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Flanno's New Signings

56to66

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That does seem like a more logical approach than fighting a random on the internet down the local Coles.
Yeah I might hungry afterwards and pick some groceries, feed two birds with one scone.
Late breaking news, two St George supporters, have a big fight at local Coles, Cause - Local Police say it all started over the extention of Shane Flanagans coaching contract.
 
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Jubilee

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Yeah I might hungry afterwards and pick some groceries, feed two birds with one scone.
Late breaking news, two St George supporters, have a big fight at local Coles, Cause - Local Police say it all started over the extention of Shane Flanagans coaching contract.
It gets serious when one guy falls and hits his head on the concrete. That is when someone wishes to god that he had a time machine to go back and not get out of bed that day.
 

56to66

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It gets serious when one guy falls and hits his head on the concrete. That is when someone wishes to god that he had a time machine to go back and not get out of bed that day.
That's why I said to him from beginning, "I am quite happy to meet you in a Ring"
I was actually part of a jury involving a coward punch back ten years ago and I know first hand the anguish caused for both the victim and the aggressor, luckily for the victim, he survived, after major surgery, for the other guy life time criminal record.
 
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since77

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He has 2 years left.

We brought him back into coaching. As fooked as we are, we deserve some credit here. I again don't see the need to upgrade now.

In fact, I see it as negligent. 2 years left, without a ball being kicked and we extend the bloke ?

Anyway mate. We won't agree on this.
I’d agree that we shouldn’t necessarily feel pressured to extend him. However for the first time since (and maybe even including Bennett) we have a coach who is actually articulating a smart long term plan to bring success to the club. It would be logical for the club to buy into and back this plan and consider extending him at some point even before his contract ends. Also there’s not going to be much quality out there in a year or two’s time. Bellamy certain to either retire or stay in Melbourne. Bennett close to 80. There‘s no other currently employed coaches I’d be interested in. So for me, it’s wise to at least consider backing the Flanno plan completely and at least put thought into extending him early, particularly if we’re performing well by mid season ‘25. Of course I wouldn’t do it based on an article by a clown like the Mole.
 

TruSaint

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I’d agree that we shouldn’t necessarily feel pressured to extend him. However for the first time since (and maybe even including Bennett) we have a coach who is actually articulating a smart long term plan to bring success to the club. It would be logical for the club to buy into and back this plan and consider extending him at some point even before his contract ends. Also there’s not going to be much quality out there in a year or two’s time. Bellamy certain to either retire or stay in Melbourne. Bennett close to 80. There‘s no other currently employed coaches I’d be interested in. So for me, it’s wise to at least consider backing the Flanno plan completely and at least put thought into extending him early, particularly if we’re performing well by mid season ‘25. Of course I wouldn’t do it based on an article by a clown like the Mole.


Fair call mate.
 

justadragon

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Yeah I might hungry afterwards and pick some groceries, feed two birds with one scone.
Late breaking news, two St George supporters, have a big fight at local Coles, Cause - Local Police say it all started over the extention of Shane Flanagans coaching contract.
No I dont think that was quite it 56to66, I think it was all fine debating the SF extension, it was the statement made that not many on here are true supporters and want 1 or 0 premierships in the next 40 years, or something like that. That was a bit of a harsh post mate, knowing what goes on in this forum, I would say nearly all are diehard.
It obviously hit a nerve with TruSaint, I love reading both your posts, doesn't mean I agree with them, but to call out someone's true passion and love for a club, that we all love passionately, that would hurt, and yes some people take that very personal. And here we are.
There, I'll leave it up to you to decide what to do, I've said my bit which is more than enough.
 

justadragon

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I’d agree that we shouldn’t necessarily feel pressured to extend him. However for the first time since (and maybe even including Bennett) we have a coach who is actually articulating a smart long term plan to bring success to the club. It would be logical for the club to buy into and back this plan and consider extending him at some point even before his contract ends. Also there’s not going to be much quality out there in a year or two’s time. Bellamy certain to either retire or stay in Melbourne. Bennett close to 80. There‘s no other currently employed coaches I’d be interested in. So for me, it’s wise to at least consider backing the Flanno plan completely and at least put thought into extending him early, particularly if we’re performing well by mid season ‘25. Of course I wouldn’t do it based on an article by a clown like the Mole.
Fair call mate.
Personally I think the Dragons would be looking at something mid next season, mad if they dont depending on how things are going. And as for this crappy article, it has achieved exactly what it was meant to do, clickbait. It wanted to stir the Dragons fanbase up, well it has certainly done that. I will place my trust in Flanno to do the right thing when the time happens.
 

Dragon David

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DY has got our back :)
I'm thinking that any real success in 2025 and beyond would depend on our assistant coaches. We have heard Flanno on podcasts, SEN, in Website News and Sports Programmes etc and we can feel confident that he will get more out of the players next year.

The question that I ask is will Flanno be able to get the best out of Dean Young and Ryan Carr? Have Young and Carr looked at how they can improve our defence and attack? We know that our for and against last season was poor so even though there was that improvement up the ladder from 2023 our for and against was not good by a long way in 2024.

Flanno's longevity at the Dragons in my very humble opinion relies on the ability of both Young and Carr to have the players defend and attack like crazy. I question Young's ability and as far as I am concerned, I wish that he had served a few years in the Super League. Also, our attack under Carr hasn't been brilliant to say the least, so a big improvement in attack is needed and if he cannot get us scoring more tries then maybe Flanno might need to exchange him for someone better?

I would like to see how we are travelling at least just after halfway next year before discussing Flanno's future at the Dragons. Likewise with his assistants.
 

justadragon

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I'm thinking that any real success in 2025 and beyond would depend on our assistant coaches. We have heard Flanno on podcasts, SEN, in Website News and Sports Programmes etc and we can feel confident that he will get more out of the players next year.

The question that I ask is will Flanno be able to get the best out of Dean Young and Ryan Carr? Have Young and Carr looked at how they can improve our defence and attack? We know that our for and against last season was poor so even though there was that improvement up the ladder from 2023 our for and against was not good by a long way in 2024.

Flanno's longevity at the Dragons in my very humble opinion relies on the ability of both Young and Carr to have the players defend and attack like crazy. I question Young's ability and as far as I am concerned, I wish that he had served a few years in the Super League. Also, our attack under Carr hasn't been brilliant to say the least, so a big improvement in attack is needed and if he cannot get us scoring more tries then maybe Flanno might need to exchange him for someone better?

I would like to see how we are travelling at least just after halfway next year before discussing Flanno's future at the Dragons. Likewise with his assistants.
I dont think we will have a choice to come up with better attacking plans Dave. Now that Hunt is gone, it cant revolve around him anymore, it should and hopefully become a team based attack. Defence may still be the issue though, even though we are a year advanced, hopefully that will improve as well. I am really expecting something totally different this year. FB defence should be way better for starters.
 

Old Timer

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No I dont think that was quite it 56to66, I think it was all fine debating the SF extension, it was the statement made that not many on here are true supporters and want 1 or 0 premierships in the next 40 years, or something like that. That was a bit of a harsh post mate, knowing what goes on in this forum, I would say nearly all are diehard.
It obviously hit a nerve with TruSaint, I love reading both your posts, doesn't mean I agree with them, but to call out someone's true passion and love for a club, that we all love passionately, that would hurt, and yes some people take that very personal. And here we are.
There, I'll leave it up to you to decide what to do, I've said my bit which is more than enough.
Extremely well put @ justadragon

Every so often the old chestnut of “the true supporter” accusation rears its ugly head as does the other one “if you want to be critical go follow another team”

I have been subject to both those calls and like True (and despite my advanced years) I am willing to have it out with any merkin that goes down that track.

We all have differing positions on various issues concerning our club be it BOD, coach, players, captain, tactics, signings, retention, ground, merger, strip etc etc and rightfully so otherwise it’s just another vacuum like so many other clubs forums.

Trotting out the old man, senile, dementia terminologies etc are also inflammatory and people should be mindful that such comments make light of a serious issue confronting many people not potentially just the elder statesmen in this place.

Merkin’s ok though.
 

Old Timer

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Reality is what exists between an individual's ears, it's not everyone's reality.

yes there is truth to what you believe as there is truth in what I believe

On my part 'ASAP' was probably a little hasty
But there is nothing to stop the lines of communication starting ASAP

Negotiations can take many months, by which time we should be well into the season.

My point is, you don't want to leave it till Flanno has multiple choices at inflated $$$

Strike whilst the iron is hot!
Be careful what your ironing isn’t Teflon coated and almost impervious to a hot iron until the moment that it explodes in your face.
 

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