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England v New Zealand ** news & injury thread **

miguel de cervantes

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I've been thinking...

I don't think it can be understated the importance of playing national team games

(a) in the biggest city (in this case London, but could be Paris, Auckland, Sydney)
(b) on live FTA telly.

Combined with good sporting contests, these two things alone should almost guarantee further success down the line. Notice this is what union almost systematically does (Twickenham, Stade de Frace, Stadio Olimpico, Millenium, Murrayfield etc.).

(1) Maximise public and media exposure to the game with FTA.
(2) Maximise neutrals' implication (most are likely to take an interest if they stumble on it)
(3) Maximise the chance of a good crowd by playing within travel distance of the largest (neutral) population.

The feedback loop is complete and optimal. These games then sell themselves and provide tremendous advertisements of the sport - the largest possible footprint within a nation.

It's amazing to think this hasn't been the case in England for how many years? Ever?

This game is quite a milestone for England, and the WC semi-final can be thanked for that. They should take at least one game a year to Olympic Stadium. The only problem is they crually lack valid opposition.
 
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adamkungl

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They never turned up because the Broncos are/were a f**king joke. And because London is a very big place and traveling to a nondescript league match every week against the likes of Widnes and Castleford is much different to traveling to a one-off international match at the Olympic Stadium.

Also I have no idea what this obsession with 'expats in London' is, it's total nonsense and TBH one of the biggest reasons that the Broncos are such a failure.

What do you think could improve the situation in London?

Would you put a top grade team in or around London? And if so what strategy do you think would work
 

roughyedspud

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Someone on TRL has posted updated ticket sales,seems abit vague but here they are

Hull - only 3000-4000 tickets left (capacity 25k)

London - less than 15,000 tickets left (capacity 54k)


I think wigans still around 15k ,i don't think we'll see a surge in ticket sales till the series starts..
 
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Burns

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Over 40,000 would be a great result for London. If first game is a classic and England win it should be able to sell out.
 

AllThingsPII

Juniors
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What do you think could improve the situation in London?

Would you put a top grade team in or around London? And if so what strategy do you think would work

Firstly they need to have enough grass-roots players coming through the junior/amateur systems down there to be able to feed the team with good local talent continually. Secondly a few good signings to shore up that local talent. Then they would really need to market the team properly, in what is a football/rugby union strong area. In the past they have had teams made up of mainly australian/northern journeymen, that have achieved mainly nothing, and given the local people nothing to get excited about.

The most worrying thing for me is that the talent they have managed to develop get poached by northern clubs e.g. Tony Clubb, Sarginson, Louis -M- Scarsbrick. This trend needs to be addressed if they have any hope of maintaining a decent SL team, unless of course they themselves can attract the same calibre of player in the opposite direction.
 

roughyedspud

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They flew to catalan cos they had a agreement to train there...

seems daft to me to go from leeds to manchester to perpignan to barcalona for a day to perpignan back to manchester or leeds/bradford then on to hull for the first test all in 6 days.....more traveling than training...all the while england are holed up at the world class st georges park facility preparing.....thats why england are gonna win by 20+
 

Burns

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Objectively, for us non English/New Zealanders, who do we want to win? Is an English win good for the game, or is a New Zealand victory a statement they are number one?
 

ByRd

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What are the kick off times for the series (Sydney time) and is it on euro sport??
 

roughyedspud

Coach
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yes eurosport...and kick off times are all over the place


1st test 5:00pm GMT - 4:00am sydney - 6:00am auckland

2ns test 2:30pm GMT -1:30am sydney - 3:30am auckland

3rd test 1:00 GMT - 00:00am sydney - 2:00am auckland

its a mess and explains why foxtel did'nt want it..

all the tests should have been 8pm kicks off..so it's breakfast viewing down under
 

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