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Eels Salary Cap MK II

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phantom eel

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Guarantee 1 thing my friend..

100% of the room will do that and if Bart turns up it'll be 99.9999999% of the room.
:lol: Doesn't look like 100% (or even 50%?) of this forum have been brainwashed into "displeasure" with the current Board.

Hopefully the NRL stay strong and don't buckle to the agenda-driven media-hype, even if some Eels fans have been convinced the sky is falling.

One question... how can the grass be greener on the other side, when the other side appears to be a desert with no grass? :sarcasm:
 
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I will vote for whoever pi55es off the emperor off the most, stands to reason that is the current board

I get where you're coming from mate, and I understand that you have contributed a lot to the club. But, at the end of the day, surely it's best to just vote for the blokes who have best chance of securing the club's future (whoever that may be)? Or we just get stuck in this same rut.
 

strider

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Well so,mething did change. Its basically the same team bar foran and Scott

The others are playing muchh better and you can see it when they defend on theor own line

But hindy also played tough

I reckon its a combination of things

BAs coaching starts it, but its still only words
Watmough showed what it is to be tough, but he's just one tough merkin
Scott shows another level of tough, so now more examples of tough
Foran puts the little cherry on top of the toughness ... and people want to folow him
Everyone gets a bit older and better


Foran is a massive part i think ... watch him in press conferences. The way he listens to the people asking questions. He shows respect in his body language and the way he talks. These are just reporters, often the no name ones. Watch other press conferences - other players and coaches arent like Foran. I reckon he inspires others simply by the way he interacts. A born leader
 

El Diablo

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eels_fan

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CBF posting it but Kent reckons Greenberg has to show his strength and make sure our punishment deters others from cheating the cap, and against lumps us in the same bracket of breaches as the dogs/storm.
 

El Diablo

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Kent at it again pressuring the NRL and saying we're guilty http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...m/news-story/2951588aa9f71fb65cff09e9c3ebb249

NRL must come down hard on salary cap cheats and show clubs the price of rorting the system
an hour ago
PAUL KENTThe Daily Telegraph

THE three biggest salary cap scandals of the cap era came about not through clever investigation, but whistleblowers.

The best example of the difficulty the NRL faces exposing deliberate and systematic cheating that, last year, the NRL fined Parramatta more than $400,000 for salary cap discrepancies but uncovered none of the shenanigans being investigated now.

This, despite the Eels signing a legal document saying they had disclosed everything. Which is the point, really.

Without the aid of forensic auditors, of whom there is neither the time for nor the money in the annual cycle of NRL audits, there is no foolproof system to catch the cheating clubs.

So how do we stop it when we know it is going on? Do we continue knitting our scarves and beanies while we wait for the next whistleblower?

After the NRL punished Canterbury in 2002 the anecdotal evidence around the game was clubs briefly pulled their heads in.

Such was the ferocity of the penalty - the Dogs were clear premiership favourites and running away with it when all their points were stripped - it stunned many clubs into behaving.

Over time, though, the clubs felt safe again and got more clever about their secret payments and even a little careless, until Melbourne got caught in 2010.

That took eight years. Same fallout again, until the Eels were caught in March. This has taken six.

The problem this time is Parramatta’s comedy of calamities is so bordering on incompetence it might not even be enough to scare clubs into behaving.

No club will ever believe they could be as hopeless as the Eels have been. And they are probably right.

Regardless, on the third strike it is clear the deterrents for cheating the salary cap is not enough. An atmosphere prevails around the League that salary cap cheating is OK because everybody is doing it. Just don’t get caught.

The same mentality applies for some with speeding on the roads, or drink driving. A greater detriment needs to be found. The only way the NRL can do this is through penalty. The auditing process is not intensive enough and is failing to be a deterrent.

At some point the NRL needs to stop pretending it is not happening and take a serious approach to illegal third party payments and broader salary cap cheating. The time is now.

The Integrity Unit will finalise interviews with Eels officials this week and spend next week collating the evidence and writing a report. It is hoped chief executive Todd Greenberg will get the evidence by the end of next week and be ready with a decision the week after.

What penalty there will be, if there is, rests solely on Greenberg.

As soon as the Parramatta decision is reached some clear air will be available for the game to get some business done. It must show that appetite to fix it.

Greenberg has no better opportunity to make a strong impact in his new role. The NRL needs to change its approach. Accountability is the key, for all involved.

Forget all this head-in-the-sand defences being launched. The League needs to make it everybody’s job to know.

NRL officials, if found liable, should be banned for life. The same as officials and coaches who supply drugs in sports. They have the ultimate say whether a deal is formalised.

Any player managers involved should be banned for the duration of the contract or longer. Not only that, their companies should face the same penalty so we don’t have the laughable situation we saw a few years ago when a suspended manager simply brought in his son to “negotiate” player deals.

This puts the onus on companies to run tighter organisations and keep each other accountable. And players caught wrongfully taking payments should be suspended as well. That is correct.

They should be suspended for the duration of the contract they negotiated or time already used, whichever is longer. The first words from a player’s mouth at every negotiation after this will be do not expose me to risk.

The timing is perfect. The Rugby League Players Association will begin negotiating the next Collective Bargaining Agreement for the 2018 season.

Players will have no choice but to understand the contents of their contracts. The benefit of suspending only the players involved would be to save the club losing points as the Eels face now.

The reply for those complaining the rules are too draconian is simple. It’s like speeding, drink-driving. If nothing has happened, nothing can happen.
 

Delboy

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I get where you're coming from mate, and I understand that you have contributed a lot to the club. But, at the end of the day, surely it's best to just vote for the blokes who have best chance of securing the club's future (whoever that may be)? Or we just get stuck in this same rut.

True enough, but the bloke is such a pelican , he is a hateful pri@k and would just love to fu@k him over once and for all. :roll:
 

Delboy

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To give some perspective , the salary cap second tier issues that the club was find for. When RS got rid of the 12 players in 2013, he and DA at the time saw 4 possibly 5 players carried in our top 25 earners as we were responsible for that much of their payments ( Sticky just wanted them out no matter the cost )

Effctively in 2014, the club had only 20 possibly 21 players registered for NRL, consequently when injuries etc took their toll, players pulled up from Wenty and NYC were judged as being outside the cap. That was the reason for the breach, no attempt to overpay existing players, just that the club did not have enough NRL qualifying individuals.

I did hear that the NRL advised the football manager of the need to seek permission for players due to injuries and circumstances , I believe he did not always respond, that was part of the problem in that the players brought up were not approved prior to selection so did not meet salary cap exemption.

Kent has softened a bit by reading the article, but again he made it seem as if the breach was similar to the Storm and Dogs ' which was not the case. That doesn't suit his agenda , but it was still a breach.

The distance between admin and coaching grows
 

Basil Brush

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I can't help but like Paul Kent. He's a f**ken merkin with a hard on for us getting butt f**ked, but still...

I do not hate anyone in rugby league more than i hate Kent and Roy fckg Hadley. Their agenda is so obvious.

If we lose more than 4 points, i will make sure i do not go to another league game this year. I will also lose most of my interest in the game for this season.
 

EelsFan05

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Kent writes as if we are guilty. This is a trial by media and its bullshit. I expect to lose points, not because we do or don't deserve it, but Greenburg knows he will be crucified by the vultures if he doesn't.
 

Chipmunk

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Kent writes as if we are guilty. This is a trial by media and its bullshit. I expect to lose points, not because we do or don't deserve it, but Greenburg knows he will be crucified by the vultures if he doesn't.

The NRL is not that stupid that they would just punish the club without sufficient evidence/justification. They probably already feel that the club will probably take the matter to court anyway, so I'd imagine any finding will have to have a strong justification of why the penalty is what it is.

I actually read more into that Kent article. I think he wants us punished no matter what, but he's probably come to the realisation that there is not alot to the actual case to justify a real heavy punishment. He's even talked about 'if' Greenberg will punish us.

I think the big advantage we have is Greenberg is the CEO, because he knows how TPAs are actually arranged and I'm betting he knows that all the other clubs know that he knows how TPAs are actually arranged. Greenberg doesn't only know where the bodies are buried, he also knows where the shovels have been hidden.
 
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eloquentEEL

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If Kent is on such a crusade and believes other clubs are cheating the cap, why isn't he making any attempt to dig up some evidence on any club apart from Parra?
 
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