The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Diesel]

When V’landys finishes with the NSW Govt, I hope he turns his attention to 9 so get earlier start times for night games. 8:05pm on a Thursday doesn’t fill stadiums

 

[Vee]

The Gabba is basically being rebuilt for the Olympics, Big events want to be at 50k venues.

So Accor either needs to be modernised or lose the events to the other states given new SFS is only 45k

So, no plan yet?

 

[The Great Dane]

He got the narrative very wrong in his argument, calling the Govt untrustworthy (doh!), accusing them of using the flood victims, then playing thew "think about the children' card saying these stadiums would benefit kids health, then attacks the stadium they have built, people are just laughing at him.

It's typical bull in a china shop Vlandys, ended up in court with NSWRL and this doesn't look like its going to have a good outcome for the game either with Govt or the public. Diplomat he is not.

Yeah his interview with the media was the biggest mistake in all this. Massive PR disaster that made him, and the sport, look like fools.

What he should have done is just laid out the events as they happened as concisely as possible, going through all the previous deals and what they entailed briefly, while emphasizing all the compromises the sport has already made. Then let the cards fall as they may.

If he's smart he'll stop engaging at this point, and get about setting out some rules and minimum standards to host the GF, then start the process of selling the hosting rights to the GF on a yearly basis. Should probably lock NSW out of bidding for them for an extended period as well.
He's not that smart though, he'll probably just sell them to Qld for the better part of a decade to spite NSW, without even considering other offers or the potential of having the GF as an event that moves annually.

 

[Vee]

Have the NSW government breached an actual contract here? The only thing I have read about is a handshake deal which has been modified in terms of a staged approach as opposed to a literal contract that says Sydney hosts the GF going forward.

I think the GF was contingent on the SA upgrade.

 

[Wb1234]

And the NRL could match that by saving $15 million of their own money. Set up an 'infrastructure budget portfolio', where the NRL could fund $30 million per year on suburban grounds and do the upgrades in stages.

Yep the nrl

utter crap
we've been screwed as a sport by successive govts for 35 years on stadia going back to the old SFS

stuff who knows
the NRL has a right to a time line ...
As if there haven't been floods before or teachers on strike , nah
enough excuses & delays ... answers please you four eyed dip stick ... or else

gws got over 100 million spent on grounds for them no one batted an eye lid

the scg had new stands built

combank got done more so for wsw

the sfs got redone as it was for the scg trust it’s way too big for the rugby league games there

 

[Iamback]

So, no plan yet?

Well there was money put towards a feasibility study for a roof. Whether it is scraped or not is the question

 

[YoHadrian]

Vlandy's is a fair dinkum embarrassing sook. I hope Dom calls his bluff & tells him to GFY.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Vlandys has screwed this up big time.. now we get no suburban grounds and no improlvement to Accor, as he has called it a dog of a stadium..

How long till accor has orange seats PVL ?

 

[Perth Red]

And people wonder why nrl struggles with govt funding compared to other codes! Having said that nsw does seem a special place where the govt doesn’t actually care about its main sport, unlike all the other states.

 

[MugaB]

Awating blow up here via @TheRam

Geez a lot of PVL haters here past few days
I don't think he has fkd up, if anything this is a win/win situation, makes the govt look like fkwits for not seeing thru with the plan, remember there are a shitton of infrastructure jobs that become of all these upgrades and new stadia, so the NSW govt are fking them over, along with whoever else they seem to be shitting on... currently teachers, nurses and transport... PVL has every right to demand answers, and if its all heresay, take the GF to Perth, Melbourne, Brisbane or better yet Auckland for those League fans who have missed out on regular RL matches these past 2 years... and make that host city pay up, do that every year, and watch the average punter crack the shits at perrotte, as PVL keeps on explaining why Sydney isn't getting the biggest game of the year... then start saving all that cash and use it to fix up these suburbian grounds for the next 3 seasons, till dominic gets booted out of office, PVL will return the GF as a thank you to the NSW punters, after the govt realizes not to undermine or underestimate Rugba Leig at its own peril

 

[MugaB]

And people wonder why nrl struggles with govt funding compared to other codes! Having said that nsw does seem a special place where the govt doesn’t actually care about its main sport, unlike all the other states.

NSW govt is fkd....
Ive lived in sydney my whole life, the govt is all about bumping their own salary, and taxing us moreso, but can't fix a fkn pothole, or has slackarse roadworks everywhere, to slow you down, like seriously, my mum live up in SEQ and the govt tends to all that stuff straight away, for a city that so laid back, brisbane or qld in general are right on in regards to public service, my sister lives in Brissy, says the roads are spot on, barely a few days before potholes or random roadwork ever gets in the way, takes sydney a month, to get shit done... and dont start me on public transport... each NRL club in QLD has a state of the art stadium, shows you the difference in the way all our states behave

 

[Perth Red]

Except the public tide is against Vlandys so far, he’s come across as petulant and selfish. He’s never winning a battle for justifying the funding when the govt says it’s going to people in greater need. He compounded it with the gf threat, getting Sydney rl fans that might have been behind him offside, and it’s interesting to see how quickly he is backtracking on that already. Threatening to take the gf elsewhere looks a cash grab to your avg sydney fan, he could have at least justified it with what the nrl would use the extra money for. Then to top it all he made himself sound stupid by bringing childrens health into the debate!
I learnt a long time ago from a seasoned campaigner that arguments with the govt are best had behind closed doors.

 

[MugaB]

Except the public tide is against Vlandys so far, he’s come across as petulant and selfish. He’s never winning a battle for justifying the funding when the govt says it’s going to people in greater need. He compounded it with the gf threat, getting Sydney rl fans that might have been behind him offside, and it’s interesting to see how quickly he is backtracking on that already. Threatening to take the gf elsewhere looks a cash grab to your avg sydney fan, he could have at least justified it with what the nrl would use the extra money for. Then to top it all he made himself sound stupid by bringing childrens health into the debate!

All garbage, as if its ALL going to the flood victims, its been budgeted, by the very same guy who was the treasurer, when Gladys signed the Accor 800 mill refurbishment,
Its a small percentage of the $2 billion the government are spending on stadia, they are just reneging, and using the flood victims as an excuse, they'll be paying the flood victims regardless, its all spin and trying to use guilt as a tool, and you being the PVL hater you are, have been eating this media circus up... i hope PVL and the ARLC take the GF on the road, Optus stadium or NZ should get 1st crack at it, make that game the superbowl event, sydney can hold the rest of the finals

 

[Iamback]

Sydney firms to host NRL grand final ahead of ARL Commission meeting

The majority of ARL commissioners think it’s too close to this year’s grand final for the NRL to commit to a Brisbane decider, but not all representatives feel that way.

www.smh.com.au

As predicted this year will stay in Sydney, Right decision allows it to go to tender next year.

Interesting the poll attached from 18100. 91% back the Govt here

 

[Iamback]

All garbage, as if its ALL going to the flood victims, its been budgeted, by the very same guy who was the treasurer, when Gladys signed the Accor 800 mill refurbishment,
Its a small percentage of the $2 billion the government are spending, they are reneging, and using the flood victims as an excuse, they'll be paying the victims regardless, its all spin and trying to use guilt as a tool, and you being the PVL hater you are, have been eating this media circus up... i hope PVL and the ARLC take the GF on the road, Optus stadium or NZ should get 1st crack at it, make that game the superbowl event, sydney can hold the rest of the finals

Having it a different place every year won't work. Likely someone gets it for multiple years as it brings stability for Sponsors, Fans and all involved

 

[Perth Red]

NSW govt is fkd....
Ive lived in sydney my whole life, the govt is all about bumping their own salary, and taxing us moreso, but can't fix a fkn pothole, or has slackarse roadworks everywhere, to slow you down, like seriously, my mum live up in SEQ and the govt tends to all that stuff straight away, for a city that so laid back, brisbane or qld in general are right on in regards to public service, my sister lives in Brissy, says the roads are spot on, barely a few days before potholes or random roadwork ever gets in the way, takes sydney a month, to get shit done... and dont start me on public transport... each NRL club has a state of the art stadium, shows you the difference in the way all our states behave

when I was there few weeks ago and hired a car to get to Wollongong I was amazed at the potholes, like being back in England!! Haven't see a pothole since I moved to Perth lol.

 

[Perth Red]

All garbage, as if its ALL going to the flood victims, its been budgeted, by the very same guy who was the treasurer, when Gladys signed the Accor 800 mill refurbishment,
Its a small percentage of the $2 billion the government are spending on stadia, they are just reneging, and using the flood victims as an excuse, they'll be paying the flood victims regardless, its all spin and trying to use guilt as a tool, and you being the PVL hater you are, have been eating this media circus up... i hope PVL and the ARLC take the GF on the road, Optus stadium or NZ should get 1st crack at it, make that game the superbowl event, sydney can hold the rest of the finals

of course it is, but the public sentiment I have seen so far is very much not with Vlandys! Its very hard to argue against the govt saying what they are saying, and it doesnt come across well. It has also painted them into a corner now as they cant move on it as they would look like they are taking money from flood victims! Its a dumb strategy and typical Vlandys.

 

[MugaB]

Having it a different place every year won't work. Likely someone gets it for multiple years as it brings stability for Sponsors, Fans and all involved

No difference really, GF at suncorp last year made no difference.... Origin in Perth no difference, Magic round in Auckland, now Brissy... im not seeing a problem, Sydney doesn't deserve to have it right now, as it doesn't look after its clubs or stadia, its going cheap and trying to push all clubs to Commbank, Accor, or the new SFS, forget suburbian grounds, nswgovt couldn't give a shit, it would prefer to bump its own politicians salary

 

[Frailty]

When V’landys finishes with the NSW Govt, I hope he turns his attention to 9 so get earlier start times for night games. 8:05pm on a Thursday doesn’t fill stadiums

You mean the same 9 that V'Landys gave a discount to due to "COVID" only to have them then go buy the Rugby rights?

 

[Perth Red]

No difference really, GF at suncorp last year made no difference.... Origin in Perth no difference, Magic round in Auckland, now Brissy... im not seeing a problem, Sydney doesn't deserve to have it right now, as it doesn't look after its clubs or stadia, its going cheap and trying to push all clubs to Commbank, Accor, or the new SFS, forget suburbian grounds, nswgovt couldn't give a shit, it would prefer to bump its own politicians salary

I doubt the NSW govt ever thought tarting up suburban dumps owned by councils or private owners was a good spend, Vlandys gave them an out on the accor spend, they took it then played him like a fiddle.