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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Perth Red

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It’s hard to see labor seeing this through. I can see a compromise where they don’t do allianz as they’ll claim it’s owned by the scg trust but rebuild anz into the countries premier stadium and claim it a victory for sports fans.

On a side note given Sydney is hardly going great guns in supporting the nrl can Greenberg really risk taking finals away from the city?
 

big hit!

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Also @big hit!, moving the corporate boxes is not the only important reason.

The roof is appalling

There’s hardly any female toilets

There’s no female changerooms

There are some safety considerations, particularly access/egress related.


Any refurb is going to run into the hundreds of millions.

i would like to see how access points are improved with a major road at one end, another stadium at the back of the other, and other accessory buildings on either side of it.

from what I've seen of the plans, it's just newer shit reorganised and designed by the same merkins that f**ked up this one.

to fit another stadium on this site, the stands should be the steepest in the land. it must go up but it looks like they're going to build another space-ship style facility - with corporate boxes in a prime position for greater revenue.
 

titoelcolombiano

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Wow! I'm really happy to see Greenberg and Beattie fighting for our sport. This has been sorely lacking from our leaders in the past.

Are the piss weak FFA and ARU going to fight with us on this? They will be the beneficiaries of these upgrades too, or are they just going to sit back and hope we get it over the line. They should be publically stating that NSW risk losing Socceroos and Wallabies matches also.
 

Quicksilver

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...s/news-story/a1dc5bd9361e534239b504d597e9458a

NRL rallies 200,000 fans to protest Labor’s stadium plans

Anna Caldwell & Dean Ritchie, The Daily Telegraph
in an hour


The NRL is prepared to go to war with Labor over plans to cut off government funding for Sydney stadiums with football bosses Todd Greenberg and Peter Beattie set to meet new leader Michael Daley on Tuesday to oppose the policy.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal the NRL is rallying 200,000 fans to protest Mr Daley’s refusal to spend $1.5 billion of taxpayer money on stadiums, with Mr Greenberg writing directly to league’s nine Sydney clubs urging them to loudly speak out.

The NRL has warned that any changes to the planned upgrade of Sydney’s major stadiums risks the future of 25 years of grand finals in the city.

It comes as Premier Gladys Berejiklian yesterday labelled Labor’s plan “reckless”, saying “who thinks it’s okay to have second or third class infrastructure? I don’t think it’s okay”.

Mr Daley told Daily Telegraph yesterday he was confident that he could strike a deal to keep grand finals in Sydney, pointing out the major matches were not played at Allianz anyway.

“The grand final and State of Origin are going nowhere. If I’m elected Premier I’ll work with the rugby league to make sure they do stay. But the stadiums are very big commercial entities and they need to be able to stand on their own two feet — there’s no reason why the taxpayers should have to fork out to keep topping them up,” he said.

Mr Daley expects the SCG Trust and ANZ stadium to finance their upgrades themselves, which would mean helping the Trust get a $730 million concessional loan if Allianz stadium is demolished as planned by March.

But The Daily Telegraph has obtained a letter in which Mr Greenberg blasts the new Labor leader over his position.

In the letter Greenberg writes: “I write to express to express the NRL’s disappointment about Labor’s opposition to investing in the Sydney stadia network. You may be aware that I recently wrote to you to congratulate you on your appointment as NSW Opposition Leader and to seek a meeting to discuss NSW Labor’s position on Sydney stadia.

“It is unfortunate that we were not able to meet and discuss this important issue before you announced Labor would withdraw all funding committed to the renewal of the Sydney Football Stadium and ANZ Stadium.

“Had we been able to meet, I would have explained that the NRL has an agreement with the NSW Government committing the NRL to play major event content including grand final, State of Origin and final series matches (where a Sydney based NRL Club is the home team) for the next 25 years in the Sydney stadia network, in exchange for the delivery of a new Western Sydney Stadium, new Sydney Football Stadium and refurbished rectangular ANZ Stadium.

“This content alone would deliver over $1.7 billion in economic benefit to the state.”

He reiterated his threat to take the grand final interstate, saying:

“Should Labor be elected at the next State election and renege on the committed Sydney stadia investments the NRL reserves its right to take the grand final to other States.”

The MoU requires new stadia at Moore Park, Western Sydney along with a major upgrade of Sydney Olympic Park.

It is understood Governments in Queensland and Victoria are already holding internal discussions about bidding for the NRL grand final.

Former Broncos, Queensland and Test forward Gorden Tallis said: “It would fantastic for Queensland, absolutely — a big boost for Queensland and Suncorp Stadium.”

Greenberg told Daley NSW’s stadiums were crumbling.

“NSW has fallen way behind Victoria, South Australia, Queensland and Western Australia which all have modern stadia,” Greenberg said.

“We want to play our premium content in the country’s best venues so that our fans and players get the world-class experiences they deserve.

“Unfortunately decades of neglect and poor planning means Sydney does not have the high quality venues befitting a city that pitches itself as Australia’s only global city.

“The current Government’s plans would go a long way to correcting this by 2022, however Labor’s policy would condemn Sydney and NSW to being Australia’s laggard for the foreseeable future.”

Rugby league premiership deciders have been played in Sydney since 1908 — the only exception being the 1997 Super League grand final in Brisbane.

Allianz Stadium has been decommissioned since September.

“Ultimately we want the current stadia agreement to proceed so that Sydney has the world class sporting venues that the state’s sporting fans deserve,” Greenberg wrote.

“Our strong preference is to see the new stadia built and to keep the grand final in NSW, but clearly if the agreement is not honoured we have to consider all options.

“We want our NRL grand final to be one of many major events on a Sydney sporting and entertainment calendar that is the envy of the world. However, we are not willing to make long term commitments to play our major events in venues that are not world class.

“On behalf of all rugby league fans I urge you to reconsider your position and remain willing to meet with you to discuss this important issue.”


Lol at the NRL wanting Sydney club members to get behind this when the consequence will be that they'll probably lose their traditional home grounds.

Eat a dick Toddy.
 

jargan83

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So the Federal Liberal Party are AIDS but apart from some Federal backlash are the NSW State Labor party likely to win the election?
 

Timbo

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So the Federal Liberal Party are AIDS but apart from some Federal backlash are the NSW State Labor party likely to win the election?

I dunno. NSW Labor are an absolute clusterf**k. They should be ahead by a thousand but keep tripping over their own feet.
 
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Lol at the NRL wanting Sydney club members to get behind this when the consequence will be that they'll probably lose their traditional home grounds.

Eat a dick Toddy.

Why? If Labor aren't going to spend money on ANZ or the SFS do you seriously think they'll spend it on Leichhardt Oval, Brookvale, Campbelltown and Panthers stadiums? They most certainly won't. Bit hard to play on a ground which is a safety hazard which some of those grounds are close to becoming.
 
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The best political solution here would be axing the trust. Then it takes away the angle that this stadium is for the elites.

It’s unlikely, for sure. However there has been some talk in recent times that the Trust is past it’s used by date.

There's an opinion piece in today's Herald recommending Labor do just that should they win the NSW election and put the management of the SCG lands under Venues NSW who look after the other NSW Government owned stadiums anyway. The SCG Trust historically have done more to harm rugby league's interest than anyone else (have a read about how they kyboshed the NSWRL's plan to build their own stadium in St Peters in the 1950s-60s as an example.)
 
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Quicksilver

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Why? If Labor aren't going to spend money on ANZ or the SFS do you seriously think they'll spend it on Leichhardt Oval, Brookvale, Campbelltown and Panthers stadiums? They most certainly won't. Bit hard to play on a ground which is a safety hazard which some of those grounds are close to becoming.

Maybe they will, maybe they won't.

But the NRL have tried to railroad outer-suburb clubs and grassroot fans with this.

They might get a shock if they think those same people are going to rally behind them and their corporate mates who desperately want a new wine bar in the Eastern Suburbs.
 

LineBall

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Wow! I'm really happy to see Greenberg and Beattie fighting for our sport. This has been sorely lacking from our leaders in the past.

Are the piss weak FFA and ARU going to fight with us on this? They will be the beneficiaries of these upgrades too, or are they just going to sit back and hope we get it over the line. They should be publically stating that NSW risk losing Socceroos and Wallabies matches also.

I would say they will continue to do what they have been doing up till now. Sweet F A.

Reading the comments from those opposing the new stadia in the SMH, it’s apparent that a lot of them believe the NRL are the bad guys. Rugby and soccer never get a mention. Those two codes will be happy to sit back and let the NRL cop it until after the election.
 

titoelcolombiano

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This situation has the stink of ARU and AFL corruption all over it.

  • SCG has received numerous upgrades of late which has benefited most of all the Swans and AFL
  • GWS got Spotless done for them which benefitted AFL
  • Stadiums are proposed that will benefit above all RL and all of a sudden there is backlash generated by RU and AFL stooges which outrages the public
  • NRL left looking greedy in the eyes of the public when there are two other sports that will use the venues which benefits the image of RU and AFL
  • If Labor gets in the stadia are not redeveloped and the AFL and RU get what they really want - the NRL GF gone from Sydney which would be to the detriment of RL in the city
NRL in a lose / lose situation if labor get up. Backdown and continue to play the GF and Origin at an unsuitable stadium with their major rival AFL having two perfectly suitable stadia or take the GF out of Sydney and the public lose a major feeling of ownership of the game in our country's largest city and the game's largest market.
 
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Maybe they will, maybe they won't.

But the NRL have tried to railroad outer-suburb clubs and grassroot fans with this.

They might get a shock if they think those same people are going to rally behind them and their corporate mates who desperately want a new wine bar in the Eastern Suburbs.

Oh ok. The mantra against spending billions on stadiums instead of schools and hopsitals viz-a-viz the SFS and ANZ Stadiums that the NSW ALP have been spouting for months will mysteriously go away if given to upgrade Leichhardt, Brookvale, Kogarah, Panthers and Campbelltown instead eh? As Darryl Kerrigan would say "tell him he's dreaming' ."
 

TheFrog

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Greenberg said:
Greenberg told Daley NSW’s stadiums were crumbling.

I wonder if he saw today's pics of water gushing into the busiest undergound train station in Australia? Opened 56 years prior to the SFS and in use every single day and night, this is what you call crumbling. Not that he would care of course, but if I were using or working in Town Hall station, I'd be very worried. THIS is where the taxpayer billions should be going.
 
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I wonder if he saw today's pics of water gushing into the busiest undergound train station in Australia? Opened 56 years prior to the SFS and in use every single day and night, this is what you call crumbling. Not that he would care of course, but if I were using or working in Town Hall station, I'd be very worried. THIS is where the taxpayer billions should be going.
Lol you can't prevent rain like today.
 
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