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Eels Salary Cap MK II

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Gronk

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I'll ask you the same question again. Why does the fact that they didn't conduct a fresh investigation while doing their 'regular visit' mean that they conducted no investigation in earlier years? Show me the allegations to which you refer.

No I can't provide you with a Telecrap link stating that there was not a thorough investigation nor can you provide me with one that there was.

The whole thing did not pass the sniff test and everyone (except you it seems) was left :shock: surprised by the NRL's nothing-to-see-here-move-along attitude. Same goes with the Broncos and the Andrew Gee situation.
 

Captain BF

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I was told Fitzgerald is working for the NRL at the moment. Does anyone know if A, it's true and B, what role he's doing?

Not casting any aspersions or suggesting anything untoward is happening, just interested to find out.
 

I bleed blue & gold

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I was told Fitzgerald is working for the NRL at the moment. Does anyone know if A, it's true and B, what role he's doing?

Not casting any aspersions or suggesting anything untoward is happening, just interested to find out.

I know someone who knows him fairly well and he hasn't said anything about it. He usually likes to brag about anything like that so i doubt it is happening.

But i am not certain.
 

I bleed blue & gold

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Fuc*ing Telegragh. These articles are ridiculous. They are just laying the boot in wherever they can. There is another article saying how we have the worst completion rate in the comp etc. Wasn't it last week they were saying how good our defence is? Lol Wankers.

I was wondering how long it would take for them to try to implicate DA.
 

EelsFan05

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How the hell are they getting direct quotes from club corrospondence!? It can't be coming from the old brigade because they wouldn't have access to them. Surely someone from the NRL must be leaking them. So much for an 'integrity unit'. The players will be filthy that their personal contact values have been leaked.

I can't see any other outcome then us losing points if this is all true.
 
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Gronk

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THE Parramatta Eels’ current head of football, Daniel Anderson, is at the centre of new *evidence the club guaranteed hundreds of thousands of dollars of third-party payments to star players including club captain Tim Mannah and gun winger Semi Radradra, in breach of NRL salary cap rules.

Confidential Eels emails obtained by The Daily Telegraph also show Anderson was in active discussions with Eels chairman Steve Sharp and deputy chairman Tom Issa about solving the club’s salary cap problems by “obtaining TPA (third party agreement) support for any newly acquired or extended contract negotiations”.

Another email gives an intriguing insight into the key role of TPAs in some players’ total packages at the Eels. It shows that on February 20, 2014, Anderson personally prepared Issa for the negotiation of Mannah’s contract until the end of the 2017 season.

The email begins: “Tom, For your discussion (concerning *Mannah’s contract)” — and goes on to outline a package to be offered that incorporates $225,000 of TPA payments, or $75,000 a year. This component forms an integral part of Mannah’s proposed three-year deal — with the TPAs apparently intrinsic to the contract. The payments beef up Mannah’s contract to “a total package worth $1,285,000 over three years”.

Five days later Anderson sent another email to club officials outlining a beefed-up package for NSW Origin player Mannah worth $1.32 million, or $35,000 more than the initial offer, over three years — again, incorporating a guaranteed $225,000 in TPAs over the period. This appears to follow the negotiations with Mannah’s representatives.

In another email to Anderson dated May 20, 2014, the contract of Eels star Semi Radradra, one of the NRL’s form players, is discussed. A representative of *Radradra tells Anderson what he needs “to get this deal done”. He requests “an additional $35K TPA” for the remainder of 2014, adding Radradra “needs this cash urgently to send back home (to Fiji) for a family issue”.

The email suggests Radradra be paid $1.375 million over four years to 2018, plus the $35,000 TPA for 2014, “to close this deal out”.

Meanwhile, on March 17, 2014, Anderson sent another email, this time addressed to both Issa and Sharp, outlining the club’s dire salary cap situation for 2015 and the role of TPAs in solving it.

Anderson notes in the email that, because of its salary cap problems, the club has “not *catered” for a number of its *players, including Vai Toutai, Willie Tonga, Joseph Paulo, Ben Smith and Ken Sio.

Parramatta Eels Tim Mannah and Semi Radradra (with Luke Kelly).
He suggests offloading players such as “Chris Sandow, Mitchell Allgood, Brenden Santi, Ryan Morgan”, and offering “TPA support” for “any newly acquired or extended contract negotiations”.

This appears to contradict the NRL’s salary cap rules, which require TPAs to be at “arm’s length”, and not to be organised as part of contract negotiations with the club.

In recent weeks The Telegraph has revealed a raft of internal documents that point to a systemic culture of using TPAs to flout NRL salary cap rules. Anderson concludes in his email: “Bottom line is we are not healthy …. another issue is our dumped contracts (Cheyse Blair and Jake Mullaney) already *occupy 140k in (the) 2nd tier *(salary cap) next year”.

In his Feb 20 email Anderson talks of offering Sandow a termination settlement, in the context of Eels salary cap issues. “We would have to allow for approximately 120k to be placed in 2015 Salary Cap.”

There is no suggestion that any of the players mentioned in this article have done anything wrong.

All of the emails in this story are from 2014, the year after Eels chairman Sharp and deputy chairman Issa took office. Recently, Sharp has defended the current Eels board’s track record, claiming that many of its problems have come from past administrations: “What’s different about the Eels these days is that we have better processes in place and an utter determination to improve our head office,” he said last month
.http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...o/news-story/da7613202fa929c1e53180c6c52f57de
 

Gronk

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How the hell are they getting direct quotes from club corrospondence!? It can't be coming from the old brigade because they wouldn't have access to them. Surely someone from the NRL must be leaking them. So much for an 'integrity unit'. The players will be filthy that their personal contact values have been leaked.

I can't see any other outcome then us losing points if this is all true.

The bolded bit in teh article says it's all about 2014 again. The agenda is clear. News Ltd want Sharp out and replaced with <insert name of the News Ltd preferred former merkin in charge>.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Would love to see whether all the footy managers / chairman / CEO of the other 15 NRL have ever discussed TPA's either verbally or via email ???
 

emjaycee

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I am getting like Gary... totally over it.
Have mentioned to a few people via PM what outcome I have been told the NRL (and whoever is supplying them info) wants and nothing to date has proven me wrong.

I just wish those concerned would stop the denial/delusional beliefs they have and move along so we can out of the press for all the wrong reasons.

Bring on May 2nd 6pm.
 

Kornstar

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How are the emails getting leaked? Only the people copied in on them should have them, so does that mean DA, Issa, Sharp would give them over?

It can't be the managers as that would mean all the different managers are handing them over.

Are the NRL leaking them to the Telegraph from their forensic investigation?

Wouldn't it be fairly easy to determine who is leaking stuff now when there is only a small circle of people who are copied in?

Just hurry the f**k up and take the points off us so we can move on!
 

Gronk

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I am getting like Gary... totally over it.
Have mentioned to a few people via PM what outcome I have been told the NRL (and whoever is supplying them info) wants and nothing to date has proven me wrong.

I just wish those concerned would stop the denial/delusional beliefs they have and move along so we can out of the press for all the wrong reasons.

Bring on May 2nd 6pm.

You're talking in riddles mate. I don't get what you're saying.
 

Kornstar

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You're talking in riddles mate. I don't get what you're saying.

I'm pretty sure what he's saying is we're f**ked, will lose points and that the people who have bought this to life have now got what they want and they can now f**k off......
 

Joshuatheeel

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I am getting like Gary... totally over it.
Have mentioned to a few people via PM what outcome I have been told the NRL (and whoever is supplying them info) wants and nothing to date has proven me wrong.

I just wish those concerned would stop the denial/delusional beliefs they have and move along so we can out of the press for all the wrong reasons.

Bring on May 2nd 6pm.

So with the NRL apparently leaking info and the Telecrap reporting it, I assume you may mean if the board walks we lose no points and if they don't we lose points.
 

hindy111

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My issue - Why was this not sorted last year when it came up? It has been hanging around for round 9mths now. If it was sorted out last year when salary cap breaches happened we could of been docked points last year and moved on.
The whole 3rd party mess and watmough was bought up last year so why is this taking so long?

So now we have to ask what punishment is fair and how much did the club gain from this?

If you look at some former breaches - Keeping in mind the warriors went over by 1.2mill over 2 years to lose 4 points!

So before you punish the club and its fans - I want to know how much did the team benefit- HOW MUCH ARE WE OVER ? If in total its 200k for i'd say we have no benefited a whole lot. And rather the guys in charge of the club should be held accountable.

Sick of hearing guys like Hadley saying its just like the storm and bulldogs. They where over closer to 1 million dollars for multiple years ( between 2-4 )
Warriors where 1.1 million over between 2 yrs. ( docked 4 points )


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rugby_League_salary_cap
 

SDM

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The timing is impeccable, keep building the outrage until 2nd May, then you get to report on that meeting, and the fallout.
Pardon the pun, but they are drip feeding the leaks to ensure it builds into what they want.
 
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