Finals Week One

[grouch]

I wish, that'd be a great job.

Yes our club is a work in progress, we're building towards being a good team who can win a premiership in the next 2-3 years. Will we ever go back to winning 11 premierships in a row like the circle jerkers expect? No, that is impossible in the current day. 2 in a row is a rare achievement.

Every sporting team, business, government or even someone's life in general has peaks and troughs, ups and downs. If your faith in this team is not unwavering when tested (which is the case for most in here, judging by posts) you are clearly a fair weather fan. You clearly don't understand the changing landscape of the NRL nor would you attempt to. It's time for those people to shut up and support the team. Stop calling for everyone's head because you don't understand the modern version of the NRL.

This is utterly embarrassing. Only the most debased apologist would equate wanting a successful club with wanting 11 premierships in a row. In future, save us the spiralling hypocritical contradictions within your garbage posts by summing it up in this way: "true fans accept mediocrity"

 

[fizman]

I don’t usually step into other Clubs forums, but goodness me I hope you blokes give it to the tree swinging banana bending hillbillies on the weekend.

And I hope Ben Hunt has a blinder and makes the winning play.

 

[My man Gasnier]

Our team has a long way to go before its going to win a premiership and every fan has the right to voice their opinion on how they see the "progress" or non-progress is going. This nonsense about a real fan accepts whatever crap is dished up and just rolls with the punches is fantasy.

No one on here has mentioned winning another 11 premierships back to back so why is this even part of your argument. What is upsetting the fan base is the secrecy and nepotism shown in decisions by the board, the management and the coaching staff. They want to see a team that is competitive and doesn't capitulate in games.

I don't know how old you are or how long you've been a fan but you have no right to criticise any fan that has been one for 50 or 60 years or more. These fans "fair weather fans" understand the changing NRL landscape better than you do, they've seen the changes first hand and the bad management that has not kept up and led to the demise of the club over at least the last two decades.

In your view we have a long way to go, not necessarily in anyone else's. A real fan supports the team through thick and thin. A fake fan makes snide remarks about players, coaching staff and management as if they have all the answers, that is the height of arrogance and delusion. They say they're realists, but they think by political point scoring over every decision made that somehow will fix the problem. That isn't reality, that is fantasy. The reality is you're a supporter of the team, your opinion does not matter, your support does. So make a choice, support the team or don't, the ranting on here will not achieve anything and I for one, have had a complete gutful of it.

You say everyone thinks the board is corrupt, but I call bullshit on that. Instead it is outdated, out of touch and delusional fair weather fans expecting instant results. We won a premiership 8 years ago, that is not a long time. The circle jerkers can learn to accept the club for what is and where it is or they can support another team/follow another sport.

 

[My man Gasnier]

This is utterly embarrassing. Only the most debased apologist would equate wanting a successful club with wanting 11 premierships in a row. In future, save us the spiralling hypocritical contradictions within your garbage posts by summing it up in this way: "true fans accept mediocrity"

I know part of the circle jerk group on here were around when we won 11 in a row, that remains their expectation and benchmark for success. You clearly don't understand peaks and troughs or rebuilding periods, which is exactly why you have no clue of the modern day NRL.

Answer this for me, what does a successful club look like to you?

Do you understand how subjective that is to each individual supporter? We've made the top 8 this year, is that successful?
Is winning this weekend successful?
Is losing the grand final successful?

 

[Carlton]

In your view we have a long way to go, not necessarily in anyone else's. A real fan supports the team through thick and thin. A fake fan makes snide remarks about players, coaching staff and management as if they have all the answers, that is the height of arrogance and delusion. They say they're realists, but they think by political point scoring over every decision made that somehow will fix the problem. That isn't reality, that is fantasy. The reality is you're a supporter of the team, your opinion does not matter, your support does. So make a choice, support the team or don't, the ranting on here will not achieve anything and I for one, have had a complete gutful of it.

You say everyone thinks the board is corrupt, but I call bullshit on that. Instead it is outdated, out of touch and delusional fair weather fans expecting instant results. We won a premiership 8 years ago, that is not a long time. The circle jerkers can learn to accept the club for what is and where it is or they can support another team/follow another sport.

You really have a lot to learn about being a fan, maybe after supporting them for five minutes, you may understand that being a fan doesn't mean you have to accept everything about the team and club. This is a forum and discussing issues is part of it and if you can't accept that maybe you should stop posting derogatory comments about fans that have been through thick and thin.

A fake fan is one who has no objectivity about the team/clubs performance and attempts to ridicule "older" fans by trying to insinuate that any involvement prior to their own is irrelevant. Instead of trying to belittle fans with a long history grow up and listen to them they've seen alot more than you have.

Its not instant success that I want, its to see the changes made at management, board and coaching levels that will lead to success. Its to see a team with grit and that doesn't falter whenever the pressures on, I don't like it but I can live with losing, what matters the most is were we in the contest.

 

[Carlton]

I know part of the circle jerk group on here were around when we won 11 in a row, that remains their expectation and benchmark for success. You clearly don't understand peaks and troughs or rebuilding periods, which is exactly why you have no clue of the modern day NRL.

Answer this for me, what does a successful club look like to you?

Do you understand how subjective that is to each individual supporter? We've made the top 8 this year, is that successful?
Is winning this weekend successful?
Is losing the grand final successful?

No one has stated that the measure of success is 11 premierships in a row, why keep pushing this crap? Those who saw it know it was something that will probably never happen again and to be honest I hope it never does. Those teams were very very special and what they achieved was phenominal.

The trouble is I dont know if you understand what rebuilding is. We have supposedly been rebuilding every year since 2010 and this year was the one our coach had the team he wanted. Sounds like to me he thought the rebuilding was done.

And when you talk about modern day rugby league I'm pretty sure I have watched the same "modern" game you have for just as long as you have. What I have seen along with many other fans is the game before you're special modern game and have a much broader perspective than you do as a result.

 

[st penguin]

Wǒ zhēn de xīwàng nǐ néng shǐyòng zhèngquè de yǔfǎ.

你在說什麼

 

[grouch]

I know part of the circle jerk group on here were around when we won 11 in a row, that remains their expectation and benchmark for success. You clearly don't understand peaks and troughs or rebuilding periods, which is exactly why you have no clue of the modern day NRL.

Answer this for me, what does a successful club look like to you?

Do you understand how subjective that is to each individual supporter? We've made the top 8 this year, is that successful?
Is winning this weekend successful?
Is losing the grand final successful?

I guess in this "modern NRL" of peaks and troughs, the only true success is the steady flat line of mediocrity. I see your point. Now we shall all celebrate with a circle jerk 11 times in a row.

 

[2010]

I don’t usually step into other Clubs forums, but goodness me I hope you blokes give it to the tree swinging banana bending hillbillies on the weekend.

And I hope Ben Hunt has a blinder and makes the winning play.

Your welcome here and I hope we can get them out of the finals

 

[2010]

No one has stated that the measure of success is 11 premierships in a row, why keep pushing this crap? Those who saw it know it was something that will probably never happen again and to be honest I hope it never does. Those teams were very very special and what they achieved was phenominal.

The trouble is I dont know if you understand what rebuilding is. We have supposedly been rebuilding every year since 2010 and this year was the one our coach had the team he wanted. Sounds like to me he thought the rebuilding was done.

And when you talk about modern day rugby league I'm pretty sure I have watched the same "modern" game you have for just as long as you have. What I have seen along with many other fans is the game before you're special modern game and have a much broader perspective than you do as a result.

I think that so called supporter should read Never Before Never Again.

 

[Smurf]

Federer just got beaten in the tennis
So there is hope for the mighty dragons
Let’s smash those broncos

 

[OzDragon]

Nighty 18th man. Lomax keeps spot, Widdop back and JDB named. Aitken/Host/Sele in reserves. Mann on bench.

 

[Old Kogarah Boy 1]

你在說什麼

Does that translate to ............ ??????

 

[Dennis Papaioannou]

This is utterly embarrassing. Only the most debased apologist would equate wanting a successful club with wanting 11 premierships in a row. In future, save us the spiralling hypocritical contradictions within your garbage posts by summing it up in this way: "true fans accept mediocrity"

Delusional, one dimensional and devoid of any sensibility.
Has no real understanding of what has transpired since the merger.
Being a hypocrite like MMG is bad enough but coupled with being rude and patronizing... - loose canon.

 

[Dennis Papaioannou]

You really have a lot to learn about being a fan, maybe after supporting them for five minutes, you may understand that being a fan doesn't mean you have to accept everything about the team and club. This is a forum and discussing issues is part of it and if you can't accept that maybe you should stop posting derogatory comments about fans that have been through thick and thin.

A fake fan is one who has no objectivity about the team/clubs performance and attempts to ridicule "older" fans by trying to insinuate that any involvement prior to their own is irrelevant. Instead of trying to belittle fans with a long history grow up and listen to them they've seen alot more than you have.

Its not instant success that I want, its to see the changes made at management, board and coaching levels that will lead to success. Its to see a team with grit and that doesn't falter whenever the pressures on, I don't like it but I can live with losing, what matters the most is were we in the contest.

An eloquent slam dunk - much appreciated post, thank you

 

[slippery5]

Nighty 18th man. Lomax keeps spot, Widdop back and JDB named. Aitken/Host/Sele in reserves. Mann on bench.

My guess is, Aitken & Nighty to come into team after captains run.

 

[My man Gasnier]

You really have a lot to learn about being a fan, maybe after supporting them for five minutes, you may understand that being a fan doesn't mean you have to accept everything about the team and club. This is a forum and discussing issues is part of it and if you can't accept that maybe you should stop posting derogatory comments about fans that have been through thick and thin.

A fake fan is one who has no objectivity about the team/clubs performance and attempts to ridicule "older" fans by trying to insinuate that any involvement prior to their own is irrelevant. Instead of trying to belittle fans with a long history grow up and listen to them they've seen alot more than you have.

Its not instant success that I want, its to see the changes made at management, board and coaching levels that will lead to success. Its to see a team with grit and that doesn't falter whenever the pressures on, I don't like it but I can live with losing, what matters the most is were we in the contest.

You're absolutely right, it is a forum, so I have every right to start calling you fake, fairweather fans out for what you are. To be honest it's about time someone around here did! Too many members are afraid to express their true thoughts on here in fear of reprisal and ridicule from the circle jerkers.

Your definition of success is very broad and has no substance to it. It shows that you and others are so blinded by your arrogance and delusion that anyone who tries to make you see reason is seen as an enemy. Your definition shows you and others can't even outline a tangible measure of where you want us to be. That paints a very clear picture as to what I've been saying.

 

[Overseas dragon]

You're absolutely right, it is a forum, so I have every right to start calling you fake, fairweather fans out for what you are. To be honest it's about time someone around here did! Too many members are afraid to express their true thoughts on here in fear of reprisal and ridicule from the circle jerkers.

Your definition of success is very broad and has no substance to it. It shows that you and others are so blinded by your arrogance and delusion that anyone who tries to make you see reason is seen as an enemy. Your definition shows you and others can't even outline a tangible measure of where you want us to be. That paints a very clear picture as to what I've been saying.

let me point out just one important fact. mr gasnier ,you have been a member of this forum for 5 minutes your opinion is yours and yours alone .dont try and push your opinion down our throats to get respect you must give respect ............

 

[denis preston]

Fellas , can we ignore anything from this Gasnier dude as he clearly is a troll and is ruining every thread when he gets a bight.

 

[My man Gasnier]

let me point out just one important fact. mr gasnier ,you have been a member of this forum for 5 minutes your opinion is yours and yours alone .dont try and push your opinion down our throats to get respect you must give respect ............

I'll never be able to respect people who don't respect the club they supposedly support.