The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Canard]

There have been seasons where the Cowboys and Titans only played once.



How many of them were broadcast on Ch9?

My post specifically mentioned games broadcast on Ch9. You really need to work on your reading comprehension.



They also struggle to draw crowds on a Thursday night, yet the ARLC have scheduled games between the Broncos and Cowboys in Townsville on that night.

NRL Good Friday Game - Wikipedia

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And why is that rigged?

Good to see you admit you were wrong to call the Dogs unviable, by the way.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

And why is that rigged?

Good to see you admit you were wrong to call the Dogs unviable, by the way.

Without gaming machine revenue the Bulldogs wouldn't be able to cover the operating costs of running a team in the NRL.

Don't take my word for it. Go look at their annual reports and the Gemba Report.

In 2019 the Bulldogs generated just $7,832,705 from sponsorship, corporate hospitality, ticketing and membership.

Click to view Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs 2019 Annual Report

On p28 of the Gemba Report it shows a small club needs to generate at least $10,000,000. Larger clubs generate much more.

Click to view Gemba Report

Good thing the Bulldogs Leagues Club bailed them out by giving them $4,855,000.

 

[Munky]

Without gaming machine revenue the Bulldogs wouldn't be able to fcover the operating costs of running a team in the NRL.


Don't take my word for it. Go look at their annual reports and the Gemba Report.

Without a Russian mobster Chelsea wouldn't have been able to cover their costs for fifteen years. Got a nice chunk of debt forgiveness in the sale did they not?

Also Man City and now Newcastle with their Middle Eastern sports washing.

The only way to be a profitable pro sports league across all teams is to act like a cartel with regulatory capture like the US Leagues. Thank f**k our laws wouldn't allow it. Imagine not getting paid for your labour due to a bogus 'scolarship'

 

[MugaB]

You seem to be missing the point. There is a direct and proven correlation between public perceived acceptability and access and increased behaviour. I get people want to argue pokies are not bad and at end of day we all make choices as that’s some nice justification for your clubs main business being gambling not football.
Take a step back and ask what you’d really rather have, a community with less gambling problems or a wealthy leagues club.

anyway I wont derail this stadiums thread any further on the topic, I think you know my thoughts on it by now lol.

Yes please enough with the fkn whitlams song and dance.. society needs less vices... gotcha...
Donkey please fk off, back to the expansion threads you dopey logan potato

 

[Pneuma]

You seem to be missing the point. There is a direct and proven correlation between public perceived acceptability and access and increased behaviour. I get people want to argue pokies are not bad and at end of day we all make choices as that’s some nice justification for your clubs main business being gambling not football.
Take a step back and ask what you’d really rather have, a community with less gambling problems or a wealthy leagues club.

anyway I wont derail this stadiums thread any further on the topic, I think you know my thoughts on it by now lol.

Dickhead

 

[Pneuma]

Yes please enough with the fkn whitlams song and dance.. society needs less vices... gotcha...
Donkey please fk off, back to the expansion threads you dopey logan potato

You missed calling him a judgemental sanctimonious twerp. Lift your game!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Without a Russian mobster Chelsea wouldn't have been able to cover their costs for fifteen years. Got a nice chunk of debt forgiveness in the sale did they not?

Also Man City and now Newcastle with their Middle Eastern sports washing.

The only way to be a profitable pro sports league across all teams is to act like a cartel with regulatory capture like the US Leagues. Thank f**k our laws wouldn't allow it. Imagine not getting paid for your labour due to a bogus 'scolarship'

The concept of Regulatory Capture (Reg Capture) typically refers to a phenomenon that occurs when a regulatory agency that is created to act in the public interest, instead advances the commercial or political concerns of special interest groups that dominate an industry or sector the agency is charged with regulating.

Regulatory Capture

www.cfainstitute.org

Like when the ARLC sent the Sydney Roosters SG Ball squad to represent Australia at the Commonwealth Games RL Nines tournament, despite the fact they lost to the Townsville Stingers in the national championship?

The inferior players from the Roosters cost Australia a gold medal.

Roosters youngsters will represent Australia | Love Rugby League

Sydney Roosters will provide the Australian representation at the Commonwealth Games.

www.loverugbyleague.com

 

[Pneuma]

But pokies!

 

[Munky]

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The concept of Regulatory Capture (Reg Capture) typically refers to a phenomenon that occurs when a regulatory agency that is created to act in the public interest, instead advances the commercial or political concerns of special interest groups that dominate an industry or sector the agency is charged with regulating.​

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Regulatory Capture

www.cfainstitute.org

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Like when the ARLC sent the Sydney Roosters SG Ball squad to represent Australia at the Commonwealth Games RL Nines tournament, despite the fact they lost to the Townsville Stingers in the national championship?

The inferior players from the Roosters cost Australia a gold medal.

Roosters youngsters will represent Australia | Love Rugby League

Sydney Roosters will provide the Australian representation at the Commonwealth Games.

www.loverugbyleague.com

Lol, since when is the ARLC a government body responsible for recommending and enforcing legislation?

Did you have to google regulatory capture and completely misunderstand what you read?

 

[Pneuma]

Lol, since when is the ARLC a government body responsible for recommending and enforcing legislation?

Did you have to google regulatory capture and completely misunderstand what you read?

The lesson being don’t do drugs and google search at the same time?

 

[Jamberoo]

Are you high? Collingwood is the biggest club in Australia and yet it's suburb population is about 8000 people total.

You and @Get Rid of The Donkeys ( who must pull cones constantly) think that a club like the Canterbury Bulldogs only draws support from its LGA.

How f**king high most you be to believe this?

No, I was responding from a post saying that certain clubs could not expand their supporter base due to being ‘hemmed in’ by other clubs. Read my post again, I am saying that that statement was ridiculous. So you agree with me. Good.

 

[Ozzi_78]

So sharks are landlocked in and limited by the geography but those that live there shouldn’t have a life and use the club!! Especially pokies damnit

They should though fork out a shit load of money to buy a membership to watch the local team play at a bigger stadium miles from their geographical home.

That’s how they will succeed everyone. That’s the answer!!!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Lol, since when is the ARLC a government body responsible for recommending and enforcing legislation?

Did you have to google regulatory capture and completely misunderstand what you read?

I was responding to this claim of yours:

The only way to be a profitable pro sports league across all teams is to act like a cartel with regulatory capture like the US Leagues. Thank f**k our laws wouldn't allow it. Imagine not getting paid for your labour due to a bogus 'scolarship'​

The ARLC is based out of Sydney and governs rugby league in Australia. It chose to send the inferior Sydney Roosters SG Ball team to the Commonwealth Games tournament instead of the superior Townsville Stingers, despite the latter defeating the former in the national championship. It is a clear cut example of a governing body using its power to favour its preferred special interest groups.

The NSWRL did the same thing when it gave accommodations to the Knights and Giants while fleecing the Broncos in 1988.

In the early 1990s the NSWRL discriminated against the four expansion sides to give the Sydney clubs a leg up.

Go back to the early 1980s and the ARL and NSWRL discriminated against Queenslanders when it came to selecting players for the Kangaroos.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

No, I was responding from a post saying that certain clubs could not expand their supporter base due to being ‘hemmed in’ by other clubs. Read my post again, I am saying that that statement was ridiculous. So you agree with me. Good.

The argument used by NSWRL fans is we need nine clubs in Sydney because its people are tribalistic and won't support a club from another region.

@Adelaide Shark once said he would not support the Sharks if they relocated to Adelaide because they wouldn't be representing Sutherland. Other Sharks fans opposed any suggestion of changing their name from Cronulla to something more inclusive like "Southern Sydney".

We just had St George-Illawarra fans threaten to stop following the club when its administration toyed with the idea of changing their name.

I've heard Manly fans on here say their club must remain "Manly" because that's its brand.

It's very dishonest to say clubs draw support from all over when Sydney RL fans have threatened to give the game away on the provision their local club adopts a city-wide identity.

If you're going to argue that people can support a team that's based on the other side of the city then there's no reason to have nine teams in Sydney, is there?

Your original post said South Sydney and Melbourne are the only NRL clubs with national appeal and accused the NRL of being the last competition on Earth to have the bulk of its clubs' fanbases concentrated in the suburbs surrounding them.

NRL would be the last competition in the world where the majority of a club’s fan base is concentrated in a few suburbs around their original home.

And difficulty in attending games is no excuse. EPL clubs have fans and sell merch all around the world. Ditto NBA/NFL. Some AFL clubs (e.g. Hawthorn) have 20k members outside their home state.

Souths have done it brilliantly. They and Storm are the only NRL clubs with a national brand. It is time to grow.

Actually it is 25 years past that time.

 

[Pneuma]

The argument used by NSWRL fans is we need nine clubs in Sydney because its people are tribalistic and won't support a club from another region.

@Adelaide Shark once said he would not support the Sharks if they relocated to Adelaide because they wouldn't be representing Sutherland. Other Sharks fans opposed any suggestion of changing their name from Cronulla to something more inclusive like "Southern Sydney".

We just had St George-Illawarra fans threaten to stop following the club when its administration toyed with the idea of changing their name.

I've heard Manly fans on here say their club must remain "Manly" because that's its brand.

It's very dishonest to say clubs draw support from all over when Sydney RL fans have threatened to give the game away on the provision their local club adopts a city-wide identity.

If you're going to argue that people can support a team that's based on the other side of the city then there's no reason to have nine teams in Sydney, is there?

Your original post said South Sydney and Melbourne are the only NRL clubs with national appeal and accused the NRL of being the last competition on Earth to have the bulk of its clubs' fanbases are concentrated in the suburbs surrounding them.

Mid week meth party!

 

[Quicksilver]

So sharks are landlocked in and limited by the geography but those that live there shouldn’t have a life and use the club!! Especially pokies damnit

They should though fork out a shit load of money to buy a membership to watch the local team play at a bigger stadium miles from their geographical home.

That’s how they will succeed everyone. That’s the answer!!!

Yep. You need to pay an exhaubitant amount of money each year to support your club, but the club isn't allowed to build a venue where you can go to enjoy a steak and beer with like-minded people. No venue for before and after game entertainment.

Oh and the League shouldn't be reliant on broadcasting money either.

 

[Ozzi_78]

Yep. You need to pay an exhaubitant amount of money each year to support your club, but the club isn't allowed to build a venue where you can go to enjoy a steak and beer with like-minded people. No venue for before and after game entertainment.

Oh and the League shouldn't be reliant on broadcasting money either.

Exactly cos footy clubs should make money. Junior clubs everywhere are just flush with money cos footy club.

 

[Quicksilver]

Exactly cos footy clubs should make money. Junior clubs everywhere are just flush with money cos footy club.

Junior clubs are too reliant on money from the sausage sizzle.

 

[siv]

How much longer can our game -- and others like fumbleball and cricket -- survive on gaming and broadcast revenue?

The broadcasters are losing money on the deals they're signing. They're also facing stiff competition from streaming services. The cost of subscribing to streaming services and Foxtel will increase to the point many of its customers will no longer be able to afford it.

Gaming machines are an unsustainable business and will face greater scrutiny over the upcoming years. Our game needs to figure out how to generate revenue from other sources otherwise it'll be f**ked when the gravy train derails.

Broadcasting is here with us for the long term in form or other, be FTA, Pay-TV, Streaming or a future thing yet to be invented

We have already seen the trends with improved IRL coverage, QRL and NSWRL coverage. Even the Auckland RL season is on youtube

Internet is evolving away from a everything is free mentality too

Gambling I guess the ultimate fambling is horse racing. It been around longer than ball sports. So even if you try to ban it, it will go offshore or into a blackmarket

There was an original attempt to ban it but it was imposdible so it the process of controlling its influence was adopted. But there will always be a threshold

 

[siv]

Without gaming machine revenue the Bulldogs wouldn't be able to cover the operating costs of running a team in the NRL.

Don't take my word for it. Go look at their annual reports and the Gemba Report.

In 2019 the Bulldogs generated just $7,832,705 from sponsorship, corporate hospitality, ticketing and membership.

Click to view Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs 2019 Annual Report

On p28 of the Gemba Report it shows a small club needs to generate at least $10,000,000. Larger clubs generate much more.

Click to view Gemba Report

Good thing the Bulldogs Leagues Club bailed them out by giving them $4,855,000.

Only because they choose to