The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[azza29]

It kinda feels like sabotage to the point of let's build a complicated said roof structure so that it would be very difficult to expand the grounds capacity down the track.

I believe there was some clause in the Docklands Stadium contract that prevented any new stadium over 30k capacity being built for a couple of decades anyway, public-private partnerships at their finest.

I'm not sure how AAMI could be reasonably expanded anyway, unless you're just adding more seats at the very back of each level, and those would have a terrible view. 30k is probably sufficient in the medium term. Most clubs that play there are happy to get 10k to their games and Marvel/MCG are workable enough for SOO and major internationals. What we definitely don't need is another Accor that might be useful twice a year.

 

[Vibing]

Saying PVL won't ever be satisfied with the stadium build is one of the stupidest things Ive read on the pages & believe me , theres competition

He would quite obviously enter into an agreement & sign a deal to host the GF in Sydney for an extended period

aka
the original deal

FMD LOL

 

[Timbo]

Saying PVL won't ever be satisfied with the stadium build is one of the stupidest things Ive read on the pages & believe me , theres competition

He would quite obviously enter into an agreement & sign a deal to host the GF in Sydney for an extended period

aka
the original deal

FMD LOL

Like the bloke who thinks the Labor Government who were elected to replace a deeply corrupt and unpopular Liberal Government should be forced to honour the promises of said corrupt and unpopular government?

 

[Vibing]

Like the bloke who thinks the Labor Government who were elected to replace a deeply corrupt and unpopular Liberal Government should be forced to honour the promises of said corrupt and unpopular government?

forced ?
no dummy
we just shop the GF around til they do , remember , what you're complaining about LOL

 

[SpaceMonkey]

I believe there was some clause in the Docklands Stadium contract that prevented any new stadium over 30k capacity being built for a couple of decades anyway, public-private partnerships at their finest.

I'm not sure how AAMI could be reasonably expanded anyway, unless you're just adding more seats at the very back of each level, and those would have a terrible view. 30k is probably sufficient in the medium term. Most clubs that play there are happy to get 10k to their games and Marvel/MCG are workable enough for SOO and major internationals. What we definitely don't need is another Accor that might be useful twice a year.

Yeah looking at it there’s no obvious way to add a second tier at the ends even if you replaced the end roof sections.

 

[greenBV4]

It kinda feels like sabotage to the point of let's build a complicated said roof structure so that it would be very difficult to expand the grounds capacity down the track.

Not really, I don't think it will stop them upgrading when needed, moreso it'll just add more costs that could of been avoided when the time does come

End of the day it's atleast a good thing the government thought about and somewhat planned for Melbourne one day having a 50k rectangular ground

 

[greenBV4]

Yeah looking at it there’s no obvious way to add a second tier at the ends even if you replaced the end roof sections.

I might be wrong but I believe the raised concorse around the stadium is the aforementioned supports for a capacity upgrade

The ends I'm not sure about though yeah

 

[Iamback]

it'll be 15 mill in 2023
& 30 Million in 2033

PVL won't be suckered into any long term deal at 15 mill for 10 years, it'll be a year by year thing til we get the stadiums fixed up as promised

Who is paying $30m for it?

There simply isn't the GA Capacity at any ground for that many tourists.

You really do lack awareness of the world at times

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Who is paying $30m for it?

There simply isn't the GA Capacity at any ground for that many tourists.

You really do lack awareness of the world at times

At the current rate of inflation it absolutely will be 30M in 10 years.

 

[Iamback]

At the current rate of inflation it absolutely will be 30M in 10 years.

The F1 costs $30m. And has 300k attend it.

Accor has 30k seats available to General Public

Melbourne is about the same.

Brisbane is prob 20k, The capacity just isn't there to make it viable

 

[greenBV4]

The F1 costs $30m. And has 300k attend it.

Accor has 30k seats available to General Public

Melbourne is about the same.

Brisbane is prob 20k, The capacity just isn't there to make it viable

Worth pointing out MCC members have to pay to keep their seat for "special events", which I'm sure any potential NRL GF would be classed as

I'm not sure about 30m but I'm all for using the superbowl method for the GF, it'll sell out regardless, and its a new revenue stream for the NRL

As competition to host it grew so would the price tag

 

[Perth Red]

The F1 costs $30m. And has 300k attend it.

Accor has 30k seats available to General Public

Melbourne is about the same.

Brisbane is prob 20k, The capacity just isn't there to make it viable

$78mill a year for F1

 

[macavity]

Can we all agree that the SCG Trust f**ked everything?

Allianz was the last stadium that needed money spent, and it was the one that got done because the Eastern Suburbs wankers are the politically connected ones.

Now they have their hand out for cricket ground money.

Guess where is getting done next.

We could have had a national rectangular stadium in the middle of Sydney.

instead the Roosters got a gift they didn’t need or deserve.

 

[Iamback]

Worth pointing out MCC members have to pay to keep their seat for "special events", which I'm sure any potential NRL GF would be classed as

I'm not sure about 30m but I'm all for using the superbowl method for the GF, it'll sell out regardless, and its a new revenue stream for the NRL

As competition to host it grew so would the price tag

Again though needs to make money or Govts won't pay for it.

Last GF reported made $18m for NSW.

So again a 10 year deal $150m deal

Provides a cash boost for the NRL

Makes money on the investment which makes it viable for the government

 

[greenBV4]

Again though needs to make money or Govts won't pay for it.

Last GF reported made $18m for NSW.

So again a 10 year deal $150m deal

Provides a cash boost for the NRL

Makes money on the investment which makes it viable for the government

You honestly think govs wouldnt pay for it? Such a lack of faith in our game as a product..

Victoria has said they would, qld is basically a certainty to bid, and just like origin games why would WA ans SA not as well? A GF is just as big a draw card. Id be surprised if we didnt see bids from auckland , actually tbh im surprised Origin hasnt gone there

NSW probably gets the least financially out of hosting as pure odds are its a Sydney team/s playing, so less tourism $$$, but you'd hope would still bid to "bring the GF home" atleast every few years

 

[Vibing]

Who is paying $30m for it?

There simply isn't the GA Capacity at any ground for that many tourists.

You really do lack awareness of the world at times

in 2033 ?
it'll be worth 30 mill , & its easily would be worth that much the Sydney economy from the 20K visitors who'd come to the city for the GF on the long weekend let alone the damage to Sydney's & NSW's prestige of not hosting its biggest sports biggest event which is incacuable.
The only one with NFI how the world works here is clearly you ...well TBF you have a few mates in here.

 

[Vibing]

You honestly think govs wouldnt pay for it? Such a lack of faith in our game as a product..

Victoria has said they would, qld is basically a certainty to bid, and just like origin games why would WA ans SA not as well? A GF is just as big a draw card. Id be surprised if we didnt see bids from auckland , actually tbh im surprised Origin hasnt gone there

NSW probably gets the least financially out of hosting as pure odds are its a Sydney team/s playing, so less tourism $$$, but you'd hope would still bid to "bring the GF home" atleast every few years

OFC they would
lamback has NFI ...about quite a few things

 

[Iamback]

You honestly think govs wouldnt pay for it? Such a lack of faith in our game as a product..

Victoria has said they would, qld is basically a certainty to bid, and just like origin games why would WA ans SA not as well? A GF is just as big a draw card. Id be surprised if we didnt see bids from auckland , actually tbh im surprised Origin hasnt gone there

NSW probably gets the least financially out of hosting as pure odds are its a Sydney team/s playing, so less tourism $$$, but you'd hope would still bid to "bring the GF home" atleast every few years

I never said they wouldn't but Govts aren't a bottomless pit of funds.

Neither are fans realistically how many people could afford to go to Perth at the drop of a hat if their team makes the GF?

All of that goes into the bid they would make

 

[Iamback]

in 2033 ?
it'll be worth 30 mill , & its easily would be worth that much the Sydney economy from the 20K visitors who'd come to the city for the GF on the long weekend let alone the damage to Sydney's & NSW's prestige of not hosting its biggest sports biggest event which is incacuable.
The only one with NFI how the world works here is clearly you ...well TBF you have a few mates in here.

Not if no one can afford to go though, That is the thing costs go up. People can't afford and will host BBQ's go to the pub with mates etc.

So it is too dependant on the teams that make it, If Say Perth gets a dud one and they lose money are they going to bid again?

Possibly but not at a higher price and seats being limited at the ground there is no way to get more people there than during the failed one

 

[Eion]

If the NSW Government agreed to pay $15m a year for ten years to host the Grand final. The Nrl could then borrow against that to get $150m up front to invest.

But not sure how the Nrl, Clubs, Governments and Councils could ever agree in a way for the NRL to invest.

That’s 15 mill that could go to hospitals or classrooms, booo!