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Vee

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After FT in the Wahs Tigers game, Vossy said as he went to a break, "Parramatta and Melbourne, Cameron Munster is back, live right here on THE HOME OF RUGBY LEAGUE"

A couple of points
1. I have no problem with the claim given how badly Nein have treated RL over decades.
2. Is there copyright law or similar preventing them using the phrase that Nein claimed?
3. Did Fox get their lawyers to look at that and decide to roll the dice?
 

Meth

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I suppose not.

The beef between Channel 9 and Fox is pretty intense at the moment.
 

nrlnrl

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After FT in the Wahs Tigers game, Vossy said as he went to a break, "Parramatta and Melbourne, Cameron Munster is back, live right here on THE HOME OF RUGBY LEAGUE"

A couple of points
1. I have no problem with the claim given how badly Nein have treated RL over decades.
2. Is there copyright law or similar preventing them using the phrase that Nein claimed?
3. Did Fox get their lawyers to look at that and decide to roll the dice?
Plenty of channels claim to be ‘your/the home of ???’ Without having any right copyright/patent.

Anyway, Channel 9 is more of a granny flat - only show 3 games out of 8 most weeks. (I know that changes with shorter rounds during SOO & over the final 5 rounds with 1 extra game on Saturdays, but Fox League/Sports wins.
 
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I suppose not.

The beef between Channel 9 and Fox is pretty intense at the moment.

Nein is probably unhappy that Fox is willing to invest more to support the NRL (like in the case of the Dolphins). Whereas Nein’s modus operandi is to invest as little as possible (how else do you explain Matt Thompson?) while devaluing our game as much as possible.
 

nrlnrl

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It seems most people have over reacted (like the ABC website, other media & some fans - not Captain Apollo who mentioned ‘if’). The Daily Telegraph article said News Corp was ‘evaluating options’. Anyway, it’s not as though any possible sale would be completed like a used car by 5pm today (or even by Monday).

As fans not involved in the media, let’s just wait & see how it plays out - who knows if there’s even a sale or how long any possible sale takes to finalise etc.
 
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An interesting article published earlier this week by Crikey about the issues surrounding the possible sale of Foxtel (source: https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/14/foxtel-news-corp-murdoch-sale-trademarks/) -

What’s in a name? The sale of Foxtel isn’t quite as simple as it seems

Glenn Dyer GLENN DYER Business and Media Correspondent
A Foxtel billboard at an A-League match (Image: AAP/David Gray) A Foxtel billboard at an A-League match (Image: AAP/David Gray)

Foxtel's potential new owners might be forced to change the company's name to avoid allowing the Murdochs some continued control.

News Corp may be putting its 65% of Foxtel on the market but does News actually control the pay-TV group, or does another part of the empire, Fox Corp, really have a substantial interest in Foxtel?

News Corp appoints the CEO and board of the company and has bailed out Foxtel over the years with loans totalling hundreds of millions of dollars. But unless Foxtel changes its name completely once in new hands, the Murdochs will retain a major interest. The family’s other media company, Fox Corp, controls the Fox name and licences it to Foxtel.

Fox has four namesake trademark agreements with Foxtel (linked to on page 126 of this filing with the US Securities and Exchange Commission). This one, for example, is between Fox Media LLC and Fox Sports Australia Pty Ltd, and is one of the two agreements covering Fox Sports. The other two cover Fox and Foxtel management. Each of the agreements list all the marks — the domain names or trademarks — covered by the agreement, their cost (which is hard to work out — there is a figure of $10 mentioned in one of the agreements), as well as the rules under which the marks are licensed.

The agreements each say “The licensor (Fox Media) is the owner and registered proprietor of the Fox marks.” Fox Media is based in Delaware, like Fox Corp and News Corp.

The deals also cover “content services” — those that make available, on a subscription basis only, TV programmes (this does not include free-to-air television).

The agreements were first entered into in 2013 when the old News Corp was split into News Corp and 21st Century Fox, which in turn became Fox Corp after the Disney deal was done to hive off the company’s movie studios in 2019. All the agreements were amended in February 2022.

The deals give substantial control to Fox Media and Fox Corp, and the licensor will retain “all goodwill associated therewith and all rights relating thereto” the Fox marks. The deals also provide that “the licensor may terminate this agreement on giving six months’ notice in writing to the licensee in the event that:

(a) the equity share held by the News Corporation Limited (now called News Australia Pty Limited) or its affiliates in the licensee falls below 25%; or
(b) The News Corporation Limited (now called News Australia Pty Limited) ceases to have the right to nominate the Chief Executive Officer of the licensee, except by reason of a listing of the licensee on the Australian Stock Exchange.”

A new owner of Foxtel will thus have to give up the name and whatever value is left in it, or continue to allow the Murdochs a say in key aspects of the business — or pay them to give up that control.
 

Generalzod

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Looks like the NRL might be able to get News Ltd out of its media rights for good if this happens.
Looks like they have to pay alot for defamation....Maybe the rights to hold both the NRL and AFL rights has become to expensive.
 

nrlnrl

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I like the balance of studio & at the ground presence (Often early Friday & Sunday Ticket early game, always with Super Saturday's game). Being in studio allows better coverage when they have a few games on, rather than being stuck at 1 venue.
 
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The Fox panel on the NRLW Grand Final sounded like a Cronulla Sharks cheer squad. I don't have a problem with opinions about who will win, but when you a team is down 24-0 at halftime, banging on about them at halftime, and then carrying on at fulltime about how well they played, drove me barmy. Based on what was being said, you'd have thought only one team was playing.
 

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