England v New Zealand ** news & injury thread **

[deluded pom?]

like theres not half a dozen kiwis that have switched lol

So two wrongs make a right in 'yedland do they?

 

[roughyedspud]

Ive stopped whinging about..its pointless

 

[CC_Roosters]

Anyone had any news on broadcasting in australia for the series? Getting very close now and havent even heard a rumour. Blake solly told me a month ago the process was underway but god they love a last minute decision for this sort of thing.

Would prefer fox sports btw

 

[southwalesrabbitoh]

England squad :-

Fullbacks - S Tomkins, Z Hardaker
Wings - R Hall, J McGillvary, J Burgess
Centres - K Watkins, L Cudjoe
Halfbacks - G Williams, G Widdop, L Gale, M Smith
Front-rowers - M Cooper, T Burgess, C Hill, J Graham
No.9s - J Roby, J Hodgson
Back-rowers - J Bateman, L Farrell, S O'Loughlin, B Ferres, B Currie, Ben Westwood, Elliott Whitehead

My team :-

Fullback - Z Hardaker
Wings - J McGillvary, R Hall
Centres - K Watkins, L Cudjoe
Halfbacks - G Widdop, M Smith
Front-row forwards - J Graham, C Hill
No.9 - J Roby
Back-row forwards - J Bateman, E Whitehead, S O'Lochlin

Interchange - J Hodgson, T Burgess, M Cooper, B Ferres

 

[Sinman]

Anyone had any news on broadcasting in australia for the series? Getting very close now and havent even heard a rumour. Blake solly told me a month ago the process was underway but god they love a last minute decision for this sort of thing.

Would prefer fox sports btw

Yeah I've been looking out for it.. asked in a couple of places.. Nothing.. fox doesn't seem to be covering the NZ vs Leeds game.. It's sad that it is so undervalued.. I mean there is table tennis on Fox but nothing has yet been said about covering world class rugby league.. It's a bit small minded!!

 

[Bovrick]

Its says im the link...george,walmsley & joel tomkins

My bad, I meant beyond what's listed. There's no prop depth at all, you'd think there had to be some guys behind Burgess and Walmsley who'd deserve a call rather than stacking the squad with light back rowers. You've got Farrell, Bateman (probably as a centre) and Currie in there who'll be monstered as a combination. And it isn't like Whitehead, Ferres or O'Loughlin are going to be able to cover prop well, and Westwood is past it.

Surely guys like Watts, Clubb, Amor...someone?

Then again the kiwis didn't pick any halves, so there's a sense of evening up there.

 

[Bobby DIGital]

Looking like a development tour with 3 of our top 5 players out.

Hopefully Taupau steps up. I can see our forwards getting us plenty of opportunities, what the halves can do with it remains to be seen.

 

[roughyedspud]

We have 6 out and 7 new caps...are we a development team too??

 

[The Voice of Reason!]

No. England is more of an Emerging Nation.

 

[roughyedspud]

Yet you struggle to beat us,infact you've beaten us once in england in 10 years...how rubbish is that!

 

[Bobby DIGital]

Quite rubbish, but the one win was the last game. So we'll see what happens.

 

[Bobby DIGital]

Actually, when was the last time you beat us in NZ or outside of England for that matter?

 

[The Voice of Reason!]

Here's Australia playing a minnow to develop international league:

2008 Nov 2nd Australia W 52 - 4 England 22 - 4 Melbourne 36,297 View
2009 Oct 31st Australia W 26 - 16 England 26 - 0 Wigan 23,122 View
2009 Nov 14th Australia W 46 - 16 England 14 - 10 Leeds 31,042 View
2010 Oct 31st Australia W 34 - 14 England 26 - 8 Melbourne 18,894 View
2011 Nov 5th Australia W 36 - 20 England 12 - 8 London 42,344 View
2011 Nov 19th Australia W 30 - 8 England 8 - 6 Leeds 34,147 View
2013 Oct 26th Australia W 28 - 20 England 18 - 10 Cardiff 45,052 View
2014 Nov 2nd Australia W 16 - 12 England 4 - 12 Melbourne 20,585 View

And here's the Kiwi's doing some charity work:

2008 Nov 8th New Zealand W 36 - 24 England 14 - 24 Newcastle 15,145 View
2008 Nov 15th New Zealand W 32 - 22 England 16 - 10 Brisbane 26,659 View
2009 Nov 7th New Zealand L 12 - 20 England 6 - 18 Huddersfield 19,390 View
2010 Oct 23rd New Zealand W 24 - 10 England 12 - 0 Wellington 20,681 View
2011 Nov 12th New Zealand L 6 - 28 England 0 - 8 Hull 23,447 View
2013 Nov 23rd New Zealand W 20 - 18 England 8 - 8 London 67,545 View
2014 Nov 8th New Zealand W 16 - 14 England 12 - 8 Dunedin 15,836 View

Good to see the emerging nation get up a couple of times...

 

[roughyedspud]

Actually, when was the last time you beat us in NZ or outside of England for that matter?

True...that just highlights what i keep saying...we a favourites on home soil...you are favourite down under...

The sooner you accept that england & NZ games are 50/50 they easier it'll be to accept the whooping you lot are gonna get lol

Stats from 2002..

Played 18

GB/eng 9 wins

NZ 8 wins

Draws 1


Oh look nigh on 50/50...If we go to the 2000 RLWC it is acutally 9 wins each

Ps 5 of the kiwi wins came down under

 

[Bobby DIGital]

I actually really want to know when the last time England/GB beat us outside of GB.

I'm thinking it may be 1992. When I had a kiwis poster signed by Hugh McGahan lol.

 

[Bobby DIGital]

yep 92

Sunday, 19 July​

New Zealand

16 - 19

Great Britain Tries:
Gary Freeman
Sean Hoppe, Brent Todd
Goals:
Matthew Ridge (2) [3] Tries:
Denis Betts
Lee Jackson, Martin Offiah
Goals:
Paul Eastwood (3)
Field Goal
Garry Schofield Carlaw Park, Auckland
Attendance: 10,233
Referee/s: Bill Harrigan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Great_Britain_Lions_tour_of_Australasia

Chariots scored that day. Nice.

 

[roughyedspud]

think we've only played in NZ 7-8 times since then??

 

[roughyedspud]

Im 99% sure thats gonna change though cos seeds have been planted in various heads,that matter,that'll see us coming to NZ for the "anzac" test instead of australia....we'll have have change the name though

 

[miguel de cervantes]

Im 99% sure thats gonna change though cos seeds have been planted in various heads,that matter,that'll see us coming to NZ for the "anzac" test instead of australia....we'll have have change the name though

If England slaughter the kiwis it will be a perfectly apt name.

 

[kiwileaguefan]

You have to think all the pressure is on England for this series.....If they don't beat NZ, then it really shows how far behind England are....especially with the Kiwis missing their halves.

I just cant believe England aren't down these ways playing more games for preparation for the RLWC. Especially considering next years Four Nations is in the UK.