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Flanno's New Signings

possm

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I'm not suggesting we can't make the top 4, but top 8 is definitely a good result. Considering what our last 3 or 4 coaches didn't achieve. 14 years of misery. His summer recruitment alone deserves an extension. If the club fails to lock him in and we lose him, it will be the biggest bungle this club has made.
Recruit an alpha prop or two and we definitely can make top 4.
 
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Heaven forbid you mention accountability.

Evidently according to some experts this best coach needs to have more time than other best coaches and his disciples need to have excuses at the ready just in case.

I just don’t quite get how a premiership winning coach should get an extension for a similar result that posters said a dinosaur coach should be sacked for.

Now if he has us rocketing along at the 75% mark of the new season then by all means I understand the need to open the discussion and secure his extension.

I’ve heard all the yelling in this place about players “who owed the club” and “needed to repay the clubs faith in them” etc and all the “he’s a scummy prick for not staying criticisms” etc and the “general vitriol” against any decent player that leaves even for personal reasons but evidently S F is none of those things if he decides to take up an option elsewhere and it’s all on us for not extending him purely on potential.

If ever there was someone who owed a debt of gratitude to this club SF would be extremely high on the list and if he was take up an option elsewhere this early in his contract with us then should be called the merkin of all merkins.

I hope that he is a man that truly knows the level of support our club has given him and that he just gets on with his job, proves his ability and then negotiates in good faith.


100% agree that there must be accountability but it also must be fair and reasonable

Ryles is in a completely different place to where we are at.

He has a 4 year contract and realises that he needs to have his club firing mid-way through his 3rd year so he has 2-3 years to rebuild and will use that time to bring his younger hopefully to be long term players through and at the same time recruit some mid 20 year old players that will be well established 2 or 3 years from now

How you can possible suggest that your boy, with the golden balls, should be held to less account than Flanno? It just doesn't pass the pub test IMO. No need to post the differences, I've read them all previously - I don't agree.

Flanno's support from our board, that deserves his eternal gratitude, has him performing multiple roles that he should only be overseeing. Not his fault, just his reality.

What Flanno inherited requires at least an extra year to what Ryles has been gifted.

I would then expect Flanno would outperform Ryles.in every way.
 

Old Timer

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100% agree that there must be accountability but it also must be fair and reasonable



How you can possible suggest that your boy, with the golden balls, should be held to less account than Flanno? It just doesn't pass the pub test IMO. No need to post the differences, I've read them all previously - I don't agree.

Flanno's support from our board, that deserves his eternal gratitude, has him performing multiple roles that he should only be overseeing. Not his fault, just his reality.

What Flanno inherited requires at least an extra year to what Ryles has been gifted.

I would then expect Flanno would outperform Ryles.in every way.
FMD another person who has trouble with comprehension.

How you can possibly deduce I’m defending Hook in anyway with that post is beyond any possible reasoning.

I love your excuses as to why S F needs this, that and the other and what he inherited bla bla bla.

He has more than enough to work with to out perform Hook and in fact did so in 2024 as well.

Any repetitive poor results this year will firmly sit with him and he should be treated accordingly.

Any repetitive good results will also sit with him and he should also be treated accordingly.

No excuses he can either coach or he can’t.
 
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FMD another person who has trouble with comprehension.

How you can possibly deduce I’m defending Hook in anyway with that post is beyond any possible reasoning.

I love your excuses as to why S F needs this, that and the other and what he inherited bla bla bla.

He has more than enough to work with to out perform Hook and in fact did so in 2024 as well.

Any repetitive poor results this year will firmly sit with him and he should be treated accordingly.

Any repetitive good results will also sit with him and he should also be treated accordingly.

No excuses he can either coach or he can’t.
Comprehension? Who mentioned Hook?
I also agreed with accountability but being fair

Your response unhinged

You are losing the plot O.T.
 

TruSaint

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FMD another person who has trouble with comprehension.

How you can possibly deduce I’m defending Hook in anyway with that post is beyond any possible reasoning.

I love your excuses as to why S F needs this, that and the other and what he inherited bla bla bla.

He has more than enough to work with to out perform Hook and in fact did so in 2024 as well.

Any repetitive poor results this year will firmly sit with him and he should be treated accordingly.

Any repetitive good results will also sit with him and he should also be treated accordingly.

No excuses he can either coach or he can’t.

Think Hound was referring to Ryles mate.
 

Old Timer

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Comprehension? Who mentioned Hook?
I also agreed with accountability but being fair

Your response unhinged

You are losing the plot O.T.
So who is “my boy” with golden balls?

If you are implying that is D Y then just say so as he is not “my boy” and I would never have hired him and seeing he was I would have sacked him after 2 of the pathetic losses last year.

Any way get back to me when he out performs Hook and Mc Fooknuckle’s best efforts.
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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FMD another person who has trouble with comprehension.

How you can possibly deduce I’m defending Hook in anyway with that post is beyond any possible reasoning.

I love your excuses as to why S F needs this, that and the other and what he inherited bla bla bla.

He has more than enough to work with to out perform Hook and in fact did so in 2024 as well.

Any repetitive poor results this year will firmly sit with him and he should be treated accordingly.

Any repetitive good results will also sit with him and he should also be treated accordingly.

No excuses he can either coach or he can’t.
What’s deemed repetitively good and what’s deemed repetitively bad by you?

Where’s the line in the pass mark?
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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So who is “my boy” with golden balls?

If you are implying that is D Y then just say so as he is not “my boy” and I would never have hired him and seeing he was I would have sacked him after 2 of the pathetic losses last year.

Any way get back to me when he out performs Hook and Mc Fooknuckle’s best efforts.
We will.
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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So who is “my boy” with golden balls?

If you are implying that is D Y then just say so as he is not “my boy” and I would never have hired him and seeing he was I would have sacked him after 2 of the pathetic losses last year.

Any way get back to me when he out performs Hook and Mc Fooknuckle’s best efforts.
Hey. Hey. Hey.

It’s Faaaaaat Albert.
 

Old Timer

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What’s deemed repetitively good and what’s deemed repetitively bad by you?

Where’s the line in the pass mark?
Bad
More losses than wins

More than 2 losses of 30 or more with a full side on the paddock.

Having no chance of being in the 8 with 2 or more weeks to go.

Good
2 more wins than losses

Winning at least 45% of games we play against the top 8 from 2024.

Winning at least 60% of the games against the teams that finished out of the top 8.

No 2nd half horror capitulations.
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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Bad
More losses than wins

More than 2 losses of 30 or more with a full side on the paddock.

Having no chance of being in the 8 with 2 or more weeks to go.

Good
2 more wins than losses

Winning at least 45% of games we play against the top 8 from 2024.

Winning at least 60% of the games against the teams that finished out of the top 8.

No 2nd half horror capitulations.
Thought about it a bit have ya?

Sound like contractual KPI’s or white ants inside the club.
That’s crazy talk though.

How much you want to bet we make the 8?

pass mark? Plain and simple.
 

Old Timer

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Thought about it a bit have ya?

Sound like contractual KPI’s or white ants inside the club.
That’s crazy talk though.

How much you want to bet we make the 8?

pass mark? Plain and simple.
Obviously I’ve thought about it and think my view of things is fair but you no doubt think otherwise so be it.

With all the pumping up of S F tyres and his recruitment one would think the good scenario is easily in his reach.

Not sure how to interpret your bet offer it seems a bit ambiguous however I neither want to bet we will or we won’t as I have never placed a bet against my team and won’t start doing so now.

If the results fall into the bad scenario I’ll be interested to see what posters have to say and if they finish in the good scenario then a 2 year coach extension would be well within order.
 

saintmar

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And yet we extended Mary multiple times despite his gross incompetence in managing a much better squad
Correct thats why we can not make the same mistakes again
We extended Mary after winning a few games in a row,what a joke that was from the Illawarra side
I don‘t understand why the uproar if we wait to sign Flano.
Why are people on here overreacting to sign him now
If he is good enough he will get the results and he will be resigned.If not then he should be moved on.
Making the 8 should be a shoe in for a coach who now has his squad.
We should expect and aim for top 6 and above
Those wanting Flano signed now obviously have no confidence in the coach to get the required results.
If they did have the confidence they would know it would only be a formality as to when he gets resigned as the results will be there.
As for him being poached,someone who believes in what he is doing to rebuild the club and has LOYALTY won’t leave and if he does, he is not the guy for us.
This is not rocket science it’s just a simple pragmatic approach to prevent our previous mistakes from repeating.
I am sure Flano agrees he needs to get the results to be extended
 
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saintmar

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Obviously I’ve thought about it and think my view of things is fair but you no doubt think otherwise so be it.

With all the pumping up of S F tyres and his recruitment one would think the good scenario is easily in his reach.

Not sure how to interpret your bet offer it seems a bit ambiguous however I neither want to bet we will or we won’t as I have never placed a bet against my team and won’t start doing so now.

If the results fall into the bad scenario I’ll be interested to see what posters have to say and if they finish in the good scenario then a 2 year coach extension would be well within order.
Old Timer you make so much sense in all your posts mate
I feel only people with lack of faith in Flano want him signed immediately
 
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