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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

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The following story was posted on the Sydney Morning Herald's website earlier this evening -

Premium seats could double at new Sydney stadium: documents

By Alexandra Smith
Updated 8 April 2018 — 6:21pm, first published at 5:30pm

The number of seats for premium ticket holders could more than double at Allianz Stadium once it was knocked down and rebuilt, documents released under a parliamentary order reveal.

A preliminary assessment of the Allianz redevelopment, prepared by KPMG for the Office of Sport in September 2017, show premium seat numbers could increase from 2905 to 6154.

The number of general admission seats would increase from 31,502 to 33,008 and members' seats would increase from 5851 to 6274. A new stadium would take 30 months to build, the documents also show.

The documents were made available to the NSW upper house on Friday after the government was forced to support the opposition’s motion for their release when Liberal MP Matthew Mason-Cox threatened to cross the floor of Parliament.Mr Mason-Cox had been a vocal opponent of his government’s stadium policy, which initially involved spending $2.5 billion on two new stadiums in the city’s east and west.

But Premier Gladys Berejiklian and her Sports Minister, Stuart Ayres, revised that plan just before Easter and the government will now replace Allianz with a 40,000- to 45,000-seat stadium at a cost of $729 million, and spend $810 million renovating ANZ in Olympic Park, making it a rectangular field.The government has already spent $200 million on buying back ANZ Stadium from its private operators and is spending $300 million on a new 30,000-seat stadium at Parramatta.

The Opposition Leader in the upper house, Adam Searle, said the proposed new stadium would never be full despite the “massive price tag”.

“The community will rightly be angered that there will be fewer seats for them, but more for the big end of town,” Mr Searle said.

“This tells us everything about Gladys Berejiklian’s priorities: she will always look after the few at the expense of the many.”

Also included in the documents were details of an email exchange between Mr Ayres and Sydney Cricket and Sports Ground Trust chairman Tony Shepherd. The trust lobbied hard for a new stadium at Moore Park.

The email reveals that Mr Ayres personally scripted responses for Mr Shepherd to justify their investment in rebuilding the Moore Park stadium.

Mr Shepherd had proposed saying the stadium was "not decayed" but Mr Ayres reworded the comment to emphasise it was "old and out of date".

Mr Ayres also personally scripted several answers in an email headed "my preferences" while writing "response okay" beside others.
 

The Marshall

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Sydney FC are playing some games at the SCG next year and they are moving the pitch to the northern end of the
ground. Im not really sure if it will increase atmosphere or make viewing angles better but it might be something for the Roosters to think about.
 
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Sydney FC are playing some games at the SCG next year and they are moving the pitch to the northern end of the
ground. Im not really sure if it will increase atmosphere or make viewing angles better but it might be something for the Roosters to think about.

That’s an east/west configuration, could be difficult for any roosters arvo games.
 

beave

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Wonder if the northern end of Mt Smart will get some proper seating like the southern end?
 

Jamberoo

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Sydney FC are playing some games at the SCG next year and they are moving the pitch to the northern end of the
ground. Im not really sure if it will increase atmosphere or make viewing angles better but it might be something for the Roosters to think about.
Surely it would make sense to move the pitch east or west so that the sideline is closer to one of the straight boundaries. Better for viewing angles, the pitch would be closer and no sun issues
 

morley101

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Wonder if the northern end of Mt Smart will get some proper seating like the southern end?


In 2016 this is what Jim Doyle said at the extension of the Warriors lease of MtSmart until 2028

Doyle said the terms of the agreement feature an undertaking for significant upgrading of the stadium and its facilities.

"This will include replacement seating, refurbishment of the dressing room facilities and a community classroom while the agreement also allows for replacement floodlights, a new big screen and a facelift for various areas of the stadium," he said.

"We're excited about what is in store as we work with the RFA to make Mount Smart Stadium the best home it can be for the Warriors."
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/77060291/warriors-to-remain-at-mt-smart-stadium-until-2028
 

jim_57

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What is the general attitude towards Mt Smart amongst Warriors fans?

Is it considered a 'spiritual home' that fans would be upset to ever move from? Or would the club and fans jump at the chance to play at a new modern stadium after 2028 if one was built like the proposed waterfront stadium?
 
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We're probably gonna get a run of these. The following article was published earlier this afternoon by the Sydney Morning Herald -

'Looking forward to catching up!' Stadium papers reveal who gets what
By Jacob Saulwick10 April 2018 — 3:44pm

Confused about Sydney’s stadium saga? Fair enough.

One of the striking elements of the battle to determine where taxpayer funds should be spent is the rate at which interested parties make claims, and then contradict those same positions.

Take the Sydney Cricket & Sports Ground Trust. Two years ago, the trust hoped taxpayers would pay for a new rectangular stadium on land under the management of the adjacent Centennial and Moore Park Trust.

The option of building a rectangular stadium on the same site as the existing Allianz Stadium would be a disaster, it said.

“A knockdown/rebuild on the existing site would result in an estimated $300 million in business disruption costs,” the SCG Trust said in a draft media statement prepared in April 2016, which it did not release.

“That $300 million of public money could be better spent elsewhere.”

But a knockdown/rebuild on the existing site is now the policy of the Berejiklian government. And the trust is thrilled.

What happened to the $300 million in “business disruption costs”? There’s been no explanation.

The April 2016 email emerged in a document dump triggered by the state Parliament. The dump reveals how a host of positions, once seemingly important, have been swept aside by events or changing priorities.

When former premier Mike Baird first said he would commit $1.6 billion to new stadiums, he said a governing body would be established to run stadium infrastructure.

The body was needed to prevent competition between the SCG Trust and the entities running other government-owned stadiums, which have since been consolidated into Venues NSW.


The hand-written note from Premier Gladys Berejiklian to SCG Trust chair Tony Shepherd, included in a NSW Upper House call for papers on Sydney stadiums.

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But this idea, too, has quietly been dropped, to the frustration of Paul Doorn, a former executive director of sport infrastructure at the NSW Office of Sport, who last year was appointed to run Venues NSW.

“The current dilemma for government on the priorities for the redevelopment of the stadia network (e.g. ANZS v Allianz) would not be a problem at all if there was just one governance structure for the whole of the stadia network,” Mr Doorn wrote to his former colleagues in the Office of Sport in July 2017, when it started to appear like Premier Gladys Berejiklian might shift the government’s position.

The papers released to the NSW Parliament have already revealed the occasionally ventriloquistic relationship between Sports Minister Stuart Ayres and the chairman of the SCG Trust, Tony Shepherd.

They also demonstrate the unequivocal support of the NRL and Football Federation Australia for Mr Baird’s April 2016 stadium policy, which prioritised the redevelopment of ANZ stadium at Olympic Park, and left for later a more modest upgrade of Allianz Stadium at Moore Park.

“FFA, while supporting the redevelopment of Allianz Stadium, has a strong preference for the development of ANZ Stadium to be prioritised and completed first,” FFA chief David Gallop wrote to Ms Berejiklian in August 2017.

NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg said the code supported ANZ as a priority, though safety and compliance issues at Allianz should be addressed.

“Should there be additional capital funding available for more expansive works, then we believe the best outcome for sport and taxpayers would be for the current Allianz Stadium to be knocked down and a new 35,000-seat, purpose-built rectangular stadium built in its place, similar to the new $360 million Western Sydney Stadium at Parramatta,” Greenberg wrote to Ms Berejiklian in September.

Instead, Ms Berejiklian committed in November to a $705 million, 45,000-seat stadium at Allianz.

In draft correspondence with members, the SCG Trust argued against building a new stadium with less than 40,000 seats. “If Sydney is to host FIFA and rugby world cups, there are requirements of stadia in the host city to have seating capacities of more than 40,000,” the trust wrote in a draft circular.

But in their correspondence with Ms Berejiklian, the Australian Rugby Union and NSW Rugby Union cite different figures for potential World Cup stadium requirements.

According to then ARU chief Bill Pulver and Waratahs chief Andrew Hore, the minimum seating capacity for a World Cup quarter-final is 35,000, rising to 60,000 for the semi-final and final.

Unlike the NRL and FFA, however, the rugby organisations strongly supported a new stadium at Moore Park as a priority over ANZ Stadium.

The parliamentary papers demonstrate the strength of public feeling about the government’s stadium policy, which is now to spend more than $2 billion on a new stadium at Moore Park, a new stadium at Parramatta, and an upgrade at Olympic Park. Ms Berejiklian’s office has received hundreds of written complaints.

The papers also demonstrate who, in the community, is able to receive a personalised response from a senior politician.

Mr Baird, for instance, took the time to scrawl “Stay in Touch!” in a reply to Roosters chairman Nick Politis, who had written to congratulate him on his April 2016 stadium-funding announcement, which had so angered the SCG Trust.

Ms Berejiklian, meanwhile, was pleased to receive a note from the Mr Shepherd of the trust, who wrote to congratulate her on becoming Premier, and to invite her to see why Allianz Stadium needed more attention than Mr Baird had given it.

“Looking forward to catching up soon!” she hand-wrote in a reply to Mr Shepherd.

“Let me know if it’s taking too long and I will move things along.”
 

Diesel

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What is the general attitude towards Mt Smart amongst Warriors fans?

Is it considered a 'spiritual home' that fans would be upset to ever move from? Or would the club and fans jump at the chance to play at a new modern stadium after 2028 if one was built like the proposed waterfront stadium?
It’s better than a Brookie but worse than Suncorp.

Fans would love a new CBD stadium for the Warriors to play at. Whether or not the government will shell out cash is another question
 

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