The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[taipan]

My poor experiences of anz had nothing to do with the rake of the seats. It was so empty I could sit as close as I liked. Be very interested to see if the curtaining idea actually creates a more intimate stadium with a better atmosphere, if it doesn't then it will still feel a desolate spot that will not be appealing to fans to attend.

Scheduling won't make much difference unless they give the plum time spots to the tenant clubs and I can see the uproar from other clubs if that happens.

LOL My poor experiences initially at Shark Park when there was on one stand,became much better when there were two stands and then three stands.It's called updating.The crowds improved also.Just saying.

Does it actually sink in.The ground is not rectangularly configured at present, it seats 83,000 plus.The seating will be reduced, the stadium made rectangular,and I suggest more people under cover.
It's less to do with the rake of the seats, but more to do with bringing the action on the field closer to the fans in a modern stadium.People prefer atmosphere,comfort,timeslots and ability to get to a stadium at reasonable hours,

So scheduling an Eels v Tigers game on a Thursday night or 8 pm Friday ,will get about the same as a scheduled match in a new stadium at the same times.

Tell the state Govt to stop the funds, stop the boats,PR(the Fremantle Doctor0 has spoken for the NRL fans of Sydney.Bring all NRL games to Perff ,we'll fill the stadium ten times over.

The clubs may well whinge, but they will whinge a lot less than they do now,beacue Nein controls the scheduling for the majors.

You whine, before anything is up and operating.If you were around in 1930 ,you would have whinged about the Sydney Harbour Bridge being built,becaue there were b*gger all cars to use it.

 

[carcharias]

PR Will be disappointed.

The fans of Perth have already made it crystal clear what they think of watching footy in similar conditions to every other fan of every other club.

 

[Captain Apollo]

There comes a point when:

The NRL puts their hand in it's pocket and pay for grounds. They also need to address the lack of crowd, hence lack of revenue issue.

The clubs put their hands in their pockets and pay for their grounds. They also need to address the lack of crowd, hence lack of revenue issue.

The tax and rate payers say enough is enough. How many stadiums do you want in Sydney?

Considering that most of the stadiums in Sydney are owned by the NSW Government or local councils why should the clubs or the NRL spend $1 on any ground? Fact is, by the way, they can't do anything to a ground without the owners consent, and any changes to the ground become the property of the owner. Hence it makes no economic sense for them to do so especially as they have no say in the management of said grounds and are rarely ever the sole tenants.

The problem with many of the grounds is that they are owned by local councils who, predominantly, have spent little on maintenance on them. It is why Leichhardt (for example) is a ground which has facilities which haven't changed much since I first went there in the 1970s. Instead of using at least part of the rent money to maintain the ground, many councils diverted all the rent monies into other areas at varying times, which has lead to a decline in the grounds facilities.

I dare say that is why the current NSW Government have said they will only fund the stadiums which they own as they are fed up with council cost shifting and then expecting them to foot the bill to upgrade Council stadia.

 

[El Diablo]

2019 the new parra will average 20k+ a game and look great on tv

why won't you ever be going to games?

 

[Suitman]

Broken record El D.
f**king boring.

 

[El Diablo]

don't blame me

he keeps getting asked and he never answers

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...z/news-story/cea93103f963b11e08ac9c05be934d35

Fears that stadium funding could be reallocated to Allianz

• The Australian
• 12:00AM June 17, 2017
• Brent Read

The NSW public won’t be the only people keeping a close eye on next week’s state budget.

A smattering of club officials, the NRL and powerbrokers from the city’s major stadiums are expected to monitor the allocation of funds as the state government closes in on finalising the share of $1.6 billion that has been earmarked for improving facilities for football clubs.

The expectation was that the lion’s share of that money would be directed to ANZ Stadium to turn the venue into a rectangular ground with potentially a roof.

There is a growing fear among some in the game that the money will be reallocated, with Allianz Stadium to receive a greater proportion to ensure that ground is given the kiss of life.

The state government could provide the answers as early as next week and the repercussions will be significant for rugby league given five clubs use ANZ Stadium on a full-time or permanent basis.

One of those — Parramatta — will have their own freshly minted ground from 2019. The remaining quartet are waiting to hear the decision of the state government.

All were given the opportunity to present their cases to the state government as part of the NRL’s negotiations over the stadium strategy and have been patiently waiting to hear the outcome.

Much is at stake, although the greater issue could be exactly how the state government goes about refurbishing ANZ Stadium.

Should they opt to shut down the ground — as has been mooted in some quarters — it would mean South Sydney, Canterbury and, to a lesser extent, St George Illawarra and Wests Tigers, would be displaced for up to two years.

Souths have been linked with a short-term move to Allianz Stadium, although they could also explore the possibility of playing at the new Parramatta Stadium, given many of their supporters now reside in the west of Sydney.

Canterbury and the Tigers would also be likely to switch their home games to Parramatta Stadium, giving them access to a state-of-the-art venue with a boutique feel. Parramatta Stadium clearly shapes as the big winner as the final decision on stadium investment approaches.

The final decision will also impact on the NRL. As part of the state government’s pledge to invest in stadiums, Sydney was granted the grand final for the next two decades.

It is understood that decision has left a $4 million hole in the NRL budget because the state government no longer pays for the right to host the event.

 

[El Diablo]

don't be surprised if they divert money to GWS too seeing they want their 5 year old ground upgraded already

Increasing capacity of Spotless Stadium to 35,000 in pipeline so fans won’t be turned away

 

[beave]

Was trouting around the new NQ stadium website, a new pic I hadn't seen before looking in from the northern end

Cannot wait for this!!!

 

[Suitman]

don't blame me

he keeps getting asked and he never answers

Fair point.

 

[big hit!]

My poor experiences of anz had nothing to do with the rake of the seats. It was so empty I could sit as close as I liked. Be very interested to see if the curtaining idea actually creates a more intimate stadium with a better atmosphere, if it doesn't then it will still feel a desolate spot that will not be appealing to fans to attend.

Scheduling won't make much difference unless they give the plum time spots to the tenant clubs and I can see the uproar from other clubs if that happens.

rake has got plenty to do with the shit atmosphere at several Australian all-seater stadiums, as well as general distance from field of play.

how to do it right with capacity a tick under 70k. Krestovsky Stadium in St Petersburg, Russia. not a bad seat in the house!

 

[Perth Red]

Not saying it won't be better but will it really make a significant difference for your avg club game? Souths might have got 10k instead of 7k last night! Stadium this size and scale just feels sht with less than 30-40k in it regardless of the view from the seat. Walking around the shut up concours of anz with 10k people in it is depressing. Clubs need to be playing games in stadiums where they can attract fans and where 20k is going to create a great experience. No amount of reconfiguring anz is going to achieve this.

 

[Panfas]

$5.41M has been allocated in this weeks NSW Government budget for 'WIN Stadium Northern Grandstand rectification works'

http://myinfrastructure.planning.nsw.gov.au/project/652?table=true


$5.4 million in 2017-18 to repair the Northern Grandstand at WIN stadium in Wollongong, to ensure public safety and the continued use of the stand for events

https://www.budget.nsw.gov.au/supporting-our-regions/regional-nsw/illawarra-shoalhaven

 

[Panfas]

Also $660k for 'Synthetic Turf - Allianz Stadium Field of Play'

http://myinfrastructure.planning.nsw.gov.au/project/558?table=true

 

[Prometheus]

$5.41M has been allocated in this weeks NSW Government budget for 'WIN Stadium Northern Grandstand rectification works'

http://myinfrastructure.planning.nsw.gov.au/project/652?table=true


$5.4 million in 2017-18 to repair the Northern Grandstand at WIN stadium in Wollongong, to ensure public safety and the continued use of the stand for events

https://www.budget.nsw.gov.au/supporting-our-regions/regional-nsw/illawarra-shoalhaven

Has anybody heard anything before now about there being any problems with the Northern stand?

It's not even that old.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...z/news-story/cea93103f963b11e08ac9c05be934d35

Fears that stadium funding could be reallocated to Allianz

• The Australian
• 12:00AM June 17, 2017
• Brent Read

The NSW public won’t be the only people keeping a close eye on next week’s state budget.

A smattering of club officials, the NRL and powerbrokers from the city’s major stadiums are expected to monitor the allocation of funds as the state government closes in on finalising the share of $1.6 billion that has been earmarked for improving facilities for football clubs.

The expectation was that the lion’s share of that money would be directed to ANZ Stadium to turn the venue into a rectangular ground with potentially a roof.

There is a growing fear among some in the game that the money will be reallocated, with Allianz Stadium to receive a greater proportion to ensure that ground is given the kiss of life.

The state government could provide the answers as early as next week and the repercussions will be significant for rugby league given five clubs use ANZ Stadium on a full-time or permanent basis.

One of those — Parramatta — will have their own freshly minted ground from 2019. The remaining quartet are waiting to hear the decision of the state government.

All were given the opportunity to present their cases to the state government as part of the NRL’s negotiations over the stadium strategy and have been patiently waiting to hear the outcome.

Much is at stake, although the greater issue could be exactly how the state government goes about refurbishing ANZ Stadium.

Should they opt to shut down the ground — as has been mooted in some quarters — it would mean South Sydney, Canterbury and, to a lesser extent, St George Illawarra and Wests Tigers, would be displaced for up to two years.

Souths have been linked with a short-term move to Allianz Stadium, although they could also explore the possibility of playing at the new Parramatta Stadium, given many of their supporters now reside in the west of Sydney.

Canterbury and the Tigers would also be likely to switch their home games to Parramatta Stadium, giving them access to a state-of-the-art venue with a boutique feel. Parramatta Stadium clearly shapes as the big winner as the final decision on stadium investment approaches.

The final decision will also impact on the NRL. As part of the state government’s pledge to invest in stadiums, Sydney was granted the grand final for the next two decades.

It is understood that decision has left a $4 million hole in the NRL budget because the state government no longer pays for the right to host the event.

If Toddles capitulates and allows the gov to move funding away from ANZ, the West sydney clubs should f*cking riot!!

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

don't be surprised if they divert money to GWS too seeing they want their 5 year old ground upgraded already

Increasing capacity of Spotless Stadium to 35,000 in pipeline so fans won’t be turned away

Pfft, if the stadium fills up, it will just be melbourne people travelling...

Play in at the SCG for all they will care.

 

[Suitman]

Pfft, if the stadium fills up, it will just be melbourne people travelling...

Play in at the SCG for all they will care.

Exactly.
Spotless does not need to have any more money wasted on it for GWS, who barely ever fill it to a third of capacity, the Wanderers who will be out of there in two seasons anyway, and the Big Bash who play what - 4/5 games a year there?
I'd rather those sort of funds get diverted to upgrading shitholes like Brookvale.

 

[President Trump]

NSW Govt should give Shark Park $100m to be upgraded as a major NRL stadium for the south of Sydney with a capacity of 25k.

 

[Perth Red]

NSW Govt should give Shark Park $100m to be upgraded as a major NRL stadium for the south of Sydney with a capacity of 25k.

Sharks would have to be willing to hand over a long term lease to the govt for that to happen.