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Fifita

Sharkman

Juniors
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Maybe the suspension and loss of coin might get into their thick fgn skulls.

Sorry boys, your shite does stink. Don't be fgn morons again and we'll be sweet.

PS - practice running in a straight fgn line and not flopping around like epileptic being electrified before playing the ball correctly.
PPS - don't eat all the pies.
 

Surely

Post Whore
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Its a f**king joke

Stopping them from playing footy only hurts the fans .

They probably are upset but they don't have the baggage we have .
Fine the dumb merkins
Make them clean public dunnies
Stopping them from playing if it weakens the team is shit
It was not the Sharks fault they did that
Yet the Sharks have to wear the brunt of the punishment .


Bingo


On field incidents suspensions

Off field if its criminal then courts apply punishment if found guilty, if its bad taste that offends the easily offended then a fine and a bit of community work wearing a halo
 

carcharias

Immortal
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43,120
It is a ridiculous system
Take SKD
He is on about 20 very serious charges
V
Fifita x 2

Both incidents had nothing to do with their respective clubs.
Forget the fact that one was at a footy game
Big deal - they have a women in league round too.

Fifita will miss 6 weeks at a crucial time of the year.
SKD plead not guilty. He can play and maybe win a comp.
Then who knows , if he's found guilty in 6 months time what punishment has the roosters fans copped compared us?

FTR I think SKD should be allowed to play until he had his day in court.
I just don't think banning blokes from playing is working fairly.
 

cb4

First Grade
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Anyone on a domestic violence charge should be stood down until their day in court.

Regardless if he has mates on a forum sticking up for him, or the woman is a real COAT, they should not be playing.

The Souths bloke gave his misses a right royal hiding, pleaded not guilty, played an entire season, won a comp and then got suspended for 23 weeks.
 

millersnose

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Anyone on a domestic violence charge should be stood down until their day in court.

gee that puts a quandary out there

if we make the grand final and play the cowboys we could bribe some chick to make an allegation against Thurston and Scott for rape
 

millersnose

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incidentally skd may well be innocent and a victim of a spitefull relationship

the fifitas are clearly guilty of abusing the ref by their own admissions
 

carcharias

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incidentally skd may well be innocent and a victim of a spitefull relationship

the fifitas are clearly guilty of abusing the ref by their own admissions

Yes
But that is not the point

They could've been stood down for fighting each other in a pub
While a bloke on domestic violence charges could win a grand final or at least help his side make the top 4 etc
 

millersnose

Post Whore
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yes but to be fair skd is entitled to a presumption of innocence
if he had pleaded guilty, as the fifitas effectively had, then there is no doubt he would be stood down

there is no doubt what happened with the fifitas as there were abundant witnesses and their own accounts

we can whinge about the severity of the penalties as others would about the leniency of the penalties but any reasonable person would conclude its probably about right
 

dreary

Juniors
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The other thing is there are financial issues at stake for the club that are not recompensed.

6 weeks forced vacation of the most highly paid player in the team = financial cost approximately = $100,000 just on A. Fifita's salary. There is no salary cap dispensation or the like either.

The Club is then required to dip into Juniors and pay bonuses out of the second tear cap of which if they go over will also be fined. Then the lost dollars if the team loses games they would have won with those players playing etc... (no way to calculate but more $$$$)

All in a situation the Club had no control or management over.

If the NRL is going to take the correct view of innocent until proven guilty in criminal cases the onus of proof and innocent until proven guilty should be the case in other areas too. I don't see the equity of a situation where someone claims not guilty of domestic assault gets the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise in a court of law but someone who pleads not guilty to verbal abuse of a ref is found guilty in the media and court of public outrage and the NRL without due process.

Anything that is proven and happens off the field and out of the responsibility of the footy club should be handled by a fine stipulated by the NRL. It is taken directly from the player's salary and portions of which should then go back to the aggrieved parties, club and junior league depending on circumstances.

We as fans will now have some 10% at least in $ terms of our on-field assets on the side lines at a critical time of the season due to no fault of the club. Worst of all this is has occurred at least 5 times (Carney, Buster, Latu, Bird etc..) in about the last 7-8 years and when similar things have happened at other clubs (Souths, Roosters, Bronco's) and they do nothing the NRL turn a blind eye. Take it out of the hands of the Clubs and have a set penalty for off field indiscretions of say 10% of yearly salary and play on until the point of court sanctioned jail time.
 

carcharias

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yes but to be fair skd is entitled to a presumption of innocence
if he had pleaded guilty, as the fifitas effectively had, then there is no doubt he would be stood down

there is no doubt what happened with the fifitas as there were abundant witnesses and their own accounts

we can whinge about the severity of the penalties as others would about the leniency of the penalties but any reasonable person would conclude its probably about right

Yeah
But I'm not talking about how guilty they are

I'm just saying it had nothing to do with the Sharks but the Sharks get punished
While SKD can play on for who knows how long it will take to be sorted .

Your better off getting arrested for beating up a girl and then denying it
Than you are for pissing in your own gob and admitting it .
 
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If this was a certain former player now boxer he would have played the race card and the NRL would have backed down.

We seem to always be the club that gets screwed, the Broncos players are the toilet incident played no issue.

Last year Boyd wrecks hotel room whilst with Knights claims depression he then rest for remainder of season, if he was a shark would have been either sacked or suspended on his return.

Hidden agenda no, the NRL does not want us to get close to winning this comp they never have, the no try against Raiders was plain as day.

I would like to know how many of our tries/possible tries go to video ref against the other clubs, i would be confident we are in top 4 in tries sent upstairs to be reviewed
 

Snoop Shark

First Grade
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The reason why SKD will be back is this:

- Before going to the police both the NRL and roosters were aware of this bitter ex's attempt to get 15k plus a landrover off SKD to settle the breakup.

When SKD told her where to go she went to the cops...funny that!
 

Mr Angry

Not a Referee
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gee that puts a quandary out there

if we make the grand final and play the cowboys we could bribe some chick to make an allegation against Thurston and Scott for rape

Agreed..thought this before...in my head there was a bookie behind it.....just a thought.
 

Weaponhead

Coach
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Perfect "redemption story" fodder for the first week of the finals.

They play for the Sharks. We don't do redemption stories. We are the pantomime villains for the NRL.

Blake Fergus singing a new deal for Easts and being all grown up now. That's a redemption story.
 

carcharias

Immortal
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The reason why SKD will be back is this:

- Before going to the police both the NRL and roosters were aware of this bitter ex's attempt to get 15k plus a landrover off SKD to settle the breakup.

When SKD told her where to go she went to the cops...funny that!

oh cmon

everyone could name one bloke they know of who has had to give a chick money or a house or some bullshit.
you seem to know him.
good .
I'm sure he is a top bloke.

the Nrl did not make this some special case because she tried to get money out of him in the past.

It is just a stupid loophole in the rules.
The more serious the charge the longer you seem to be able to play on without getting stood down if you plead innocent

unless you are greg bird.
 

dreary

Juniors
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930
Same can happen with the current Fifita situation. What if we were about to play Penrith in the semi's and all hypothetical of course a PJRL Ref sees two first grade players running water for a team and decide to instigate a run in with them and exaggerate a report and send it to the media and NRL....

There should be clear guidelines and it should not involve standing down the players from the Club or for that matter result in the PJRL gaining additional funding other wise it is an incentive for COATs of all types.
 

Sharkman

Juniors
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1,071
Fg me - a few of you lads are over the top on this. I love conspiracy theories as much as the next but really?

Pretty much all the forum has been smashing AF for being big headed, playing like he doesn't really give a fg, not caring about mistakes and generally carrying like a tosser who needs to be dropped a few rungs down the ladder of awesomeness he sees himself on.

Now, thanks no doubt to that questionable attitude, he's gets pumped for something that most "normal" people would have realised was going to end in tears and prevented.

I'm all for it.
Stupid as all fk to do such a thing.

And if we were Cronullafied, we would have lost him for the season.

If we don't make the semis from here or don't get the 5 or 6 spot, that'd be because we've played like a bunch of soft kents from here on in.

And if you don't think Lyall isn't going to work a redemption story into the papers for AF you're nuts.
 

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