The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It’s not my problem you don’t know how to make comparisons or understand context.

Is Sydney the most lucrative region in the country in the same way as Buenos Aires and Tokyo are in those countries? Yes/no?

If Sydney is the most lucrative region in the country, it would be only slightly ahead of say Melbourne, whilst there are also lucrative markets in Brisbane and Perth. This wouldn’t warrant under normal circumstances having more than half of the teams in a competition wherein you don’t have such a corporate monopoly as Tokyo or Buenos Aires.

Also in those examples, you don’t have the amount of competition between sports. For example soccer would get the majority of the corporate spend, much more than say League in Sydney or Brisbane. Again this doesn’t help your argument. League has to compete with a multitude of other sports which means they are competing for that corporate dollar

Lastly, putting in another Sydney team when half the teams are surviving mainly because of the grant they receive would be beyond idiotic. Putting in another NSW team would be the same.

Sydney is the most lucrative market, but it's not head and shoulders bigger than Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth. It's definitely not in the same league as Tokyo or London. The Broncos wouldn't be the largest and most lucrative rugby league club in the world by such a ridiculously large margin if Sydney was anywhere as rich and prestigious as Pippen94 is making out.

I don't doubt that Sydney should have more clubs than any other city. I question the lunacy of having nine teams in Sydney when all metrics prove it cannot support them. Six or seven is something that might be sustainable.

I question the lunacy of PVL wanting another three grounds to be upgraded when most Sydney clubs don't have a large enough fanbase to make use of them because they represent small regions. I hate to say it, but PVL is making us look like ungrateful brats and it's turning the public against our game.

If PVL cares about the game he'll lobby Albanese to build a new stadium for Canberra and add a grandstand to the eastern terrace of Wollongong Stadium. Then he'll negotiate with McGowan to upgrade Perth Oval in exchange for the Pirates getting the 18th licence.

 

[Perth Red]

Parra playing at parra is not bulldogs playing at parra. Numbers show that

Moving into a state of the art stadium from a run down ground boosts crowds. Proven.
once again LO avg 13.8k, Campbelltown 11k, both sht corporate facilities. Is that really what you are arguing for? Really?

 

[Pippen94]

It’s not my problem you don’t know how to make comparisons or understand context.

Is Sydney the most lucrative region in the country in the same way as Buenos Aires and Tokyo are in those countries? Yes/no?

If Sydney is the most lucrative region in the country, it would be only slightly ahead of say Melbourne, whilst there are also lucrative markets in Brisbane and Perth. This wouldn’t warrant under normal circumstances having more than half of the teams in a competition wherein you don’t have such a corporate monopoly as Tokyo or Buenos Aires.

Also in those examples, you don’t have the amount of competition between sports. For example soccer would get the majority of the corporate spend, much more than say League in Sydney or Brisbane. Again this doesn’t help your argument. League has to compete with a multitude of other sports which means they are competing for that corporate dollar

Lastly, putting in another Sydney team when half the teams are surviving mainly because of the grant they receive would be beyond idiotic. Putting in another NSW team would be the same.

No, Sydney by far most important market. 65% of advertising spent on sydney

 

[Pippen94]

Moving into a state of the art stadium from a run down ground boosts crowds. Proven.
once again LO avg 13.8k, Campbelltown 11k, both sht corporate facilities. Is that really what you are arguing for? Really?

Yeah nah, belmore beats parra or homebush in 2022. Put a new grand stand there & there you go

 

[Pippen94]

Sydney is the most lucrative market, but it's not head and shoulders bigger than Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth. It's definitely not in the same league as Tokyo or London. The Broncos wouldn't be the largest and most lucrative rugby league club in the world by such a ridiculously large margin if Sydney was anywhere as rich and prestigious as Pippen94 is making out.

I don't doubt that Sydney should have more clubs than any other city. I question the lunacy of having nine teams in Sydney when all metrics prove it cannot support them. Six or seven is something that might be sustainable.

I question the lunacy of PVL wanting another three grounds to be upgraded when most Sydney clubs don't have a large enough fanbase to make use of them because they represent small regions. I hate to say it, but PVL is making us look like ungrateful brats and it's turning the public against our game.

If PVL cares about the game he'll lobby Albanese to build a new stadium for Canberra and add a grandstand to the eastern terrace of Wollongong Stadium. Then he'll negotiate with McGowan to upgrade Perth Oval in exchange for the Pirates getting the 18th licence.

If Canberra & Wollongong become focus game us in trouble

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

No, Sydney by far most important market. 65% of advertising spent on sydney

If that's true then why do the Broncos, Cowboys and Storm generate more money from their sponsorship than the Sydney clubs?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

If Canberra & Wollongong become focus game us in trouble

Who said Canberra and Wollongong should be the focus of the game?

We should be pushing for all clubs to have world class facilities.

Sydney now has two brand new stadia and a large older one that is fine for the GF and Origin. It's now time to get Canberra and Wollongong up to scratch so our game doesn't look second rate.

 

[Tiger Shark]

Sharks need to drop back to NSW Cup with there 4th division ground an hand there juniors back to the mighty Dragons.

That’s a long way to drop all the way from second place. Wonder what happens to our NSW cup team that just got the minor premiership today also.

 

[westerntiger]

Then he'll negotiate with McGowan to upgrade Perth Oval in exchange for the Pirates getting the 18th licence.

I thought the Perth ground was pretty good why does it need another upgrade?

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Its only 20 minutes, i have done it a few times for Shute Shield matches over the years.

That’s what I thought

 

[Perth Red]

I thought the Perth ground was pretty good why does it need another upgrade?

It needs the west stand replacing to finish it off and get it up to 25k with modern corporate facilities.

 

[westerntiger]

I'm no Souths fan but the Roosters are acting like the absolute scum of the league at the moment over Allianz.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tu...ccess-to-allianz-stadium-20220827-p5bd6f.html

Seriously what is wrong with the NSW government they've just spend $800m on the new stadium and they're blocking someone who wants to use it...

 

[Valheru]

I'm no Souths fan but the Roosters are acting like the absolute scum of the league at the moment over Allianz.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tu...ccess-to-allianz-stadium-20220827-p5bd6f.html

Seriously what is wrong with the NSW government they've just spend $800m on the new stadium and they're blocking someone who wants to use it...

The key takeaway from that article is Bob McCarthy needs a HIA immediately

 

[Ozzi_78]

Anyone check the table this morning?

 

[Smug Panther]

Anyone check the table this morning?

See you in the GF

 

[Ozzi_78]

See you in the GF

I’d take it. What a first year from the rookie coach.

 

[grozzy]

I'm no Souths fan but the Roosters are acting like the absolute scum of the league at the moment over Allianz.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tu...ccess-to-allianz-stadium-20220827-p5bd6f.html

Seriously what is wrong with the NSW government they've just spend $800m on the new stadium and they're blocking someone who wants to use it...

Have South's shown any interest before now? It's like a kid seeing his brother with a brand new toy and expecting it to be shared immediately.
Maybe they should spend some time playing at SCG first

 

[Colk]

Yeah nah, belmore beats parra or homebush in 2022. Put a new grand stand there & there you go

Yeah they have played 1 game.

 

[Colk]

No, Sydney by far most important market. 65% of advertising spent on sydney

Evidence

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

I'm no Souths fan but the Roosters are acting like the absolute scum of the league at the moment over Allianz.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tu...ccess-to-allianz-stadium-20220827-p5bd6f.html

Seriously what is wrong with the NSW government they've just spend $800m on the new stadium and they're blocking someone who wants to use it...

Roosters don’t own the ground so aren’t in any position to impose restrictions on ground use, I would’ve thought. Can’t see the Trust, who were tough and shrewd enough negotiating with politicians and getting through tons of backlash to get the stadium approved only to turn soft when dealing with a footy club? It’s a PR piece ahead of the game.