The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Saint Doc]

Love the canopy design but the gradient looks more shallow than ANZ.

 

[Danish]

I'd prefer they build a permanently indoor stadium with a glass roof so that the grass doesn't die. You'd have to think something like that would keep the costs down compared to retractable

 

[Timbo]

Love the canopy design but the gradient looks more shallow than ANZ.

I suppose that's true looking at the photos.

HOWEVER with 25,000 fewer seats it wouldn't really be a huge issue as the seats furthest from the action are still much closer to the pitch.

This can also be rectified in a stadium with a newer design - it doesn't show it but BC place has one retractable side, designed for baseball (believe it or not - that stadium was actually built to try and lure a major league baseball side to Vancouver, not for football) and I believe the gradient is a result of that.

 

[Timbo]

I'd prefer they build a permanently indoor stadium with a glass roof so that the grass doesn't die. You'd have to think something like that would keep the costs down compared to retractable

Be nice for Sydney FC playing under a glass roof on a 35 degree day in January.

 

[Danish]

I think they're banking on the new tram line being the saviour of Moore Park and a major reason to push it as a site for a new stadium. I'm all for the light rail line, but it's not going to make things much easier for people travelling from the outskirts of the city to Moore Park.

It would be easier than travelling to ANZ for most of Sydney given all train lines go to central, whereas only 1 train line goes to Lidcombe.

Coming from my place in Caringbah is a 3 train proposition to ANZ but would only be a train and light rail to moore park. And that is the same story for all but 2 train lines in Sydney.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

BC Place is meh, even though renovated its old and rank looking!

Stade Pierre-Mauroy in Lille is awesome, 50,186. I was lucky enough to watch the Davis Cup Final there last year. Its much like Suncorp, but doesn't feel as steep/ close to the action.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Roosters 13k crowds in a 60k stadium, that will make the nrl look awesome!

Yep, better to just ask for a 15k seater...

aim low and youll never be disappointed :/

 

[Tinkler]

Sydney clubs need to merge.

 

[Panfas]

http://www.news.com.au/national/eel.../story-e6frfkp9-1227498564046?from=public_rss

Eels start search for new home with new-look Pirtek Stadium now likely
AUGUST 25, 2015 9:00PM

The Parramatta Eels and Western Sydney Wanderers will be forced to find alternative homes for at least two years as plans for a new-look Pirtek Stadium start to take shape.

Parramatta has started drawing up official contingency plans for a move away from Pirtek Stadium for at least two NRL seasons.

And the Western Sydney Wanderers are looking at moving to either Spotless Stadium inside Sydney Olympic Park, Belmore Sports Ground, Campbelltown Stadium or Penrith’s Pepper Stadium.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal Pirtek Stadium would be totally demolished in a $300 million rebuild, to start either late next year or early 2017.

The NSW Government is yet to formally sign off on the deal but a new stadium at Parramatta will be built to seat up to 35,000 fans.

Construction would take at least two years, forcing the Eels and Wanderers needing to relocate for that period.

It is thought the new stadium would be completed by 2019, in time for campaigning at the next State election.

Parramatta has already started considering new home grounds.
ANZ Stadium is the most likely and logical venue although the Eels will also look at Pepper Stadium.

Parramatta will also consider taking additional games to Darwin, regional areas, Gosford or New Zealand during that time.

“If there is a need to have a temporary home in the short term, we will undertake extensive consultation and planning with our expanding membership and fan base to ensure they are central to any decision we make,” said Steve Sharp, Parramatta Leagues Club and Eels Chairman said.

“Combined with the $100m redevelopment of Parramatta Leagues Club, a full upgrade of Pirtek Stadium will create a world class sporting and entertainment precinct in the heart of Western Sydney — enabling our members and fans to have the best facilities in Australian sport.”

The Wanderers are looking closely at the Spotless Stadium, home of the GWS Giants and Sydney Thunder.

Depending when construction starts, Western Sydney could actually be homeless for three seasons.

“While a formal decision on Pirtek Stadium is still pending there is a reality that should we have to deal with a significant period of displacement a plan needs to be in place that suits not only the team but our fans and members in Western Sydney,” said Wanderers CEO John Tsatsimas.

“There are a number of venues in Western Sydney that have their own unique opportunities and challenges and we will consult our members and review our options when a decision and timeline is clear to us.”

The Eels moved previously moved to Belmore when Parramatta Stadium was built before returning home in 1986, the year the club last won a premiership.

It is understood Pirtek Stadium would be the first arena renovated before ANZ Stadium and Allianz Stadium, which could also be knocked down and replaced by a proposed new 65,000 seat arena at Moore Park.

That could also push the Sydney Roosters to a new home ground for two to three years. During construction, the Roosters may move next door to the SCG or play at ANZ Stadium.

Eels officials say ANZ Stadium is their “preferred choice” although the club would seek improvements in transport from western Sydney to Homebush.

The foundations are already in place at Pirtek Stadium, as is the playing surface. Parramatta is also looking at building a massive car park in their new precinct to be built between the stadium and Leagues Club.

The club hopes that carpark would be completed approximately the same as the new stadium would open.

 

[Brutus]

Roosters should go back Henson.

 

[Brutus]

Is 35k the ideal capacity for the new Parra Stadium?

 

[Lockyer4President!]

Is 35k the ideal capacity for the new Parra Stadium?

Seems perfect to me? 15-20k crowds in a 35k seater will get a give off a good atmosphere and it's big enough to allow for growth.

 

[reanimate]

It would be easier than travelling to ANZ for most of Sydney given all train lines go to central, whereas only 1 train line goes to Lidcombe.

Coming from my place in Caringbah is a 3 train proposition to ANZ but would only be a train and light rail to moore park. And that is the same story for all but 2 train lines in Sydney.

That's true, it'd be a different story if they ran trains direct to Olympic park every game day, but needing to change for the smaller games is painful.

 

[RoosTah]

Agree. Could do worse than something like AAMI Park in Melbourne. Great design and perfect capacity wise for most week-to-week games.

In terms of the SFS, I've often thought the ideal - if developmentally challenging - solution for Sydney would be if the SFS were built in the lands just behind Central station. Would make the public transport access to the ground significantly more appealing for a lot of people, and it's something Sydney desperately needs - a world class stadium close to its worker and transportation sources.

Failing that, extending a rail line to go under Moore Park would be pretty handy too (but again, expensive and challenging).

 

[cleary89]

35k would be perfect imo. Hope it happens.

 

[bobmar28]

I'd prefer they build a permanently indoor stadium with a glass roof so that the grass doesn't die. You'd have to think something like that would keep the costs down compared to retractable

how about synthetic grass on the field?

 

[Nerd]

Just get the plans for Suncorp Stadium and build a replica.

 

[TheRam]

Agree. Could do worse than something like AAMI Park in Melbourne. Great design and perfect capacity wise for most week-to-week games.

In terms of the SFS, I've often thought the ideal - if developmentally challenging - solution for Sydney would be if the SFS were built in the lands just behind Central station. Would make the public transport access to the ground significantly more appealing for a lot of people, and it's something Sydney desperately needs - a world class stadium close to its worker and transportation sources.

Failing that, extending a rail line to go under Moore Park would be pretty handy too (but again, expensive and challenging).

Totally agree. I've always said Prince Alfred Park is the perfect location for a stadium in the east. It would be a guaranteed minimum 20k every week no matter who was playing.

Think of Friday after work drinks and the footy or people coming into the city from anywhere and the first place of call is the footy and a few drinks, and then they kick on for more into the night. How easy, convenient and appealing would that be for the average punter?

But sadly it will never happen, cause this lot running the game can't see out of their own arse. Amateurs.

 

[Ice_Storm]

Many if these new ideas going to be indoor stadiums? Not sure how everyone feels about a game indoors, but with Sydney's rain, surely it being undercover would mean 5000+ extra every game?

 

[colly]

This what i would like to happen. Sweep up all council grounds (Brooky, Leighthart, Belmore, Penrith, Campbelltown, into a Trust (like the sydney Criciket ground trust) and build covering over hill and one end using.......
and build a mini club grandstand at one end like shark park.


http://www.fabritecture.com/projects.php
Woven fiberglass coated with PTFE (Teflon or silicone) is also a widely used base material. Glass fibers are drawn into continuous filaments, which are then bundled into yarns. The yarns are woven to form a substrate. The fiberglass carries a high ultimate tensile strength, behaves elastically, and does not suffer from significant stress relaxation or creep and have been the material of choice for stadium domes and other permanent structures, particularly in the United States.


Terrace the hill with artificial grass/seating or terrace fencing,...

This brings the game to people the smaller crowds feel bigger (the EPL has small grounds but the atmosphere is great. Even if you cover the hill all up it could be as low as 25 million for the 100 meter hill covering.

Do up Alliance stadium rebuild the ends especially the southern end put the huge screen higher for a better amp- theatre look. Finally get the Olympic stadium to configure it for Football/rectangle only and if used for club games be able to curtain/to reduce the size structure for a better viewing experience (spectators, and TV viewers.


http://www.fabritecture.com/projects.php
Woven fiberglass coated with PTFE (Teflon or silicone) is also a widely used base material. Glass fibers are drawn into continuous filaments, which are then bundled into yarns. The yarns are woven to form a substrate. The fiberglass carries a high ultimate tensile strength, behaves elastically, and does not suffer from significant stress relaxation or creep and have been the material of choice for stadium domes and other permanent structures, particularly in the United States.


Terrace the hill with artificial grass/seating or terrace fencing,...

This brings the game to people the smaller crowds feel bigger (the EPL has small grounds but the atmosphere is great. Even if you cover the hill all up it could be as low as 25 million for the 100 meter hill covering.

Do up Alliance stadium rebuild the ends especially the southern end put the huge screen higher for a better amp- theatre look. Finally get the Olympic stadium to configure it for Football/rectangle only and if used for club games be able to curtain/to reduce the size structure for a better viewing experience (spectators, and TV viewers.