Former Panthers in the NRL

[maple_69]

I think Mansour is the type of winger that will perform best in a poor team. When you have a pack like ours that tends to get us down field his contributions don’t shine as much. Sauce has probably been my favourite Panther for the last 4/5 years. I think he still does his job well and has developed some great decision making in defence. His lack of tries is as much the fault of the 3 guys inside him as his.

In saying that, backline spark is a big think missing from this side. Moving on from Blake is a much bigger question mark to me than Sivo. It’ll take a good signing to replace him but I think the time is coming to do it and move on from Mansour.

 

[franklin2323]

He ran for 135m a lot being the tough hit ups on his own line. It's a myth he doesn't do the tough stuff.

We have better though. More to come too

 

[franklin2323]

I'm happy with Mansour. If he's worse than Sivo there's not that much in it. It swings heavily the other way without the benefit of hindsight.

Mansour looks worse because Naden can't pass

 

[OldPanther]

We have better though. More to come too

That's a big claim for the equal leading try scorer at NRL level who creates a lot of his own tries.

 

[franklin2323]

That's a big claim for the equal leading try scorer at NRL level who creates a lot of his own tries.

He has 16 from 18 games.
Naden has 8 from 9. With another 5-6 bombed.
Their wingers see the ball in attack ours don't if we change that To'o will score more career tries than Sivo

 

[Fangs]

He has 16 from 18 games.
Naden has 8 from 9. With another 5-6 bombed.
Their wingers see the ball in attack ours don't if we change that To'o will score more career tries than Sivo

Parra suck, but their attack is about x20 our own.

Cleary has gone one step in the right direction. The Broncos will be very wary of him running next weekend and that changes everything. That may be enough to free up some space out wide.

 

[franklin2323]

Parra suck, but their attack is about x20 our own.

Cleary has gone one step in the right direction. The Broncos will be very wary of him running next weekend and that changes everything. That may be enough to free up some space out wide.

Our attack is now where it should of been to start the season. So far behind the 8 ball but To'o will score more tries than Sivo will over his career. Just need the halves to realise we can go wider than the backrowers

 

[OldPanther]

Our attack is now where it should of been to start the season. So well behind the 8 ball but To'o will score more tries than Sivo will over his career

I doubt that.

 

[franklin2323]

I doubt that.

One is 25 one is 20 for starters. Our attack has much more room to grow also.

 

[OldPanther]

One is 25 one is 20 for starters. Our attack has much more room to grow also.

The fact he is better at creating his own tries helps him. Our attack has room to grow but doesn't mean it will. Did you see the stats @herbert henry1908 put up about Ivan's teams?

 

[franklin2323]

The fact he is better at creating his own tries helps him. Our attack has room to grow but doesn't mean it will. Did you see the stats @herbert henry1908 put up about Ivan's teams?

I have seen them. I think Barrett or Brennan comes back as attack coach. Nathan being in the team I think will see that attack gets better.

 

[herbert henry1908]

One is 25 one is 20 for starters. Our attack has much more room to grow also.

Overall To'o might score tries, but he might struggle to reach the peaks Sivo can. He's on track for 20+ tries this season, that's pretty rare air. Someone like Sivo can create their own try, he's a pretty unique talent attack wise. Wingers like him don't come along often.

 

[franklin2323]

Overall To'o might score tries, but he might struggle to reach the peaks Sivo can. He's on track for 20+ tries this season, that's pretty rare air. Someone like Sivo can create their own try, he's a pretty unique talent attack wise. Wingers like him don't come along often.

To'o is 5 years younger. You'd think by the time they both end their careers in that 5 years To'o overtakes him.

For how we use our wingers both ours ave more metres a game so in the short term until we get a game plan to match he is doing what we need

 

[herbert henry1908]

To'o is 5 years younger. You'd think by the time they both end their careers in that 5 years To'o overtakes him.

For how we use our wingers both ours ave more metres a game so in the short term until we get a game plan to match he is doing what we need

That’s a bit of a false choice, though.

I’d rather a winger who could score 20 tries a season for 4-5 years. Sivo’s age is pretty irrelevant for mine.

But we could’ve had both of them anyway. That’s the real shame.

also, when you have someone like Sivo, you change your game plan to get him involved.

 

[OldPanther]

To'o is 5 years younger. You'd think by the time they both end their careers in that 5 years To'o overtakes him.

For how we use our wingers both ours ave more metres a game so in the short term until we get a game plan to match he is doing what we need

We could've had both though.

 

[franklin2323]

That’s a bit of a false choice, though.

I’d rather a winger who could score 20 tries a season for 4-5 years. Sivo’s age is pretty irrelevant for mine.

But we could’ve had both of them anyway. That’s the real shame.

also, when you have someone like Sivo, you change your game plan to get him involved.

I know I am critical of Gus but in this case who is going to choose an unproven 25 year old. Over a 20 year old that can tick all the boxes you need.

 

[franklin2323]

We could've had both though.

Who misses out then? It was a case of 1 development deal to decide between 2 guys

 

[OldPanther]

Who misses out then? It was a case of 1 development deal to decide between 2 guys

We should've let Mansour go when he re-signed last. It's not good for nostalgia but it was necessary.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I know I am critical of Gus but in this case who is going to choose an unproven 25 year old. Over a 20 year old that can tick all the boxes you need.

That isn’t what happened, though. To’o wasn’t in the top 30 at the start of the season. We could’ve had them both at the club this year. In fact we brought in MWZ from the tigers, Gus didn’t think To’o was ready for the top 30.

I would’ve had Sivo in our top 30 in a heartbeat. It was a no risk situation, with heaps of upside. Big miscalculation by the club to let him go. Guys of his physicality come along very rarely.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Who misses out then? It was a case of 1 development deal to decide between 2 guys

No. They could’ve given one a top 30 spot and another a development deal. Instead we brought in MWZ ‍

There wasn’t a single young winger in the squad at the start of the season. All experienced/journeymen guys.