Feleti Mateo and Krisnan Inu sign with Warriors

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[boxhead]

Us Eels fans can be bitter all we want, the facts are that Mateo has been close to the Warriors best player all season and also that Inu has been about the same as he was for the past few years.

If all Inu is doing is sitting down in NSW Cup then I'd love for our management to see if they can buy a release for him......depending on how much it would cost. Wasn't Inu suppossed to be on about 250K or am I off the mark?
I still can't believe we let them go, if we had kept them I can guarantee our attack would be sitting prettier. Oh well, the man responsible is gone, no point being bitter about it.
I like the Warriors though, so I'm happy for Feleti and Krisnan to play so well for them.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The point isn't that they're good players; it's that they're not worth what they're getting paid.

They're on rep players' pay without playing rep footy - Inu played for the Kiwis (genuine rep footy) a couple of years ago but Mateo's only ever played for Tonga and City Origin.

 

[born an eel]

Us Eels fans can be bitter all we want, the facts are that Mateo has been close to the Warriors best player all season and also that Inu has been about the same as he was for the past few years.

If all Inu is doing is sitting down in NSW Cup then I'd love for our management to see if they can buy a release for him......depending on how much it would cost. Wasn't Inu suppossed to be on about 250K or am I off the mark?
I still can't believe we let them go, if we had kept them I can guarantee our attack would be sitting prettier. Oh well, the man responsible is gone, no point being bitter about it.
I like the Warriors though, so I'm happy for Feleti and Krisnan to play so well for them.

sorry mate, can't have it both ways, you either embrase the signings that have been made recently or wish for the same squad as last year. To keep under the salary cap and pay players what they expect/deserve some hard decision have to be made.

 

[btaag]

Mateo and Inu for $750k..... PASS. Stress levels much reduced, effort levels from the boys at 110%, happy for Feliti and Krisnan to earn the big money in New Zealand - I wish them well.

 

[Parra Guru]

This is really becoming the most tedious debate in the NRL and people really need to move on.

 

[Parraren]

This is really becoming the most tedious debate in the NRL and people really need to move on.

It will go on for years and years to come.

Every time we go through a rough patch you will here the bring back Mateo/Inu chorus.

Just like the bring back Tim Smith brigade....

 

[CrazyEel]

Mateo and Inu for $750k..... PASS. Stress levels much reduced, effort levels from the boys at 110%, happy for Feliti and Krisnan to earn the big money in New Zealand - I wish them well.

Agree, happy to see them do well and get such big money at the Warriors, we couldn't, and shouldn't, have paid that much for them.

LOL but we also shouldn't have paid what we did for Morts either but that's another story.

 

[Eels Dude]

Us Eels fans can be bitter all we want, the facts are that Mateo has been close to the Warriors best player all season and also that Inu has been about the same as he was for the past few years.

If all Inu is doing is sitting down in NSW Cup then I'd love for our management to see if they can buy a release for him......depending on how much it would cost. Wasn't Inu suppossed to be on about 250K or am I off the mark?
I still can't believe we let them go, if we had kept them I can guarantee our attack would be sitting prettier. Oh well, the man responsible is gone, no point being bitter about it.
I like the Warriors though, so I'm happy for Feleti and Krisnan to play so well for them.

Inu was copping criticism from everyone on here when he was at Parramatta because he was being paid that kind of cash yet wasn't delivering. The decision to let him go was applauded by most considering how erratic and inconsistent Inu was.

I don't see how you can claim it was a bad decision by the previous coach to let him go when he's all he's done is prove it was the right call because it's clear Inu hasn't changed. And I don't see how you can 'guarentee' anything. I'd rather the Warriors pay him 250k a year to play NSW cup then for Parramatta to pay him 250k to play NSW cup.

Inu had his chance here and he didn't take it. It was the right decision to let him move on.

 

[caylo]

Inu was copping criticism from everyone on here when he was at Parramatta because he was being paid that kind of cash yet wasn't delivering. The decision to let him go was applauded by most considering how erratic and inconsistent Inu was.

I don't see how you can claim it was a bad decision by the previous coach to let him go when he's all he's done is prove it was the right call because it's clear Inu hasn't changed. And I don't see how you can 'guarentee' anything. I'd rather the Warriors pay him 250k a year to play NSW cup then for Parramatta to pay him 250k to play NSW cup.

Inu had his chance here and he didn't take it. It was the right decision to let him move on.

THIS

Even if both played out of their skin they were signed for 400K and 250K which neither is worth to parramatta. Parramatta made the correct call my not competing with these offers and I will leave it to the NZ fans to determine if they are worth it to them.

 

[Stagger eel]

I didn't have a problem with the decision to release those guys and I still don't, especially INU..

 

[boxhead]

Well the debate rages on even without me contributing to the thread that much, I thought I'd post my two cents.
And my opinion is clear; both of them would have stayed for much less than what the Warriors wanted. People should get the 750K figure out of their heads.
I don't particularly care that they are gone, it just bugs me that they were let go and no-one was signed to replace them; that is and always has been the only bad thing through all of this.
Players come and go regardless of how much you want to keep them.
I accept that perfectly.
Our recruitment for 2012 might be sitting pretty but our recruitment for 2011 was horrendous.

 

[Eels Dude]

I seem to recall you being quite pleased with our recruitment last year at the time Boxy. Especially Carl Webb who was supposed to have a new lease of life here but has turned out to be just a dud. At the time we really didn't need a replacement for Inu, we still had Grothe and Tahu on the books but they both changed their minds in December and walked out.

Recruitment can only be judged on how it turns out. Look at the Bulldogs, they were seen as the best recruiting side for 2011 but most if not all their recruits have not performed. Only time will tell if our recruitment for next year turns out strong or not by how those players perform next year.

 

[boxhead]

I seem to recall you being quite pleased with our recruitment last year at the time Boxy. Especially Carl Webb who was supposed to have a new lease of life here but has turned out to be just a dud. At the time we really didn't need a replacement for Inu, we still had Grothe and Tahu on the books but they both changed their minds in December and walked out.

Recruitment can only be judged on how it turns out. Look at the Bulldogs, they were seen as the best recruiting side for 2011 but most if not all their recruits have not performed. Only time will tell if our recruitment for next year turns out strong or not by how those players perform next year.

Well I was happy in the sense that the players we bought would all be hungry, either to prove themselves or for one last opportunity. Even then though, the only quality player we recruited, Reni Maitua, was a gamble; we had no way of knowing how he would go. At least by recruiting Sandow and Roberts we have identified issues that need to be fixed and recruited probably the best players available in those positions.
As far as replacing the two, we have a lot of second rowers at the club, particularly some talented youngsters, and we are lucky that Lasalo has been solid and that Smith and Horo are improving as the season goes on. Frankly, I think Maitua is going to make a huge difference to the team and that issue won't be important.
The outside backs is definitely what killed us, I agree. I mean, Inu started the season in Wentworthville and our back-line would have been the same as last year if not for the departures of Tahu and Grothe.

Fortunately, at this stage, especially if we sign Tonga and a few more depth players, our recruitment for next season is actually looking at improving the side in the areas that need attention.

 

[grapeape]

The fact is parra f**ked up with mateo.

When we had him we wasted him. We used him wrong. And didnt get our money worth.

We offered him shit money and morts good money.

What would u do? One team treats u like shit and doesbt want u nad another wants u to be there highest paid and most important.

In auckland he plays 80mins. Runs 20+ hit ups a game. Leads the teams in meters and the nrl in offlloads. He isnt lazy- he wants do do as much as possible but was restricted at parra.

 

[hineyrulz]

I had no problems with us letting either of them go, they were offered massive overs, But my problem was the lack of any sort of replacements. That is the main reason DA got the punt IMO.

 

[spartan2153]

Correct me if i am wrong but were inu & mateo offered contracts to the value of what the club was thought they were worth, but they decided to take better offers at the warriors.

Did trhey also try & sign any halfback available last year to fix the the problem of morts & robson.

 

[hineyrulz]

Correct me if i am wrong but were inu & mateo offered contracts to the value of what the club was thought they were worth, but they decided to take better offers at the warriors.

Did trhey also try & sign any halfback available last year to fix the the problem of morts & robson.

Inu wasn't offered one at all IIRC and Mateo was offered one but from all reports it was less then he had been on. No problem with either of those decisions but they would have been better than who we signed.......

 

[spartan2153]

Inu wasn't offered one at all IIRC and Mateo was offered one but from all reports it was less then he had been on. No problem with either of those decisions but they would have been better than who we signed.......

Just like io thought but then in saying that. If they had signed the current coaches would not have been able to go on the spending spree they have this year.

So in other words they looked at the future & made the smart decision on not shooting themselves in the foot

 

[hineyrulz]

Just like io thought but then in saying that. If they had signed the current coaches would not have been able to go on the spending spree they have this year.

So in other words they looked at the future & made the smart decision on not shooting themselves in the foot

The smart decison would have been to have sort of replacements for them, DA had Webb,Casey and not much else. I feel sorry for DA he had to deal with that Numpty Hagans mess who set this club back at least 5 years. Kearney has that job now and as it stands if we pick up Tonga next year is looking much brighter.