. I believe the market research has confirmed this is true for consumer behaviour regarding pro sports.

I agree there. I'll watch Parra regardless of who is playing or not, but unless i have nothing else to do, my interest in watching other games depends on whether i think it will be a good game to watch or not which laregely depends on the big name players
 

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This column first questioned the track record of Scott Seward when he left the Bulldogs and joined Parramatta.

We told you how when he was merchandising manager at the Bulldogs there had been $90,000 worth of Bulldogs merchandise that was not properly accounted for. The Nike gear was not in stock and it was not in sales. There was never a question of any criminal activity on his behalf, it was just stock that disappeared under his watch. It turns out a very high-ranking official at the club had questions to answer on that matter.

Then there was Seward's decision to employ his mother, Robin. And his sister Kelly. And his two cousins. And even more bizarre was the way his colleagues said he would deal with the takings from game-day merchandise sales. If there was a crowd of 40,000, the cash sales could be as high as $40,000. The conventional manner of handling that would be to take the cash and place it in the safe at Canterbury Leagues Club and count it on the first weekday after the game. But he apparently had the habit of taking it home and putting it under his bed for safe keeping.

Club angst: Former Eels chief executive Scott Seward.
Club angst: Former Eels chief executive Scott Seward. Photo: Getty Images

Now his role in the Eel's current cap and third-party sponsor woes will be put under the microscope. The news that the investigation into Parramatta officials would include a forensic examination of computers was supposed to send shivers down the spine of the Parramatta directors. Instead they are overjoyed, because it will include an investigation of former employees, including Seward.

You'll remember that Seward was the chief executive who did a great job in signing Kieran Foran – but he included a clause that allowed him to leave the club and be paid close to a million dollars if there was any "drama" at the club. To say that there is angst surrounding Seward is an understatement.

The feeling is the opposite when it comes to Steve Sharp. The respect and regard that the board hold him in has shocked me. From a distance he comes across as bumbling, and he appeared to me to be the wrong man for the job.

The board can't speak highly enough of Sharp. Calls for his head have infuriated the board. One board member said: "The new board and CEO have been unfairly treated in the media. We are furious at what appears to be a public hanging of the wrong people. We are fixing up the mess of the old cronies. The investigation will show this."

http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-league/le...ue-immortal-andrew-johns-20160326-gnrlv4.html
 

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So lets assume we will lose points.

Has any team that has been seriously penalised over cap issues had their management survive? Or have they all got the ass? Dogs, storm had their scapegoats. What about warriors? Had they already changed prior to getting whacked? ... I guess we have turfed seward tho i dont think his stupidity is for cap dodginess
 

Stagger eel

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I'll be selling popcorn at the next AGM ...

I should be able to pay off my mortgage that night.
 

hineyrulz

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So lets assume we will lose points.

Has any team that has been seriously penalised over cap issues had their management survive? Or have they all got the ass? Dogs, storm had their scapegoats. What about warriors? Had they already changed prior to getting whacked? ... I guess we have turfed seward tho i dont think his stupidity is for cap dodginess
Its all the warlords fault.
 
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