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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

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It's as you say a prototype,not the final one.
If they finally decide to have next to no cover, they are deluded.Just plain dumb.
I got friggin drenched at the SFS when they staged on of the first SOO's there.In one of the best seats.

If it were me .I'd rip the SFS down and build a WS Stadium type one.30,000 all up.With cover.

Mate the ever first event at the SFS when it opened in 1988 was the Roosters v Dragons. It pissed down all night and just about all of 19k crowd got soaked, even those in the members. It was shown on opening night it could not provide anywhere near adequate cover for the patrons.
 

Pommy

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It would have reached its use-by date by then. Replacing stadiums every 30 years is appalling use of taxpayer money. If private business pays for it, well and good, but it doesn't. Town Hall station is still waiting to be replaced and its been there since 1932.

Replacing them because of some date pulled out of the air sounds very wasteful.
I don’t disagree that replacing stadiums every 30 years is a bad idea, that just reflects on how this state is at building infrastructure.
Just putting up with shit infrastructure isn’t a positive either.
 

TheFrog

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Replacing them because of some date pulled out of the air sounds very wasteful.
I don’t disagree that replacing stadiums every 30 years is a bad idea, that just reflects on how this state is at building infrastructure.
Just putting up with shit infrastructure isn’t a positive either.
That's what I was saying about Town Hall. They could try putting in a few ladies toilets and sprucing the joint up a bit. Anyway, Gladys and her goons are doing their best to ensure that it is already too late.
 

Canard

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Actually it doesn't. It has one that holds 30,000 less than ANZ and that's it. The Townsville one isn't built yet but from what I hear the one still in use is pretty average. Unless there's this beaut stadium at Ipswich or Redcliffe that no-one outside those places knows about. The one the Titans took their game to last year at Gladstone was pretty sad.

The home of RL?

Robina is a better rectangular stadium then anything in Sydney.
 

taipan

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I got drenched at the 1990 major semi final when the ground was just two years old. Couldn't have cared less. Maybe the Origin game was a bit on the boring side. Or maybe we are getting soft.

You may like getting showered with the wet stuff, but families generally don't.

I love the water and surfing, but I do it where it's supposed to be done, not at a dilapidated SFS, with dunnies that are pathetic for women, roof coverage non existent and insufficient exits in case of an emergency ,apart from structural issues.
Not a case of getting softer case of 21st century expectations from the majority of people who attend venues.
 

Crippler

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06...ands-extra-beds-to-help-crowded-jails/7515336

$3.8Billion to keep the criminals abit more comfortable

More of my tax payer dollars going to something i hopefully will never use.

1.2 Million a bed. Must be a Presidential Suite for all the Convicts.

https://www.budget.nsw.gov.au/sites..._2-Infrastructure Statement-Budget_201819.pdf

Pisses me off Stadiums are the only thing complained about when there is Billions spent elsewhere that

still such a small number over 30 years considering theres $87.2 Billion allocated spending in NSW over next 4 years alone.
 

magpie_man

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You may like getting showered with the wet stuff, but families generally don't.

I love the water and surfing, but I do it where it's supposed to be done, not at a dilapidated SFS, with dunnies that are pathetic for women, roof coverage non existent and insufficient exits in case of an emergency ,apart from structural issues.
Not a case of getting softer case of 21st century expectations from the majority of people who attend venues.

Your wasting your time with this one taipan old mate; once the "we're getting soft" line comes out you may as well leave them their halycon memories that are dwindling into dementia.
 

Crippler

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With the ease of Streaming NRL live on phone and TVs with Kayo etc. It is making it incredibly easy for Families to just stay at home to watch the game for much cheaper. Especially with Sydney in the top 10 most expensive cities in the world.

We must have MODERN stadiums which offers a unique experience that cant be replicated at home.

A roofed stadium is a great start at ANZ as well as LED curtains that can give the stadium a smaller and more atmospheric feel.

If we cant do that then use the $2.5 billion and we could build about another 6 Western Sydney type stadiums for the remaining Sydney teams to share amongst.

Would rather 1 modern Awesome stadium shared amongst 6 teams is my personal preference.
 

taipan

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Your wasting your time with this one taipan old mate; once the "we're getting soft" line comes out you may as well leave them their halycon memories that are dwindling into dementia.

Correct we gotta be tough.Nothing like the good old days where men were men.Bring back the muddy Pratten Park fields ,and p*ssing in the empty Toohey's cans on the old SCG Hill at GF time because the toilets were inadequate or too far to get to.Hurling half eaten pies at numpties who blocked the view.
Why they burnt Parra stadium down, I'll never know, it was a national treasure.

Just the ideal place to bring your girlfriend or missus.
 

Crippler

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One thing i would like explained by the NSW Labor Party

While you were in power why didnt you reconfigure the ground 19 years ago to rectangular like we are doing now.

I'm sure it would have been alot cheaper than $850 Million back then. And we wouldnt even be having this debate right now.
 

beave

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Actually it doesn't. It has one that holds 30,000 less than ANZ and that's it. The Townsville one isn't built yet but from what I hear the one still in use is pretty average. Unless there's this beaut stadium at Ipswich or Redcliffe that no-one outside those places knows about. The one the Titans took their game to last year at Gladstone was pretty sad.

The home of RL?

suncorp and robina shit on anything in NSW bar the upcoming new Parra.

Suncorp 30k less than ANZ?? big deal, you never fill it except for the big games
and even then Suncorp charges way more for the equivalent tickets for origin so they’d make just as much money off the event even with the capacity being lower. And with the other stadium, I was speaking in preperation as the new NQ stadium is only 12 months away. you knew what i meant.

But even in retrospect, 1300’s still shits on Brooky, Penrith, Leichhardt, Shark Park, Campbo...... it’s on par with Canberra and only Newy is better than it for the sub 40k crowd capacity. Your state is so far behind the stadium times, even the shit bag QLD govs know the importance of decent rectangular venues.

home of RL is Sydney, you live
near the f**king place, I’m sure you’ve heard of it?........
 
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TheFrog

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But even in retrospect, 1300’s still shits on Brooky, Penrith, Leichhardt, Shark Park, Campbo
I've never been there to be honest. It's a bit out of my way. I was going on what Cowboys fans have said. But if it is better than Penrith (and be honest, have you ever been there and if so what is wrong with it?), why did you so badly need a new one? Because JT said so?
 
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TheFrog

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Robina is a better rectangular stadium then anything in Sydney.
Yeah it looks nice, its only a few years old though, and I'm not being asked to contribute $300 plus interest to it. I'd love to see the Titans do well and fill it up occasionally.
 

beave

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I've never been there to be honest. It's a bit out of my way. I was going on what Cowboys fans have said. But if it is better than Penrith (and be honest, have you ever been there and if so what is wrong with it?), why did you so badly need a new one? Because JT said so?

I’ve had the pleasure of living in sydney for 10 years of my 39, and spent many a saturday night at Penrith stadium as I lived a stones throw away, my last game there was 2 years ago on a work trip when the Cowbs played there. My issues with Penrith, capacity is ordinary for a city/area that size but it is what it is. The ends are in dire need of a revamp, the eastern corporate boxes are woefully inadequate, the western extension has made that side barely passable. Concession areas are okay but the few areas I went were pretty slow, there was not much automation with the beer pouring. I liked going to games there don’t get me wrong but not much has changed in 30 years there. Penrith fans are generally great though, was always good friendly bantering with them. I’m sure penrith fans would have many other gripes but not being a regular there, those are my observation of the joint as an outsider.

On NQ’s new situation. I’ll try to keep this brief but I grew up next to it and went to school next to it so I am aware of it’s history.

It was originally a harness racing track about 20kms west of the city. The state gov gave us the whole complex that had a grandstand and nothing else and told ‘build it yourselves’. The main stand where they film from and where the players run out from was never designed to hold 3700 people as it’s first version was only made to hold about 1500 people. The corporate area in there is woefully inadequate for a team this day and age, and the emergency/fire egress is borderline failing code from what I have been told by people in the know.

The players never originally ran out from that grandstand as there was no ‘tunnel’ or change room facilities in there so they cut through the concrete of the stand to make a tunnel (my old neighbours lost their seats due to the cutting of the stand) and they had to retro build change rooms during the 95/96 off season. I’ve been in there and they’re pretty small and cramped for todays standards.

The stadium was basically made on the cheap by locals who donated equipment and workers in exchange for season tickets for life. The toilets are atco huts bolted to the side of a hill, there is not enough female toilets, there’s honestly not enough toilets full stop. there is only roof coverage for about 15% of the 25.5k seats. A team located in the tropics, it has the potential to be torrential rain in the first 2 months of the season. Retro fitting a roof on the stands is out of the question as they were not designed to have a roof bolted on them and would be destroyed in a cyclone.

The location of 1300’s is shit, all the hotels are in the city and it can take 45mins or so on game night to get back into the city if the traffic is shit. The traffic gridlocks before and after games as the main road out the front is single lane, the area was never meant to have a 25k venue located in it.

There is nothing else around 1300’s of note for pre and after entertainment other than brothers leagues and a shitbox suburban pub called Finngans which is very ordinary.

The new one is going to have a roof covering the majority of people, the location is superb (in the middle of the city where all the accomodation and nightlife is) and will be modern, will have a bus depot 2 mins walk away, double laned roads all around to alleviate gridlocks before and after games, and overall is the catalyst for other development in the town. It’s struggling deluxe up there at the moment with jobs, I have an investment property up there as I intend to move back home one day and it has gone down in value big time.

It’s more than just a stadium, it’s about trying to get some shit going in the city.

It’s the location we should have had from the f**king start tbh.

Snide remarks about ‘JT said so’ and the fact you haven’t been up there for a game shows a bit of ignorance.
 
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Pommy

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I’ve had the pleasure of living in sydney for 10 years of my 39, and spent many a saturday night at Penrith stadium as I lived a stones throw away, my last game there was 2 years ago on a work trip when the Cowbs played there. My issues with Penrith, capacity is ordinary for a city/area that size but it is what it is. The ends are in dire need of a revamp, the eastern corporate boxes are woefully inadequate, the western extension has made that side barely passable. Concession areas are okay but the few areas I went were pretty slow, there was not much automation with the beer pouring. I liked going to games there don’t get me wrong but not much has changed in 30 years there. Penrith fans are generally great though, was always good friendly bantering with them. I’m sure penrith fans would have many other gripes but not being a regular there, those are my observation of the joint.

On NQ’s new situation. I’ll try to keep this brief but I grew up next to it and went to school next to it so I am aware of it’s history.

It was originally a harness racing track about 20kms west of the city. The state gov gave us the whole complex that had a grandstand and nothing else and told ‘build it yourselves’. The main stand where they film from and where the players run out from was never designed to hold 3700 people as it’s first version was only made to hold about 1500 people. The corporate area in there is woefully inadequate for a team this day and age, and the emergency/fire egress is borderline failing code from what I have been told by people in the know.

The players never originally ran out from that grandstand as there was no ‘tunnel’ or change room facilities in there so they cut through the concrete of the stand to make a tunnel (my old neighbours lost their seats due to the cutting of the stand) and they had to retro build change rooms during the 95/96 off season. I’ve been in there and they’re pretty small and cramped for todays standards.

The stadium was basically made on the cheap by locals who donated equipment and workers in exchange for season tickets for life. The toilets are atco huts bolted to the side of a hill, there is not enough female toilets, there’s honestly not enough toilets full stop. there is only roof coverage for about 15% of the 25.5k seats. A team located in the tropics, it has the potential to be torrential rain in the first 2 months of the season. Retro fittting a roof on the stands is out of the question as the were not designed to have a roof bolted on them and would be destroyed in a cyclone.

The location of 1300’s is shit, all the hotels are in the city and it can take 45mins or so on game night to get back into the city if the traffic is shit. The traffic gridlocks before and after games as the main road out the front is single lane, the area was never meant to have a 25k venue located in it.

There is nothing else around 1300’s of note for pre and after entertainment other than brothers leagues and a shitbox suburban pub called Finngans which is very ordinary.

The new one is going to have a roof covering the majority of people, the location is superb (in the middle of the city where all the accomodation and nightlife is) and will be modern, will have a bus depot 2 mins walk away, double laned roads all around to alleviate gridlocks before and after games, and overall is the catalyst for other development in the town. It’s struggling deluxe up there at the moment with jobs, I have an investment property up there as I intend to move back home one day and it has gone down in value big time.

It’s more than just a stadium, it’s about trying to get some shit going in the city.

It’s the location we should have had from the f**king start tbh.

Snide remarks about ‘JT said so’ and the fact you haven’t been up there for a game shows a bit of ignorance.

Sounds like a waste of taxpayers money to be honest. How’s the train station?
 

Pommy

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That's what I was saying about Town Hall. They could try putting in a few ladies toilets and sprucing the joint up a bit. Anyway, Gladys and her goons are doing their best to ensure that it is already too late.

I don’t really understand what point you’re making about town hall.
The public transport in Sydney is dire, town hall station doesn’t even come close to being a priority for me.
 

beave

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Sounds like a waste of taxpayers money to be honest. How’s the train station?

the train station is about 5mins walk away....... it’s not as grand as Town Hall but it’ll do


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