Eels Team vs Bulldogs - Round 9.

[Poupou Escobar]

he made it.

Then the point he made is pointless.

You stick a halfback on the bench for a couple of reasons:

1. He is versatile
2. He isn't versatile but the starting halfback is
3. To keep him out of the early exchanges

How common this ploy is is irrelevant. There are very few halfbacks as defensively poor as Chris Sandow, so it can be a good move to use him differently to most halfbacks.

So while he's coming back from a week off and his confidence might be shaky, he can come off the bench like a rookie (whose confidence might also be shaky).

I reckon it could be a good move this week. Don't be so quick to put shit on every decision the coach makes. He knows his players better than you do.

Why don't you criticise Hasler for playing that nuffy Kris Keating at halfback again? They've lost their last three matches in a row with him there.

 

[True EEL]

Then the point he made is pointless.

You stick a halfback on the bench for a couple of reasons:

1. He is versatile
2. He isn't versatile but the starting halfback is
3. To keep him out of the early exchanges

How common this ploy is is irrelevant. There are very few halfbacks as defensively poor as Chris Sandow, so it can be a good move to use him differently to most halfbacks.

So while he's coming back from a week off and his confidence might be shaky, he can come off the bench like a rookie (whose confidence might also be shaky).

I reckon it could be a good move this week. Don't be so quick to put shit on every decision the coach makes. He knows his players better than you do.

Why don't you criticise Hasler for playing that nuffy Kris Keating at halfback again? They've lost their last three matches in a row with him there.

PP,

I agree with your logic on this one (well, mainly), but I don't think Sandow will play from the bench - or if he does, it won't be a regular gig. I agree with Parra Fan above - in that McGuire may well get a chance at 5/8, Sandow at half and Roberts may get a spell on the bench....just reading between the lines. Roberts does have value as a utility-style player.

RE: Kris Keating, geez, you're still up him for the rent and he plays for the Dogs - whom we play this week remember, no need to shake their tree. Keating has been OK in recent weeks and the Dogs haven't been far off winning, especially against Manly. they gave that game away.

 

[bartman]

Maybe Kearney has realised with the way we've been going this year, that he can't afford too many poor defenders on the field at once. With the way Roberts defended last week, that would mean that he can't afford to have Roberts and Sandow on the field at the same time?

Hence Sandow from the bench, who can come on and give Roberts a break, and when Roberts comes back on, someone like Maitua can have a rest (with Maguire staying on and defending for 80mins). SK seemed wrapped in Casey's efforts according to some recent quotes, and fair enough too. But the SK gameplan/structure isn't working, and he has to try some different ways to get it all to hold together for 80mins.

Morgan is the right guy to bring up if Blair is injured, and good to see Burt retain his position as well.

Seems like Hindy will again be put in the prop rotation though, which seems a bit pointless when we also go in with three props on the bench? Just play Moimoi as a prop (and run him a bit wide if the flow of the game calls for it), and let Hindy play his usual game and defend as a back rower for his 60+mins (instead of just 40 as a prop). Kearney definitely has struggled getting his use of the interchange right as a head coach.

 

[True EEL]

^^ yep SK has horrid bench rotations at times. i've said it before and will say it again. SK must adapt or perish.

It really did appear as if the players said screw this and just threw the ball around and played real football at the end of that game. when was the last time we scored 30 points? let alone 30 points in 14 mins....?! SK must learn from that and let them play attacking football - adapt or perish.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You might see Allgood to start with Ryan in the backrow, Paulo/Maitua to the bench, and Sandow to start with McGuire in the halves, Roberts to the bench.

Roberts might well start from the bench (though I doubt it) but Allgood is no edge forward.

Starting props will be out of:

Mannah
Allgood
Poore
Hindmarsh

with the other two on the bench. Lock will be Paulo (with McGuire giving him a rest) and edge forwards will be Maitua, Ryan and Moimoi. Guys will only play in different positions in the event of injury.

 

[mickdo]

Sandow off the bench. Another thing for the masses to whinge about...

 

[bartman]

^^^@Poupou's post: That's because we're too structured, and hence too predictable for the opposition. SK should mix it up a little, not just week to week, but maybe even during a game!

There's a concept, a coach who reacts to the conditions of the day and the flow of the match, and has the skill to make (good) decisions on the run.

 

[bartman]

Sandow off the bench. Another thing for the masses to whinge about...

So you're now classing yourself as a minority MD, in your continuing blind support of the work experience coach?

 

[True EEL]

^^^@poupou's post: That's because we're too structured, and hence too predictable for the opposition. Sk should mix it up a little, not just week to week, but maybe even during a game!

There's a concept, a coach who reacts to the conditions of the day and the flow of the match, and has the skill to make (good) decisions on the run.

This.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

do u think sk will put kapow on or leave him sitting there all game

No, the master psychologist will do a Billy Rogers.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

The reason for that is because in attack you can play to your strengths and play away from your weaknesses. In defence that decision is mostly out of your hands - it's the opposition that decides.

Then we better make sure the opposition is not given the ball for 80 minutes.
Anything less than that and we are in serious trouble. :crazy:

 

[True EEL]

Geez, PP, the opposition doesn't decide your fate whilst you are defending - what rubbish!!! In defence, your team's defensive commitment and attitude decides your own fate....

 

[Casper The Ghost]

Then the point he made is pointless.

You stick a halfback on the bench for a couple of reasons:

1. He is versatile
2. He isn't versatile but the starting halfback is
3. To keep him out of the early exchanges

How common this ploy is is irrelevant. There are very few halfbacks as defensively poor as Chris Sandow, so it can be a good move to use him differently to most halfbacks.

So while he's coming back from a week off and his confidence might be shaky, he can come off the bench like a rookie (whose confidence might also be shaky).

I reckon it could be a good move this week. Don't be so quick to put shit on every decision the coach makes. He knows his players better than you do.

Why don't you criticise Hasler for playing that nuffy Kris Keating at halfback again? They've lost their last three matches in a row with him there.

:shock::crazy::sarcasm:

 

[Poupou Escobar]

PP,

I agree with your logic on this one (well, mainly), but I don't think Sandow will play from the bench - or if he does, it won't be a regular gig.

I don't think it will happen every week either but I reckon it will this week.

I agree with Parra Fan above - in that McGuire may well get a chance at 5/8, Sandow at half and Roberts may get a spell on the bench....just reading between the lines. Roberts does have value as a utility-style player.

Roberts has no value as a utility player - he is a playmaker and left-footed kicker who is best playing as a half on the left hand side of the field.

He is a good kicker and one of the most dangerous linebreaking halves in the NRL, not to mention his six linebreak assists - best in the team.

He has one bad game and you want to throw him under a bus because you're obsessed with Hayne at 6.

Hayne is back doing what he does best at fullback. He has seven linebreaks - one less than the highest (there are five guys with eight this year) - yet he's has only played four and a bit games.

He only made about five linebreaks all last year, including half a season in the 6 jersey.

RE: Kris Keating, geez, you're still up him for the rent and he plays for the Dogs - whom we play this week remember, no need to shake their tree. Keating has been OK in recent weeks and the Dogs haven't been far off winning, especially against Manly. they gave that game away.

Actually I rate Kris Keating. I just find it funny that so many people said "He's not a halfback, he's a running five-eighth!!!" :crazy: or words to that effect, when the fact is a player with a good running game is always a safer option than one without.

If in doubt, run the ball. That's what Sandow needs to do. It's better to be a hog with purpose than be hesitant and look to pass every time. And when a halfback is looking to run, it opens things up for his supports.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Geez, PP, the opposition doesn't decide your fate whilst you are defending - what rubbish!!! In defence, your team's defensive commitment and attitude decides your own fate....

The opposition decides where the ball goes. Because they're the ones with the ball, y'know?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Sandow off the bench. Another thing for the masses to whinge about...

This.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Seems like Hindy will again be put in the prop rotation though, which seems a bit pointless when we also go in with three props on the bench?

We don't have three props on the bench - Fui is being used as an edge forward ever since the Manly game.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

^^^@Poupou's post: That's because we're too structured, and hence too predictable for the opposition. SK should mix it up a little, not just week to week, but maybe even during a game!

And if he did that then nobodies like you would be saying "Kearney needs to stop chopping and changing and let some combinations form!!!!" :crazy:

There's a concept, a coach who reacts to the conditions of the day and the flow of the match, and has the skill to make (good) decisions on the run.

The fact is he's the coach and you're a nuffy. Hmm, I wonder which one of you is likely to know more about tacics? :-k

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Yes Kearneys record speaks for itself.

 

[bartman]

We don't have three props on the bench - Fui is being used as an edge forward ever since the Manly game.

Yeah, my point was that things are too structured, and Fuifui should just be used/count as a normal prop, and then choose to run at the edge if the conditions of the game suit it at the time.

And if he did that then nobodies like you would be saying "Kearney needs to stop chopping and changing and let some combinations form!!!!" :crazy:

You don't seem to understand the point you've quoted... Mixing up what we offer in attack (rather than the rigid predictable and unsuccessful structure) during a game is not chopping and changing... it's simply a standard issue coaching skill if you want your team to win some games.

The fact is he's the coach and you're a nuffy. Hmm, I wonder which one of you is likely to know more about tacics? :-k

Hmm, the likely fact is that he'll have coached himself out of a job... while both you and I will still be on here typing about our views on team tactics. In the real world, just because someone holds a position of authority doesn't automatically mean they are performing it adequately, or have the skills to perform it adequately in the future.