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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Timbo

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Shark Park lighting is terrible for NRL level.
I’ve seen better lighting at QRL Cup games or regional stadiums

Those four extra towers they installed a few years back barely do anything. When they turn the lights on the darkness usually wins.
 

The Great Dane

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My reading of this article suggest that there might be some news around the AIS and a new Canberra stadium around Federal Budget time in a few weeks.
Allowing the Feds to upgrade Bruce locks the ACT into another cycle of our major stadium being a Federal asset, making it incredibly hard for necessary upgrades or a knockdown rebuild to happen in the future.

It basically means that we'll almost certainly end up in the exact situation that we're in now in 30-40 years time when the new stadium needs replacing, as the ACT government will again be unable to sell the land the old stadium is on to fund the new one making it a much more expensive project.

I also bet that it's only a matter of time before the AFL get's involved, and they'll have more leverage at the federal level. I guarantee that they'll either stick their noise in and try to get it built into a "multipurpose", or we'll start hearing about plans for a brand new oval stadium in a better location once the rectangular stadium is done... I guess you get what you deserve though, as they're willing to get involved and put their money where their mouth is where the NRL couldn't give a shit unless it's happening inside the city limits of Sydney and Brisbane.
 

titoelcolombiano

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My reading of this article suggest that there might be some news around the AIS and a new Canberra stadium around Federal Budget time in a few weeks.
Is it really 45 years old? Seems like an exaggeration. If so it must have been well before it's time back then as an all seater.

Also I see Ms Graf has learnt from the old SCG trust on how to pull the right levers to get this built ;)

"The toilets, the amenities are old and terrible, the food offerings are sub-par, it's not easy to get around the venue," Ms Graf says.
 

Pneuma

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Is it really 45 years old? Seems like an exaggeration. If so it must have been well before it's time back then as an all seater.

Also I see Ms Graf has learnt from the old SCG trust on how to pull the right levers to get this built ;)

"The toilets, the amenities are old and terrible, the food offerings are sub-par, it's not easy to get around the venue," Ms Graf says.
Reading all of the above I’m beginning to wonder if Albo will be announcing major sports infrastructure projects in the next budget.
That might include the Canberra and Hobart stadiums both of which would have limited public support. The Hobart Stadium is opposed by both the State ALP and greens and a good number of local federal liberals. The support for it is truly underwhelming by the public too.
Others will know better than me about the situation in Canberra but from what I’ve read here it’s not very encouraging.
 

Wb1234

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My reading of this article suggest that there might be some news around the AIS and a new Canberra stadium around Federal Budget time in a few weeks.
He’s just saying that to help his old union club

how many union tests could Canberra possibly get

the arlc needs to get involved and speak directly with albanese and circumvent the fumbler Barr
 

titoelcolombiano

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Reading all of the above I’m beginning to wonder if Albo will be announcing major sports infrastructure projects in the next budget.
That might include the Canberra and Hobart stadiums both of which would have limited public support. The Hobart Stadium is opposed by both the State ALP and greens and a good number of local federal liberals. The support for it is truly underwhelming by the public too.
Others will know better than me about the situation in Canberra but from what I’ve read here it’s not very encouraging.
I hope you are right. Whatever can get RL a shiny new stadium in Canberra
 

titoelcolombiano

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He’s just saying that to help his old union club

how many union tests could Canberra possibly get

the arlc needs to get involved and speak directly with albanese and circumvent the fumbler Barr
As much as I despise RU and as much as I am indifferent to Soccer, those two need to get off their arses more and help us make a stronger case for these grounds that they will benefit from and stop sitting back letting us take all the public heat for it.
 

The Great Dane

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Is it really 45 years old? Seems like an exaggeration. If so it must have been well before it's time back then as an all seater.

Also I see Ms Graf has learnt from the old SCG trust on how to pull the right levers to get this built ;)

"The toilets, the amenities are old and terrible, the food offerings are sub-par, it's not easy to get around the venue," Ms Graf says.
The oldest parts of the Meninga stand are, but it's been upgraded a few times since then.

It started out as an athletics oval with a running track around it, which is why it's a weird shape.
 

The Great Dane

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He’s just saying that to help his old union club

how many union tests could Canberra possibly get

the arlc needs to get involved and speak directly with albanese and circumvent the fumbler Barr
The only reason the ARU doesn't already regularly play Wallabies matches in Canberra is because a suitable stadium doesn't exist. If the facilities existed you could put Wallabies tests in Canberra into permanent rotation and they'd be well supported, especially games against smaller nations that don't draw as well in other parts of the country.

The Brumbies are struggling in Canberra for a myriad of reasons that are largely outside of their control, but Canberra is still one of the last ardent RU heartlands.
 
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The Great Dane

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I hope you are right. Whatever can get RL a shiny new stadium in Canberra
Whether the stadium is new or not won't make a great deal of difference if it remains in Bruce, isn't built for purpose, and isn't built with Canberra's climate in mind.

Given the current rumours are that the Federal government are only interested in supporting it as part of a renewal of the AIS, that it will have to support use by the AIS, and that it'll be a staged knockdown rebuild, I highly doubt that it'll address any of those issues.
 

The Great Dane

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As much as I despise RU and as much as I am indifferent to Soccer, those two need to get off their arses more and help us make a stronger case for these grounds that they will benefit from and stop sitting back letting us take all the public heat for it.
If anybody needs to get off their arse and help make the case in Canberra it's the NRL and ARLC, whom have totally refused to do anything more than spit platitudes about the subject for well over a decade now.

Both the ARU and FFA have semi-regularly met with the ACT government and stakeholders about the stadium over the years, and both have made both public and private offers in support of the push for a new stadium to the best of their ability. All of that's significantly more than can be said of either the NRL or ARLC.

The FFA seem to have given up in last few years, and I can't say I blame them frankly, but of the three the ARU have probably been the ones whom have supported the new stadium the most over the years, even when they've had bigger issues of their own to deal with.
 

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If anybody needs to get off their arse and help make the case in Canberra it's the NRL and ARLC, whom have totally refused to do anything more than spit platitudes about the subject for well over a decade now.

Both the ARU and FFA have semi-regularly met with the ACT government and stakeholders about the stadium over the years, and both have made both public and private offers in support of the push for a new stadium to the best of their ability. All of that's significantly more than can be said of either the NRL or ARLC.

The FFA seem to have given up in last few years, and I can't say I blame them frankly, but of the three the ARU have probably been the ones whom have supported the new stadium the most over the years, even when they've had bigger issues of their own to deal with.
Real eye opener

Our administration likes to talk a a big game via off handed comments to the media but when it comes to actually doing something/ speaking directly to the parties involved - nothing
 

The Great Dane

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Barr will never approve a civic stadium. He wants AFL as the dominant sport in Canberra and a purpose built stadium in the city for League/Union/Soccer would bury it.
Then stop pushing for a stadium in Civic and look for a workable compromise that's undeniably a better outcome for all. There isn't room for a stadium in Civic anymore anyway, not unless we're willing to knock down buildings, reclaim land, or work with the NCA, none of which is going to happen.

Building it in any of the city centres, and a handful of other places as well, would be a better outcome than Bruce, and identifying and proposing potential locations for a stadium in those alternate locations that aren't even being discussed is what the pro-stadium lobby should have been exploring for years now instead of flogging the dead horse that is a Civic Stadium.
 

Chief_Chujo

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Then stop pushing for a stadium in Civic and look for a workable compromise that's undeniably a better outcome for all. There isn't room for a stadium in Civic anymore anyway, not unless we're willing to knock down buildings, reclaim land, or work with the NCA, none of which is going to happen.

Building it in any of the city centres, and a handful of other places as well, would be a better outcome than Bruce, and identifying and proposing potential locations for a stadium in those alternate locations that aren't even being discussed is what the pro-stadium lobby should have been exploring for years now instead of flogging the dead horse that is a Civic Stadium.
You don't understand. Barr wont allow anything other than a rebuild of Bruce.
 

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