Eels seeking permission to cheat salary cap...

[East Coast Tiger]

So why is that then?

 

[Ladmate]

If a player wants to play for less let him. This value system is stupid.

 

[boxhead]

So why is that then?

Isn't it obvious? If you were looking for a marketing manager or an executive of development, would you really prioritize former players or those who are actually qualified for the role?

Schubert has overseen two systematic successful attempts at cheating the salary cap, and the current Folau situation is a farce - it could have all been avoided if he didn't pipe in with what he thinks Folau should be paid.

If the former player actually has good credentials, then yes, why not? But at the expense of an individual with a much better resume?

Schubert's record is even worse given the inconsistency with how he has handled different situations.

 

[Someone]

So highest bidder wins from now on? Smith/Cronk/Slater havent ever taken paycuts to stay together because they wanted to play together? does anyone think they would be getting paid their 'true value'?

what the f**k is so different for us?

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Isn't it obvious? If you were looking for a marketing manager or an executive of development, would you really prioritize former players or those who are actually qualified for the role?

Schubert has overseen two systematic successful attempts at cheating the salary cap, and the current Folau situation is a farce - it could have all been avoided if he didn't pipe in with what he thinks Folau should be paid.

If the former player actually has good credentials, then yes, why not? But at the expense of an individual with a much better resume?

Schubert's record is even worse given the inconsistency with how he has handled different situations.

That may be an issue with Schubert but doesn't mean you should ban all former players from such roles. You know a fellow called J. Grant played for Australia once upon a time. Although now you seem to be suggesting that former players can actually get a job in the game if they have "good credentials". Well, good credentials miught actually include knowing something about the game.

 

[boxhead]

I'm curious, if we have to pay "market value" for Israel Folau, does every club have to do the same for all of their players?

If not, why is it just Folau and 'star' players? How do they determine who is a 'star' player, and how do they determine their value?

If true, seriously, how can the top teams be under the cap given the rosters they have?

Hence, this 'market value' thing is ridiculous.

 

[boxhead]

That may be an issue with Schubert but doesn't mean you should ban all former players from such roles. You know a fellow called J. Grant played for Australia once upon a time. Although now you seem to be suggesting that former players can actually get a job in the game if they have "good credentials". Well, good credentials miught actually include knowing something about the game.

In what part of the post did I say all former players don't deserve a role? I merely said that when ex-players with very little experience in management roles are elected over those with much better credentials, it really is no surprise why the NRL is seen by many as a poorly run sport.

Not only that, but your last point makes me laugh. So you think someone who "knows the game" is as qualified as someone who can actually run a business? Please explain. That seems to be what you are inferring.

 

[BunniesMan]

Thanks Eels for being incompetent cap managers. You talked him into coming back to the NRL but word is he's going to be a Rabbitoh:

THE NRL will block a radical Parramatta attempt to sign Israel Folau by breaking the club's salary cap next season and South Sydney could be waiting to pounce.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...under-salary-cap/story-e6frexnr-1226524509085

Seriously. How the f**k can teh Eels be anywhere near the cap?

They don't have 13 NRL standard players.

Serves them right for letting arse clowns like Osborne near the joint. Poore, Hindmarsh & Burt are all gone from last year and they are still at the cap.

What.

The.

Fugg????????????????????????????????

Huge chunks of Hindmarsh and Burt wouldn't have been counted as part of the cap because they were one club players.

As for their cap problems.

Sandow and Hopoate are on way way way way overs.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

In what part of the post did I say all former players don't deserve a role? QUOTE]

I think ex-players should not be placed in high positions.

Right here.

 

[Someone]

Thanks Eels for being incompetent cap managers. You talked him into coming back to the NRL but word is he's going to be a Rabbitoh:



http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...under-salary-cap/story-e6frexnr-1226524509085


Huge chunks of Hindmarsh and Burt wouldn't have been counted as part of the cap because they were one club players.

As for their cap problems.

Sandow and Hopoate are on way way way way overs.

bahahaha, if Souths gets Izzy that'll do me.

This game is becoming an absolute joke.

 

[BranVan3000]

bahahaha, if Souths gets Izzy that'll do me.

This game is becoming an absolute joke.

Why would it be a joke? Cause your management has locked your cap up with shitty players?:lol:

 

[BranVan3000]

I'm curious, if we have to pay "market value" for Israel Folau, does every club have to do the same for all of their players?

If not, why is it just Folau and 'star' players? How do they determine who is a 'star' player, and how do they determine their value?

If true, seriously, how can the top teams be under the cap given the rosters they have?

Hence, this 'market value' thing is ridiculous.

It is ridiculous and inconsistent. Rabbitohs faced the same thing with Inglis, even though no mention of notional value had occurred while he was on his way to the Broncos

The fact it all comes down to the discretion of Schubert is ridiculous. I can't believe he wasn't one of the first people sacked under the new management

 

[bileduct]

The smh have him earning less than $400k with the Broncos:

"That said, Schubert's refusal to lower his valuation of Folau has perplexed many at the Eels, and some outside the club. When Folau left the game at the end of 2010, as a Test and Origin star, he was not being paid $400,000 by the Broncos. Yet after two years out of the game, and more of an unknown than he was when he left, he has been valued alongside some of the star players in the game."

As it says, how can a guy 2 years out of the game be valued more than he was then? Ridiculous imo

It seems that the SMH reporting of Folau's contract at the Broncos isn't in alignment with what was reported at the time.

The Daily Telegraph and ABC articles from the time put Folau's Brisbane contract to be worth around $500K a season.

 

[Canard]

It is ridiculous and inconsistent. Rabbitohs faced the same thing with Inglis, even though no mention of notional value had occurred while he was on his way to the Broncos

The fact it all comes down to the discretion of Schubert is ridiculous. I can't believe he wasn't one of the first people sacked under the new management

Is its established that its just at "one guy's discretion" or is that just speculation? Serious question?

It is ridiculous and inconsistent. Rabbitohs faced the same thing with Inglis, even though no mention of notional value had occurred while he was on his way to the Broncos

Id be pretty upset if I was a Rabbits fan and the Eels got a free pass with this after you guys had to go through due process to sign GI.

 

[dogslife]

Look at the players Brisbane had to get rid of to accommodate Folau. Have to laugh at people saying Folau isn't worth as much now because he's smaller. The bloke is a professional athlete and a freak of nature at that, how long do you honestly think it would take for him to put his size back on

 

[Ronnie Dobbs]

why would it be a joke? Cause your management has locked your cap up with shitty players?:lol:

booooooooooooooooom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BranVan3000]

Is its established that its just at "one guy's discretion" or is that just speculation? Serious question?



Id be pretty upset if I was a Rabbits fan and the Eels got a free pass with this after you guys had to go through due process to sign GI.

He is the salary cap auditor. It all goes through him. One person so as to keep it independent - supposedly. Except he has links with the Roosters club so I don't see how he is an independent at all. Then there is the fact that he wouldn't be able to sniff out a salary cap breach until somebody else puts it right under his nose.

Notional value completely disappeared as a concept since the Inglis saga till now. It seems like something he can just conveniently bring up for the teams outside Schuberts personal circle. Like Rabbitohs, Eels happen to be on that list.

That said, I think the concept itself has merit. It's the fact that he can pick and choose when to use it that is ridiculous. The salary cap auditor makes the referees look as consistent as concrete

 

[Someone]

i guess some people just want to watch other clubs burn. that's fine by me.

its a stupid idea and yes parra management in the past, and possibly the present is a joke. so keep having your stabs branvan3000. Its frighteningly original.

every club has been in the pits.

 

[Parra Pride]

There's a difference between Folau and Inglis though, one of them hasn't played in two years.

 

[bileduct]

There's a difference between Folau and Inglis though, one of them hasn't played in two years.

So should the Raiders be entitled to go over the cap by a few hundred thousand because Terry Campese has hardly played a game in the last two years?