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Expansion Team Names

jim_57

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I think playing on the traditional suburban name could work for them more than it does in Sydney. 1) because they would be one of only two clubs in our city 2) beacuse they are the biggest brand in the QRL and are a traditional footy club that would appeal to many as the offset to the corporate Broncos and they would heal some wounds from the old BRL that the Broncos entering the NSW Cup destroyed.

Redcliffe would be the people's team here for sure. I for one would support them and I live nowhere near Redcliffe or have any connection to the place.

I'm not convinced personally, Redcliffe alone is just a small part of what their target area should be I just don't see the NRL giving them a team without them broadening their appeal a little more. I like the idea of using an established brand like Dolphins and I know it's only a name but I feel they limit their appeal if they go with just Redcliffe as I would the western bid if they went with Ipswich.
 

The Great Dane

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I know quite a few people from Brisbane who wouldn't be caught dead wearing a Dolphins jersey whether or not they are the Redcliffe, North Brisbane, Morton Bay, or whatever else Dolphins, the connection to the Redcliffe Dolphins alone will be enough to turn them off.

I mean sure that's just an anecdote, but then I think about how many people (including myself) that would have just outright refused to support the Raiders if the the Queanbeyan Blues weren't forced to totally re-brand to the Raiders by the NSWRL, and then I look at the problems that the Vikings have attracting fans in the NRC cause such a huge amount of people refuse to support the Tuggeranong Vikings even if they change their name to the Canberra Vikings and it's undeniable that you start to see a pattern forming...

Realistically if you want any new Brisbane club in the NRL to appeal to a broad market in Brisbane then they can't be directly connected to a one of the BRL/QRL teams cause that BRL/QRL brand will carry baggage with it that will taint it for at least a couple of generations, and realistically the NRL doesn't want that in a new club in Brisbane.

The best route for any new Brisbane club in the NRL to go would be for them either to pull a WSW and resurrect a long dead brand that has that history but is relatively unassuming in a historical sense (what brand that would be in the BRL/QRL context I don't really know, maybe a club like the Logan Scorpions?), or more realistically a totally new brand.

That may disappoint some people but realistically it's the best route to go to give the club the best start possible.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Western Brisbane Hornets (keeping with the Jets theme.)

I'm interested to hear any alternative location names as well as mascot names here. For the likes of Western Corridor, Dolphins and NZ2 bids finding a name that encompasses all their target areas is a bit tricky without resorting to generic shit like "Southern Orcas" or "Western Jets".

"Southern Orcas" is hardly generic if the team is representing the southern regions of NZ as the Orca is a recognisable local animal especially in the Cook Strait region, and Id assume the team would be based at least 50% out of Wellington.
 

Stallion

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I know quite a few people from Brisbane who wouldn't be caught dead wearing a Dolphins jersey whether or not they are the Redcliffe, North Brisbane, Morton Bay, or whatever else Dolphins, the connection to the Redcliffe Dolphins alone will be enough to turn them off.

I mean sure that's just an anecdote, but then I think about how many people (including myself) that would have just outright refused to support the Raiders if the the Queanbeyan Blues weren't forced to totally re-brand to the Raiders by the NSWRL, and then I look at the problems that the Vikings have attracting fans in the NRC cause such a huge amount of people refuse to support the Tuggeranong Vikings even if they change their name to the Canberra Vikings and it's undeniable that you start to see a pattern forming...

Realistically if you want any new Brisbane club in the NRL to appeal to a broad market in Brisbane then they can't be directly connected to a one of the BRL/QRL teams cause that BRL/QRL brand will carry baggage with it that will taint it for at least a couple of generations, and realistically the NRL doesn't want that in a new club in Brisbane.

The best route for any new Brisbane club in the NRL to go would be for them either to pull a WSW and resurrect a long dead brand that has that history but is relatively unassuming in a historical sense (what brand that would be in the BRL/QRL context I don't really know, maybe a club like the Logan Scorpions?), or more realistically a totally new brand.

That may disappoint some people but realistically it's the best route to go to give the club the best start possible.

Brisbane Spartans?
 

The Great Dane

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I think some alliteration links are a good fit: West Melbourne Wombats (W), Adelaide Dingoes (D) etc. For instance: Brisbane Broncos works due to alliteration.
Alliteration just sounds good to the ear it doesn't create a link between a name and a region.

For example Canberra Capybaras may be an alliteration but it still makes no god damn sense why a team based in Canberra is called the capybaras, likewise calling a team the Adelaide Dingoes is (sort of) an alliteration, but that alliteration doesn't create a specific connection between Adelaide and dingoes.

But you know that teams have been very successful without any connection between the name and the region, so there's no reason why Adelaide Dingoes couldn't work, there's just a higher risk of it coming off as a plastic brand then other name with links to Adelaide would have.
 

The Great Dane

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Just echoing your idea. Something new. Could be an attractive enough theme? Plenty of room for marketing ideas. Pretty neutral? Working out colours would be another thing as well!

Well the colours would have to be red, bronze, and white/black wouldn't they... Otherwise they'd be some weird looking Spartans.

But after the schmozzle that is the Titans I don't think we really want to try another Greek themed club in South East Queensland!

Nah pass on the Spartans and go for something more recognisable in Brisbane's day to day existence.
 

Stallion

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Alliteration just sounds good to the ear it doesn't create a link between a name and a region.

For example Canberra Capybaras may be an alliteration but it still makes no god damn sense why a team based in Canberra is called the capybaras, likewise calling a team the Adelaide Dingoes is (sort of) an alliteration, but that alliteration doesn't create a specific connection between Adelaide and dingoes.

But you know that teams have been very successful without any connection between the name and the region, so there's no reason why Adelaide Dingoes couldn't work, there's just a higher risk of it coming off as a plastic brand then other name with links to Adelaide would have.

Think the Australian aspect is what has merit in this naming? Don't think their are enough native animals in our club names as it is.
 

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Well the colours would have to be red, bronze, and white/black wouldn't they... Otherwise they'd be some weird looking Spartans.

But after the schmozzle that is the Titans I don't think we really want to try another Greek themed club in South East Queensland!

Nah pass on the Spartans and go for something more recognisable in Brisbane's day to day existence.

Just throwing ideas out there. Brisbane Blizzards? Brisbane Battlers?
And the Titans was inspired by the "Remember the Titans " movie about American football. Doubt many people would know about the Greek connection.
 
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Diesel

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Western Brisbane Hornets (keeping with the Jets theme.)

I'm interested to hear any alternative location names as well as mascot names here. For the likes of Western Corridor, Dolphins and NZ2 bids finding a name that encompasses all their target areas is a bit tricky without resorting to generic shit like "Southern Orcas" or "Western Jets".
Western Corridor were talking about using Jagra/Jaegra or something similar as it’s the name of the local tribe in the area
 

jim_57

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"Southern Orcas" is hardly generic if the team is representing the southern regions of NZ as the Orca is a recognisable local animal especially in the Cook Strait region, and Id assume the team would be based at least 50% out of Wellington.

Just "Southern" though is the kind of name I think we should avoid. Orcas would be a great name but something better than a very generic location name like "Southern".

South New Zealand Orcas maybe? Bit of a mouthful but no worse than some we already have.

Southern could literally be a team from anywhere that is south of anywhere.
 

The Great Dane

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Think the Australian aspect is what has merit in this naming? Don't think their are enough native animals in our club names as it is.

Sure there's the Australian aspect, but we aren't talking about possible names for national teams we're talking about possible names for specific parts of Australia, and taking Adelaide as the example again when you think about Adelaide Dingoes aren't what come to mind are they, there're undoubtedly Dingoes in Adelaide (or rather around it) but Adelaide isn't know for it's Dingoes is it, so there's no direct connection between Adelaide and Dingoes any more then there's a connect between Canberra, Newcastle, or Sydney and Dingoes.

When I think about fauna that is particularly connected to Adelaide/South Australia I think about hairy-nosed wombats, I think fur seals and sea lions, I think the piping shrike, etc, I don't think Dingoes, do you get what I mean?

Actually I quite like seals or sea lions as a name, I wouldn't necessarily give it to Adelaide as such, but it could work for them and it's pretty unique.
 

The Great Dane

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Just throwing ideas out there. Brisbane Blizzards? Brisbane Battlers?

Brisbane Blizzards, you're trolling right!

What about Brisbane Bandits with a Bikie theme?

And the Titans was inspired by the "Remember the Titans " movie about American football. Doubt many people would know about the Greek connection.

Except that they literally have a pseudo Hoplite as their logo and have had other undercurrents of Greek mythology in their branding in the past...
 

Stallion

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Sure there's the Australian aspect, but we aren't talking about possible names for national teams we're talking about possible names for specific parts of Australia, and taking Adelaide as the example again when you think about Adelaide Dingoes aren't what come to mind are they, there're undoubtedly Dingoes in Adelaide (or rather around it) but Adelaide isn't know for it's Dingoes is it, so there's no direct connection between Adelaide and Dingoes any more then there's a connect between Canberra, Newcastle, or Sydney and Dingoes.

When I think about fauna that is particularly connected to Adelaide/South Australia I think about hairy-nosed wombats, I think fur seals and sea lions, I think the piping shrike, etc, I don't think Dingoes, do you get what I mean?

Actually I quite like seals or sea lions as a name, I wouldn't necessarily give it to Adelaide as such, but it could work for them and it's pretty unique.

I like Adelaide Wombats! When using a name, it's important to make sure it can be used easily in a crowd chant One of the tips would be two syllable names which are easier in a popular crowd chant at the game . For instance popular chants at current clubs are : Bulldogs, Manly, Parra, St George, Titans, Roosters, Melbourne, Tigers, Penrith or Panthers, Broncos, Cowboys, Raiders etc. You will note it's more difficult for fan chants for clubs like Newcastle Knights, Cronulla Sutherland Sharks.(unless they modify the name eg:Sharkies etc) Easier if the name is on a platter as far as a chant is concerned. Just another point worth considering in my opinion.
 

Stallion

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Brisbane Blizzards, you're trolling right!

What about Brisbane Bandits with a Bikie theme?



Except that they literally have a pseudo Hoplite as their logo and have had other undercurrents of Greek mythology in their branding in the past...

? You would be surprised how many people are unaware of this! But continue on with your critical stance Doesn't concern me !
 

RunRabbitRun69

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A Pacific Islands team based out of Auckland called the, "South Pacific Chiefs".

I actually really like the, " West Coast Pirates" moniker too
 

MrE_Assassin

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What about Brisbane Bandits with a Bikie theme?
You gotta be trolling right? You know the Brisbane Bandits are an Australian Baseball team right? In fact they’re quite successful. They’ve won the title the last 4 years.

West Brisbane Outlaws would be pretty cool though. Or Miners?
 

The Great Dane

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You gotta be trolling right? You know the Brisbane Bandits are an Australian Baseball team right? In fact they’re quite successful. They’ve won the title the last 4 years.

West Brisbane Outlaws would be pretty cool though. Or Miners?

Frankly I don't think that anybody knows that the Brisbane Bandits are a Baseball team...
 

SpaceMonkey

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A Pacific Islands team based out of Auckland called the, "South Pacific Chiefs".

I actually really like the, " West Coast Pirates" moniker too

There’s already a Cheifs Super Rugby franchise in NZ, just down the road in Hamilton so I think you can safely cross that name off the list.
 

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