Expansion voting.

[Willow]

Western Australia for sure. The Perth Sharks has a nice ring to it.

Room for both Central Qld and Central Coast after that.

 

[BDGS]

You claimed NRL supporters on the CC are only casual fans of teams like Newcastle, etc. Who did you ask in Brisbane to suggest the opposite is true?

From the people I've sp

lol Don't be shy.

You claimed NRL supporters on the CC are only casual fans of teams like Newcastle, etc. Who did you ask in Brisbane to suggest the opposite is true?

That's right, i didn't say anywhere that i spoke to anyone in Brisbane but anybody whose ever been to Brisbane or understands the Rugby League market up there knows there are big groups of supporters that support certain NRL teams apart from the Broncos.

I'd feel very dispassionate about receiving a second rate failed team if I were a CC resident.

The fact is you are not a CC resident and another fact is you have already stated that no matter what happens you are still going to support nobody other then the Bulldogs, so that has as much weight as a feather.

 

[Perth Red]

Western Australia for sure. The Perth Sharks has a nice ring to it.

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not to me it doesn't!

 

[smithie]

The problem with the 2nd South-East QLD bid is that nobody knows what the name of the team will be - Ipswich, Brisbane, Sth QLD, Western, South Brisbane, West Brisbane, Logan.
Once people know what area the team represents supporters will come.

 

[BDGS]

The name is the least of their worries. imo

 

[dgsfan]

The problem with the 2nd South-East QLD bid is that nobody knows what the name of the team will be - Ipswich, Brisbane, Sth QLD, Western, South Brisbane, West Brisbane, Logan.
Once people know what area the team represents supporters will come.

Great post with reasoning. Something severely lacking from certain posters here.

 

[bobmar28]

It's a realistic goal achievable to any bid team coming from a rugby league heartland. Should be the absolute minimum IMO in how many memberships a club should get. Any lower and it stems from a lack of effort put in by a club. It also shows how much the community embraces the bid/club. If the Broncos can achieve 20,000 some years and Titans/Cowboys 6-7000. Then surely a team from south qld or Ipswich should be able to achieve 5000.

The NRL have stressed the importance of memberships for a few seasons now. Clubs like Souths, Bulldogs and the Dragons lead the way with their brands. They, alongside Broncos and occasionally Roosters/Eels/Tigers market themselves brilliantly. The communities get behind them win/loss/draw. Kids love them and that has materialized into merchandise and membership sales over the last few years.

And they will some day. They haven't even been granted a franchise yet.

How many members do the Roosters have after 100 years?

 

[bobmar28]

How do you know that? did you ask them?

I did ask them and the majority of residents of the Central Coast do support Rugby League and the NRL, who wouldn't? but a lot of them are either without teams or casually support a team. Central Coast residents rarely support another team with high passion, but they are out there like the guy on here that supports the dogs but would welcome the bears as his 2nd side. The majority of Central Coast Residents are waiting to support their own team.

Whereas in Brisbane, there is a high amount of passionate supporter groups for each team that i mentioned.

How do you know that? Did you ask everyone in Brisbane?

 

[bobmar28]

Seeming as though they're population is SO big it would be impossible to ask them all but i did ask quite a few of them and that is a better gauge then your logic of because Brisbane has large supporter bases for Bulldogs, Dragons an Sea Eagles the same must be said for the Central Coast. That logic is insulting to community individuality, but you don't care whatever just change everything to suit your ideology viewpoint.[/Q

That's what you're doing.

 

[bobmar28]

lol Don't be shy.



That's right, i didn't say anywhere that i spoke to anyone in Brisbane but anybody whose ever been to Brisbane or understands the Rugby League market up there knows there are big groups of supporters that support certain NRL teams apart from the Broncos.



The fact is you are not a CC resident and another fact is you have already stated that no matter what happens you are still going to support nobody other then the Bulldogs, so that has as much weight as a feather.

That sounds like wishful thinking to me.

If you're telling me that Queenslanders would not support a fourth QLD team you've got rocks in your head.

 

[_Johnsy]

I find it funny people are advocating the push for Ipswich. it is obvious they are not ready. What do we gain from having a basket case franchise in Ipswich?

If anything it has to be a second team based in Brisbane (but we all know broncs don't want this). The bottom line is there won't be a second team in SE QLD in 2013.

Unfortunately what would be great is different to reality. Personally I think that a second brissy team is a must, but I am happy to wait. The time frame is not as important, other areas are far more advanced with their bids.

The sooner people realise this and accept it the better, or they can delay the dissapointment via biased ignorance if they must.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Double.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

And they will some day. They haven't even been granted a franchise yet.

How many members do the Roosters have after 100 years?

Has the NRL been running for 100years? Has Gallop been CEO for 100years? No they haven't. The NRL have pushed the button on memberships since 98 but it's really only kicked on since Gallops been CEO. So unfortunately you miss the mark yet again. Every other bid sees the importance of memberships. So do the NRL. What makes Jets so special? Memberships before bid submission dictates how well a bid is accepted in the community and how well it's been marketed. You gain nothing and lose more waiting until after bids are submitted by initiating the local public.

 

[Dragon Slayer]

If your looking at which Clubs entering the Competition would be the most strategic and profitable then the Central Coast Bears bid would be on the bottom. Admitting the Central Coast will be like adding another Sydney team.

A Perth team would provide another time slot for T.V and makes sure that Rugby League is not just an Eastern Seaboard competition. Obviously there are many other pro's but they are the two main ones.

Another QLD team. Builds more potential local derbies and more choice of teams to use in Q.L.D T.V. Will also spread the talent more in the state and give local juniors more choices in Clubs to play for up North.

Another New Zealand team. Again more potential time slots for games on T.V. More T.V revenue. Strategically it would give the League stronger exposure in New Zealand and create a local derby in New Zealand which would be massive for ratings and coverage.

 

[_Johnsy]

Unfortunately Dragon Slayer, IMO the only 2 bids that appear to be even close to ready are the CC & Perth.

Every point you make is valid, SE & Central QLD, NZ, are just not ready & I cant see them being ready in 2013. How in the hell are they going to have everything they need (Sponsors, field, training facilities, clubhouse etc etc the list is endless) and be ready to roll in 24months ??

They are yet to even interact & engage with their communities re: NRL bid process.

 

[Dragon Slayer]

Well that's fine.

I don't see a great rush at this stage to admit teams.

There are lots of flaws in the NRL that need to be corrected before Expansion happens.

Obviously an IC being implemented will help correct alot of those by the IC just being formed.

Get an appropriate T.V deal to what Rugby League is properly worth will also help to fix some of the problems.

But please don't let the CCoast Bullies get their way.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

If your looking at which Clubs entering the Competition would be the most strategic and profitable then the Central Coast Bears bid would be on the bottom. Admitting the Central Coast will be like adding another Sydney team.

A Perth team would provide another time slot for T.V and makes sure that Rugby League is not just an Eastern Seaboard competition. Obviously there are many other pro's but they are the two main ones.

Another QLD team. Builds more potential local derbies and more choice of teams to use in Q.L.D T.V. Will also spread the talent more in the state and give local juniors more choices in Clubs to play for up North.

Another New Zealand team. Again more potential time slots for games on T.V. More T.V revenue. Strategically it would give the League stronger exposure in New Zealand and create a local derby in New Zealand which would be massive for ratings and coverage.

Brilliant post and outlines exactly what expansion will be based upon.

Its this draw back that no Bears fan seems to be able to have a solution for.

 

[_Johnsy]

I don't see them as bullies. I see them as a professional organisation doing everything they can to gain admittance.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

I also don't believe that the IC will admit the coast just because they and Perth are ready now, I think they would wait until Qld4 is ready.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Ok then let's do the most logical thing and eliminate the sharks and bring in wareds, ccbears and Ipswich jets. After all the cap is set so that the poorest nrl club can afford it. It's obvious who is the poorest club. So why hold the comp back? As a matter of fact let's get rid of every team and rebuild the comp with a criteria. Let's just see how many other teams actually add to the comp. We keep hearing how the ccbears add little.. What do the cssharks or mwseaeagles or even easts add?