The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Bulldog2020]

What happened to giving priority to hospitals and schools

It's hard to tell from the article/pictures it the field the main one or the one behind the hill?

Hopefully it's the main field creating some extra seating on game day.

 

[It's Been Done]

What happened to giving priority to hospitals and schools

What a way to destroy any chance of the club playing 9-12 games at Belmore full time in the future, which I'm surprised is not high on the agenda with the Bankstown line about to be converted to Metro with no more extra trains to Olympic Park for Canterbury, Belmore and the other suburbs of the Eastern half of the district. Allianz might be more suitable for some Canterbury games in the not too distant future compared to Accor

 

[MugaB]

Gender equality + Bulldogs = highschool sex scandal

St George had an immortal in raper, bulldogs will have fkn plenty

 

[Wb1234]

Qld govt also bidding 15 million pa to host the grand final

with Victoria qld and nsw bidding the numbers could smash 20 million pa

 

[Jamberoo]

How much tickets would be available to the Public?

75K. Plus 25K MCC members than might pay $100 - $200 for a special event (MCC has 102K members). A one off GF - reckon could charge a higher price than @ ACCOR. It would be huge.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I think at best Labor said they would look at the business case for the new Penrith Stadium. I think they after looking at the business case for a one team stadium will say it doesn’t stack up and it will be scrapped.

I highly doubt SCG gets any money either. I have a strong suspicion their will be no money for stadiums in the new government first term.

I’m biased, but I still think Penrith has a chance to happen. Labor just snuck over the line in Penrith and they’re now in a minority govt. I suspect they‘ll do it if they think there’s enough local support.

 

[The Great Dane]

If they had no fear of consequences they wouldn't have paid to host last years GF , they would have just called the NRL's bluff

they feared plenty............

Firstly; they've paid to host the GF for ages.

Secondly; they wouldn't have been afforded the privilege to pay for last year's GF had the NRL followed through on their multiple threats to take it away should they renege on the stadium deal.

The GF should have been taken away from NSW and sold to the highest bidder for years now, and, frankly, both the game and the NRL would be better off if it had been. The NRL shouldn't have made those threats if they weren't willing to follow through on them.

 

[Vibing]

Firstly; they've paid to host the GF for ages.

Secondly; they wouldn't have been afforded the privilege to pay for last year's GF had the NRL followed through on their multiple threats to take it away should they renege on the stadium deal.

The GF should have been taken away from NSW and sold to the highest bidder for years now, and, frankly, both the game and the NRL would be better off if it had been. The NRL shouldn't have made those threats if they weren't willing to follow through on them.

Firstly ; you said ... they didn't fear any consequences

Secondly ; obviously they did, & thought the NRL would move the GF if they didn't pay for it & the threat remains. There is no deal on stadiums therefore there is no deal on GF's & the annual pantomime on where it will be played will continue & the spotlight put on the NSW govt each year.
Eventually the NRL will get what they want.

 

[Iamback]

75K. Plus 25K MCC members than might pay $100 - $200 for a special event (MCC has 102K members). A one off GF - reckon could charge a higher price than @ ACCOR. It would be huge.

But they don't have that many seats for the public at the AFL GF, Why would they in this case?

 

[Sunshine Coast Tiger]

I’m biased, but I still think Penrith has a chance to happen. Labor just snuck over the line in Penrith and they’re now in a minority govt. I suspect they‘ll do it if they think there’s enough local support.

Maybe but I feel spending a heap of money in one seat for what really was a LNP vanity project won't be in Labor's best interests. I strongly feel they wont as for a start it puts Labor offside in may other south-western and western electorates if they do, areas that have been strong Labor for a long time and feel the money should be spent on their areas.

If by some chance they still do the new stadium (again I think highly unlikely), it will be done cheaper, cheaper will mean rebuilding it on the current site rather than enquire the paceway/showground site and relocate them. If built on current site, Penrith would have to play elsewhere for 2-3 years.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Maybe but I feel spending a heap of money in one seat for what really was a LNP vanity project won't be in Labor's best interests. I strongly feel they wont as for a start it puts Labor offside in may other south-western and western electorates if they do, areas that have been strong Labor for a long time and feel the money should be spent on their areas.

If by some chance they still do the new stadium (again I think highly unlikely), it will be done cheaper, cheaper will mean rebuilding it on the current site rather than enquire the paceway/showground site and relocate them. If built on current site, Penrith would have to play elsewhere for 2-3 years.

The South Western seats are solidly Labor, they don’t risk anything by upsetting them. It‘s not significant enough for people to switch to the liberals.

I agree the paceway site is off the table, it will be at the current site if it happens.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

If by some chance they still do the new stadium (again I think highly unlikely), it will be done cheaper, cheaper will mean rebuilding it on the current site rather than enquire the paceway/showground site and relocate them. If built on current site, Penrith would have to play elsewhere for 2-3 years.

Either that or a staged rebuild over several seasons so they can keep using it.

 

[Vibing]

while its far from ideal that the ACT govt is now looking at a staged knock down rebuild of GIO Stadium , disrupting the seasons of the Brumbies & Raiders there for up to 4 years
( why would Barr care , i'd doubt hes ever been to a game for either team )
& Im not even sure if it will be an indoor venue when its completed which was a driving factor for a new venue being required

There was a plan to build a venue at Bruce for the soccer world cup in a space that still exists about 300 metres to the north east of the present stadium on Masterman St,
If it has to be Bruce , then build a brand new indoor 30K seat venue there Barr you clown
The AIS have said they won't hand over GIO to the ACT Govt because it is an asset, Keiren Perkins the CEO of the ASC has confirmed this , but this is just bushes trees & dirt & the ASC is a federal body so in the end Albanese will decide this.
Bruce is not perfect , theres nothing there or around it accept the AIS & residential , but if the city is not an option then its next best.
With Canberra growing rapidly to the North , Bruce is almost the geographical centre of Canberra now & has been the place fans have been travelling to for 33 years so they obviously don't mind the place.
The space exists , it should be used & GIO can still be played at til the new venue is complete.

 

[Colk]

while its far from ideal that the ACT govt is now looking at a staged knock down rebuild of GIO Stadium , disrupting the seasons of the Brumbies & Raiders there for up to 4 years
( why would Barr care , i'd doubt hes ever been to a game for either team )
& Im not even sure if it will be an indoor venue when its completed which was a driving factor for a new venue being required

There was a plan to build a venue at Bruce for the soccer world cup in a space that still exists about 300 metres to the north east of the present stadium on Masterman St,
If it has to be Bruce , then build a brand new indoor 30K seat venue there Barr you clown
The AIS have said they won't hand over GIO to the ACT Govt because it is an asset, Keiren Perkins the CEO of the ASC has confirmed this , but this is just bushes trees & dirt & the ASC is a federal body so in the end Albanese will decide this.
Bruce is not perfect , theres nothing there or around it accept the AIS & residential , but if the city is not an option then its next best.
With Canberra growing rapidly to the North , Bruce is almost the geographical centre of Canberra now & has been the place fans have been travelling to for 33 years so they obviously don't mind the place.
The space exists , it should be used & GIO can still be played at til the new venue is complete.
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I think the only way a Canberra stadium would get built would be to get a football (soccer) World Cup. Areas outside of NSW and QLD (even some within them) would have to build better rectangular stadiums in order to get part of the action

 

[Vibing]

I think the only way a Canberra stadium would get built would be to get a football (soccer) World Cup. Areas outside of NSW and QLD (even some within them) would have to build better rectangular stadiums in order to get part of the action

Im not so sure about that , I think we will get one . The pressure on that clown who runs the ACT is becoming relentless , & will only peak when the capital of Australia doesn't host any womens soccer world cup games because our venue is crap.
Its a travisty..

 

[Perth Red]

I think the only way a Canberra stadium would get built would be to get a football (soccer) World Cup. Areas outside of NSW and QLD (even some within them) would have to build better rectangular stadiums in order to get part of the action

That would be massive for nrl if we did get a wc. Can’t see it happening but if it did you’d think perth, Adelaide, canberra and redcliffe could all get new stadiums out of it.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

That would be massive for nrl if we did get a wc. Can’t see it happening but if it did you’d think perth, Adelaide, canberra and redcliffe could all get new stadiums out of it.

good chance you’d get an Accor redevelopment too. Gotta hold the final somewhere huge and neither it or the MCG are currently ideal.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

I think the only way a Canberra stadium would get built would be to get a football (soccer) World Cup. Areas outside of NSW and QLD (even some within them) would have to build better rectangular stadiums in order to get part of the action

Yep, let’s hope the women’s is a success which will greatly improve our odds of hosting.

 

[The Great Dane]

while its far from ideal that the ACT govt is now looking at a staged knock down rebuild of GIO Stadium , disrupting the seasons of the Brumbies & Raiders there for up to 4 years
( why would Barr care , i'd doubt hes ever been to a game for either team )
& Im not even sure if it will be an indoor venue when its completed which was a driving factor for a new venue being required

There was a plan to build a venue at Bruce for the soccer world cup in a space that still exists about 300 metres to the north east of the present stadium on Masterman St,
If it has to be Bruce , then build a brand new indoor 30K seat venue there Barr you clown
The AIS have said they won't hand over GIO to the ACT Govt because it is an asset, Keiren Perkins the CEO of the ASC has confirmed this , but this is just bushes trees & dirt & the ASC is a federal body so in the end Albanese will decide this.
Bruce is not perfect , theres nothing there or around it accept the AIS & residential , but if the city is not an option then its next best.
With Canberra growing rapidly to the North , Bruce is almost the geographical centre of Canberra now & has been the place fans have been travelling to for 33 years so they obviously don't mind the place.
The space exists , it should be used & GIO can still be played at til the new venue is complete.
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Bruce is neither the geographical nor population centre of Canberra, that's the Inner South.

You're right when you say that population growth in the north will pull the population centre back across the lake to the Inner North given time, but though that's closer to Bruce than the Inner South is, it isn't really near Bruce or Belco like you suggest.

Bruce also lacks most basics amenities and is poorly supported by public transport links relative to other parts of the city, especially if you are coming from the south. In other words it's not even close to being the next best option after Civic, any of the other city centres would be better options than Bruce, and the only reason Bruce is being seriously discussed at all is because the ACT gov hope that the federal government will carry most of the costs if the stadium is rebuilt as part of a renewal of the AIS.

With the debatable exception of Epic, Bruce is probably the worst possible outcome simply because it won't address most of the major issues with the stadium's location and it will mean that the only major rectangular stadium in the city will continue to be a Federally owned asset. In other words, we'll have all the same problems we have now in 30-50 years time when it comes time to refurbish or replace stadium again, and that should be avoided at all costs.

You can probably throw-out any hopes of an enclosed stadium if it's a staged redevelopment as well BTW.

Im not so sure about that , I think we will get one . The pressure on that clown who runs the ACT is becoming relentless , & will only peak when the capital of Australia doesn't host any womens soccer world cup games because our venue is crap.
Its a travisty..

This is totally untrue as well.

The electorate in the ACT is putting little to no pressure on the government to upgrade or replace the stadium, and if anything most voters would oppose any major investment in stadia. It's the typical "I won't use it and what about muh health and education systems" crap from people whom don't understand how political portfolios work, but that's an aside.

Nor have I heard any mainstream unrest because of the government's refusal to bid for WWC games. In my experience most people supported the decision to turn down the FFA's offer to bid when they learned FIFA's demands and how much it would cost.

There is a noisy minority of sports fans and businesses that are crying out for a stadium upgrade, and many other sports and entertainment infrastructure projects as well BTW, but they've been totally ignored for the last 15+ years and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Frankly, I can't see any major changes to the stadium debate in Canberra happening anytime soon unless something significant and reasonably unpredictable happens, e.g. the stadium is closed for public safety reasons like the arena, the Feds offer to fund it, some other consortium or stakeholder steps in and offers to help fund it, etc.

 

[mongoose]

time to move back to Queanbeyan... maybe the NSW govt will build them a stadium