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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

SLRBRONCOS

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She's ready. Pitch will be mangled 10 mins into the first game tho!
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Desert Qlder

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She's ready. Pitch will be mangled 10 mins into the first game tho!
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Hey mate, does the Eastern stand hold more than the Western?

I know the W stand was finished in 94, replacing the old Frank Burke stand so was not part of 03 redevelopment.

It would have been aesthetically pleasing for the three tiers to wrap around fully.
 

SLRBRONCOS

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Hey mate, does the Eastern stand hold more than the Western?

I know the W stand was finished in 94, replacing the old Frank Burke stand so was not part of 03 redevelopment.

It would have been aesthetically pleasing for the three tiers to wrap around fully.
The east does hold more - I can't remember how much off the top of my head but because of the middle tier it does. Level 6 of the west holds more than level 7 of the east though (not including corners).

I'll try find a source but from memory if they were able to have it symmetrical the capacity would be approx. 60k and if they took the roof off and made it a perfect three tiered bowl (building up the corners) they could get it to 70k. Was all talk when bidding for the FIFA WC. Would be a huge engineering job given the roof holds the top tier due to the inability to excavate. If the roof wasn't holding level 7 I think they'd have built in the level 7 corners.

Would absolutely love it to be a perfect three tiered bowl, can only dream!
 

Desert Qlder

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The east does hold more - I can't remember how much off the top of my head but because of the middle tier it does. Level 6 of the west holds more than level 7 of the east though (not including corners).

I'll try find a source but from memory if they were able to have it symmetrical the capacity would be approx. 60k and if they took the roof off and made it a perfect three tiered bowl (building up the corners) they could get it to 70k. Was all talk when bidding for the FIFA WC. Would be a huge engineering job given the roof holds the top tier due to the inability to excavate. If the roof wasn't holding level 7 I think they'd have built in the level 7 corners.

Would absolutely love it to be a perfect three tiered bowl, can only dream!
Back in 02 they were actually taking tours during construction.

I went on one tour, wish I’d taken photos. By that stage they’d reached the top tiers.
 

It's Been Done

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I still wonder how much bigger Suncorp would've been had they not been handicapped by the Western Stand and they were able to move the ground closer to Hale Street and maybe even shifted North slightly
 

SLRBRONCOS

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Back in 02 they were actually taking tours during construction.

I went on one tour, wish I’d taken photos. By that stage they’d reached the top tiers.
That would have been awesome.

I was 12 in 2003 - I'll never forget how I felt walking into the stadium for Origin game three of that year. I was so shocked and couldn't believe something so epic had been built by humans. Ha. The magic of being a kid.
 

The Great Dane

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Not in Melbourne. Beside my two Poms mates, I don’t know anyone who follows any O/S soccer. NBA, yes. Soccer, no.
That's great for your mates, but how about the other 5.64 million people in Melbourne?

Before successive missteps and shenanigans Victory were the biggest team in the A-league. Melbourne clubs were amongst the best supported back in the NSL days as well. Melbourne's large influx of immigrants from Europe after the war, and their descendants, are also disproportionately likely to support soccer.

In other words you're flat-out wrong, and Melbourne is arguably the biggest soccer market in the country.
 
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Yosemite Sam

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That's great for your mates, but how about the other 5.64 million people in Melbourne?

Before successive missteps and shenanigans Victory were the biggest team in the A-league. Melbourne clubs were amongst the best supported back in the NSL days as well. Melbourne's large influx of immigrants from Europe after the war, and their descendants, are also disproportionately likely to support soccer.

In other words you're flat-out wrong, and Melbourne is arguably the biggest soccer market in the country.
As far as club support maybe. Participation levels at both junior and senior levels are miles behind Sydney.
 

greenBV4

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In terms of overall interest in sports in Melbourne it would be
1. AFL
2. Cricket
3. Basketball
4. Tennis/Netball/Soccer (obviously soccer is higher when the WC is on, just like we love swimming for a week every Olympics, or tennis during the AO).
From an inner city perspective,
if this list is in terms of participation I agree, but if it's pro following not so much.

soccer easily goes to no 2 (premier league though, not a league) and NRL to 3 or 4, however oonly really Storm games, not the comp as a whole.

Cricket is hard to place, it's huge amongst the Indian community but elsewhere I'd say it's waning, being played over summer it's also hard to compare as it's not head to head with the football codes

Basketball would take the other 3 or 4 spot, but again like soccer this would be NBA following, not the NBL
 
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San Siro - Milan. (80 019)


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Bernabeau - Madrid. 81 000

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Camp Nou - Barcelona (98 000)

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Wembley (91000)

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There are multitudes more around the world. Especially in the USA.
For Oz not to have a decent large rectangular stadium in this country and in the country's most prominent rectangular sport city is an embarrassment.
Out of interest, what game were 90,000 doing maxing out the Nou Camp for a game of Union?
 
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As far as my thoughts for NRL stadiums are concerned, not all Sydney suburban grounds need to be as schmick as Parra.

The likes of Manly, Cronulla, Leichhardt Penrith and Campbeltown could all do with predominantly shell venues like Gold Coast or Central Coast with steep stands, rain cover and adequate (without being exceptional) corporate, food & beverage and toilet facilities.

That should be possible to build almost flat pack style, with ease and on the cheap.
 

SpaceMonkey

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As far as my thoughts for NRL stadiums are concerned, not all Sydney suburban grounds need to be as schmick as Parra.

The likes of Manly, Cronulla, Leichhardt Penrith and Campbeltown could all do with predominantly shell venues like Gold Coast or Central Coast with steep stands, rain cover and adequate (without being exceptional) corporate, food & beverage and toilet facilities.

That should be possible to build almost flat pack style, with ease and on the cheap.
As I’ve mentioned earlier the East stand at Mt Smart cost 20M to build in 2004-05. Now even if you assume the cost has gone up by a factor of 2.5 that’s 100m for a pair of good sized two-tiered main stands with near 20k capacity, add single tiered ends with a basic roof and I reckon you’d get it done for 150M and have 25K+ capacity plus whatever it costs to do the pitch itself and any demolition.
 
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As I’ve mentioned earlier the East stand at Mt Smart cost 20M to build in 2004-05. Now even if you assume the cost has gone up by a factor of 2.5 that’s 100m for a pair of good sized two-tiered main stands with near 20k capacity, add single tiered ends with a basic roof and I reckon you’d get it done for 150M and have 25K+ capacity plus whatever it costs to do the pitch itself and any demolition.
Yeah, I am surprised there isn’t a leading builder formulating cheap stadia option for the NRL, promoting a bulk purchase, multi stadia contract for the suburban grounds. “Go with us, we will do all six of them for $1b”, kind of thing.
 

Perth Red

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As I’ve mentioned earlier the East stand at Mt Smart cost 20M to build in 2004-05. Now even if you assume the cost has gone up by a factor of 2.5 that’s 100m for a pair of good sized two-tiered main stands with near 20k capacity, add single tiered ends with a basic roof and I reckon you’d get it done for 150M and have 25K+ capacity plus whatever it costs to do the pitch itself and any demolition.
Costs have gone up massively since then.
HBF Park in 2012 was $95mill for:
a covered eastern grandstand (main stand, some open corporate boxes) 7000 seats
an uncovered southern stand (end stand) 1,850 seats
a barbecue terrace, new amenity ‘pods’ (food and toilets), two video replay scoreboards, PA system, CCTV, new pitch lighting and replacement of the pitch.
 

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