The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Pjf04b]

Shared centralised stadia is pretty much standard practice for publicly owned stadiums these days. It’s more cost effective and commercially sound, and it’s cheaper and easier to build and maintain dedicated infrastructure around a single stadium than half a dozen or more.

2 hours of travel time between Penrith and Manly wouldn’t be a thing at all if they were using stadiums in a central part of the city that’s easy for everyone to get to. It’s one of the reasons it’s been such a successful planning strategy.

The NSW Government's strategy was a 3 city set up with a stadium in each ie Sydney (Allianz) Parramatta (CommBank) and Penrith. The Labor party is giving it lip-service with a half hearted refurbishment of an inadequate stadium.
The Penrith area is being robbed of a new stadium, which is typical of the neglect for decades.

 

[The Great Dane]

So you want every team in Sydney to play in 2 stadiums. Impossible.
The surfaces would not be able to cope with the number of games, and it would be logistically impossible to do the draw.

Totally impossible except for the facts that the 9 AFL teams somehow manage it in Melbourne, and that there’re 3 central stadiums in Sydney not 2.

 

[The Great Dane]

The NSW Government's strategy was a 3 city set up with a stadium in each ie Sydney (Allianz) Parramatta (CommBank) and Penrith. The Labor party is giving it lip-service with a half hearted refurbishment of an inadequate stadium.
The Penrith area is being robbed of a new stadium, which is typical of the neglect for decades.

Penrith, one of the most pork barrelled electorates in the country, neglected lol.

You need to travel beyond the borders of your suburb sometimes.

 

[Wb1234]

I thought regional centres have different perspective to distance, ‘country mile’ and all that? Anyway, my second point still stands. The pandemic and cost-of-living crisis contributing to the anti stadium sentiment didn’t exist when either of those stadiums were built. Like Moore Park and Parramatta, they got in early. Until either an economic recovery, a successful World Cup bid or politicians grow some, we’re not getting anything for a while, sadly

There’s still the deal to keep the grand final which Penrith I’ll get 309 and the rest if rumours are true Newcastle and the gong

state budgets are stretched due to covid and inflation but five years the situation could be totally different eg liberals in power or labor on an infrastructure spend to keep up with booming population

and Penrith can be classed as regional it’s hardly part of Sydney

 

[Wb1234]

Totally impossible except for the facts that the 9 AFL teams somehow manage it in Melbourne, and that there’re 3 central stadiums in Sydney not 2.

So which central stadium should Penrith play at ? Parra allianz or accor lmao

 

[Wb1234]

That’s the problem with the current mentality. Instead of seeing commbank as a stadium built for all western Sydney and alliance for all of central and eastern sydney you see them as for two specific clubs. Until that mentality changes Sydney will be stuck in its impasse of every club wanting a shiny new stadium.

Dogs tigers and south’s have all played home games at commbank with poor results

it’s like you and Dane deal with fairytales and don’t even look at what’s happening in the nrl

 

[Canard]

I thought regional centres have different perspective to distance, ‘country mile’ and all that? Anyway, my second point still stands. The pandemic and cost-of-living crisis contributing to the anti stadium sentiment didn’t exist when either of those stadiums were built. Like Moore Park and Parramatta, they got in early. Until either an economic recovery, a successful World Cup bid or politicians grow some, we’re not getting anything for a while, sadly.

QLD has only built 1 new stadium in almost 20 years, so I think the "it treats RL better" is slightly overblown.

 

[Pjf04b]

What pork barrelling are you going on about?
Parramatta and thr Roosters have had 2 stadiums built in the past 30 years. Light rail, $120m aquatic centre also in Parramatta.
What has been done in Penrith? The hospital has been redeveloped (a regional hospital for the Penrith, Hawkesbury Nd Blue Mountains), and ?????
No stadium, no new highschools.
The North Rd upgrade is for the new airport. So what are you talking g about?

 

[Pjf04b]

QLD has only built 1 new stadium in almost 20 years, so I think the "it treats RL better" is slightly overblown.

What about CBus, Townsville as well as Metricon for AFL and upgrade for the Gabba.

 

[t-ba]

Most anywhere where the taxpayer owns the facilities. Most cities in the US and Canada where the facilities have been built in the last 30ish years for example.

Uhh...no?

Plenty of American teams in the same market have been given their own stadiums through public funding. New York City FC is getting one built in Queens, the Suns and Coyotes don't share a ground, the Wild and Timberwolves don't share a ground. The Panthers and Heat don't share a ground. There's quite a few that could conceivably share public facilities built in the last thirty years but don't.

 

[Wb1234]

What pork barrelling are you going on about?
Parramatta and thr Roosters have had 2 stadiums built in the past 30 years. Light rail, $120m aquatic centre also in Parramatta.
What has been done in Penrith? The hospital has been redeveloped (a regional hospital for the Penrith, Hawkesbury Nd Blue Mountains), and ?????
No stadium, no new highschools.
The North Rd upgrade is for the new airport. So what are you talking g about?

Dane making up bs as usual

 

[t-ba]

The story by fans here of it taking 2 hours to get from Penrith to Manly is an eye opener. Not so easy or fair to say you can only play in 2 stadiums in this city.

People don't appreciate the size of Sydney.

Like, by way of example, the drive between the Washington Commander's and Baltimore Raven's homegrounds in 52km, 20km less than the 72km between Penrith Park and Brookvale Oval. It's 5km less than the drive between Old Trafford and Elland Road.

Flanders, which is like half of Belgium, is about the size of Sydney.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

People don't appreciate the size of Sydney.

Like, by way of example, the drive between the Washington Commander's and Baltimore Raven's homegrounds in 52km, 20km less than the 72km between Penrith Park and Brookvale Oval. It's 5km less than the drive between Old Trafford and Elland Road.

Flanders, which is like half of Belgium, is about the size of Sydney.

I sometimes wonder if some people think it’s a straight line between two destinations with no traffic in between.

 

[beave]

QLD has only built 1 new stadium in almost 20 years, so I think the "it treats RL better" is slightly overblown.

That's not true mate.

Current suncorp config just hit 20 years old.

CBUS.

QCB.

 

[beave]

Uhh...no?

Plenty of American teams in the same market have been given their own stadiums through public funding. New York City FC is getting one built in Queens, the Suns and Coyotes don't share a ground, the Wild and Timberwolves don't share a ground. The Panthers and Heat don't share a ground. There's quite a few that could conceivably share public facilities built in the last thirty years but don't.

NFL teams get huge money to go towards stadiums builds from local cities and counties. A few fair then throw a tax onto hotel rooms and sell it to the masses that the visiting fans are paying for the stadium.

 

[Vee]

It helped that Cows didn’t have a CommBank type stadium half an hour away plus the anti stadium sentiment hadn’t started yet.

And that the Feds threw in $100M. And the council donated the land.

 

[Canard]

What about CBus, Townsville as well as Metricon for AFL and upgrade for the Gabba.

That's not true mate.

Current suncorp config just hit 20 years old.

CBUS.

QCB.

"almost 20 years" I said.

Robina was funded in 2005 and started construction in 2006.

Gabba and Carrara are not RL @Pjf04b, and if anything show that the AFL gets as much priority as RL.

 

[Vee]

Barlow Park to receive $8.35m lighting upgrade as well as video replay screen

A major upgrade to Cairns’ “premier rectangular sporting facility” will be complete within a year as council

Isaac McCarthy

August 24, 2023

Barlow Park will receive an $8.35m upgrade that includes $7m for improved lighting and a $1.3m video replay screen.

The council approved i-LEC Group Pty Ltd as the contractor as well as a project launch budget of $10.9m at its Wednesday Ordinary meeting. The works will commence in September; the council plans to complete the project by “mid-2024”.

The council received $4m from the state government to fund the project.

Division 7 councillor Max O’Halloran said the upgrade was the beginning of more future upgrades.

“We’re at the wanted for a long time[/URL],” Mr O’Halloran said. “From little things big things grow … there’s some things in the pipeline … this is the beginning of

The works will include the erection of four new light poles, approximately 51m high, a new Ergon site power supply and a video replay screen 13.1m wide and 7.36m high.

The council is conducting the lighting upgrade to attract national sporting games as well as significant cultural and music events.



According to a council report, the current lighting at the ground is capable of 500 lux.
The lighting will be upgraded to 1400 lux, suitable for television broadcast.

“The video replay screen is considered an important feature to the upgraded facilities. Barlow Park competes with a number of other regional facilities for national content and the absence of a large replay screen as compared to these competing venues is seen ad a cost impediment by event proponents,” the council report stated.

“Council has a longstanding relationship with the South Sydney Rabbitohs Rugby League Club who recently held an NRL premiership match at Barlow Park[/URL]. Advice from their event staff is the cost to hire the screen for this event has more than doubled as compared to the last time they played in Cairns.

“The proposed video replay screen will cost $1.32m excluding GST. The screen will be located at the top of the eastern hill (corner of Spence St and Severin St) … the location has difficult construction access for machinery … requiring a temporary earth ramp to be constructed off Spence St to access the site.”

In the council’s risk management analysis, it has assessed the risk of Ergon delaying the project as high, but said Ergon is working toward a completion date of May 21, 2024.

https://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/...t/news-story/ec6b38c1f0ad803c9701906b7c16845a​

 

[beave]

"almost 20 years" I said.

Robina was funded in 2005 and started construction in 2006.

Gabba and Carrara are not RL @Pjf04b, and if anything show that the AFL gets as much priority as RL.

so QCB + Robina is still more than 1 RL stadium in almost 20 years yeah?

*just to add, I'm not sticking up for the QLD gov here either, they didn't fund all of QCB build like they should have.

 

[Vee]

So, lights and a video screen. No grandstands, no dressing rooms, toilets, food or drink stands.

on a .