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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

taipan

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The key is in the article, content.

Melbourne has 3 venues for its 15 pro AFL/cricket/NRL/Aleague/Union teams

Sydney has 10 venues for its 16 pro teams.

If Sydney had better road and rail infrastructure direct to stadiums or nearby, and not geographically spread or divided by harbours,and rivers, and had forward thinking politicians in the past, we'd be close to what Melbourne has got.

Melbourne was always a better planned city.Sydney has always been a reactionary mishmash of development.We are paying for a hundred years of crap planning.
 
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If Sydney had better road and rail infrastructure direct to stadiums or nearby, and not geographically spread or divided by harbours,and rivers, and had forward thinking politicians in the past, we'd be close to what Melbourne has got.

Melbourne was always a better planned city.Sydney has always been a reactionary mishmash of development.We are paying for a hundred years of crap planning.

Melbourne was much easier to plan, though. It’s flat, makes things simpler.

Look at most flat cities around the world and they’re built on a grid system, where as in Sydney you hadn’t major geographic hurdles. Highways had to follow ridges, the harbour is a huge impediment. And the distances are crazy.
 
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If Sydney had better road and rail infrastructure direct to stadiums or nearby, and not geographically spread or divided by harbours,and rivers, and had forward thinking politicians in the past, we'd be close to what Melbourne has got.

Melbourne was always a better planned city.Sydney has always been a reactionary mishmash of development.We are paying for a hundred years of crap planning.


To be fair, Melbourne was a planned city from day one unlike Sydney that was a dumping ground for convicts, who were left there to die.
 
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To be fair, Melbourne was a planned city from day one unlike Sydney that was a dumping ground for convicts, who were left there to die.

The only substantive planning for anywhere really was by Governor Lachlan Macquarie in the early 19th century. He was the one that oversaw the planning of the grid layout of streets we have in the current Sydney CBD.
 

Quidgybo

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Put the stadium in Liverpool and you'll have the A League team, Bulldogs and Tigers there full time if not close to.
But the A-League franchise wasn’t awarded to Liverpool. It was specifically awarded to Macarthur South West based at Campbelltown. If the team had been based at Liverpool, significantly closer to the Wanderers catchment, the FFA May very well have gone with a different bid. I doubt the A-League would support a stadium at Liverpool on that basis.

Leigh.
 
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But the A-League franchise wasn’t awarded to Liverpool. It was specifically awarded to Macarthur South West based at Campbelltown. If the team had been based at Liverpool, significantly closer to the Wanderers catchment, the FFA May very well have gone with a different bid. I doubt the A-League would support a stadium at Liverpool on that basis.

Leigh.

True not to mention that I fully expect MSWS will be a failed enterprise from the get go who will hold almost zero sway in stadia planning discussions
 

azza29

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So the clubs and stadiums are getting form in more often. Meanwhile, the NRL only wants home fans to come and we are surprised when crowds are shit.
Remember hearing about clubs offering half price tickets to away team members in the past, does this still happen?
 

Suitman

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But the A-League franchise wasn’t awarded to Liverpool. It was specifically awarded to Macarthur South West based at Campbelltown. If the team had been based at Liverpool, significantly closer to the Wanderers catchment, the FFA May very well have gone with a different bid. I doubt the A-League would support a stadium at Liverpool on that basis.

Leigh.

That is correct. Not to forget that the MSWS bid has a very rich benefactor who has promised to put funds into a Campbelltown Stadium upgrade. Whether it happens or not is a different story.
More pie-in-the-sky me thinks. But, we shall see.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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The only substantive planning for anywhere really was by Governor Lachlan Macquarie in the early 19th century. He was the one that oversaw the planning of the grid layout of streets we have in the current Sydney CBD.

The story i heard was that Maquarie deliberately prevented any town center from forming.

He feared that if the people began to congregate in one place, they would start talking about rebellion.

Ironically, creating a city with no center meant creating a city with no sence of unity. The people are more loyal to their council since everyone hates the State gov and our parties are the most libertarian/anti-government in the country.
 

Perth Red

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If Sydney had better road and rail infrastructure direct to stadiums or nearby, and not geographically spread or divided by harbours,and rivers, and had forward thinking politicians in the past, we'd be close to what Melbourne has got.

Melbourne was always a better planned city.Sydney has always been a reactionary mishmash of development.We are paying for a hundred years of crap planning.

That’s only part of the issue though, the bigger one is Sydney clubs reluctance to share stadia. In reality you could have 7 clubs sharing two stadia

WSS
Wests
Eels
Bulldogs
Manly (or allianz)

Allianz
Souths
Roosters
St’s (Sydney games)

But there is a massive reluctance by clubs to do so and they continue to play out of crappy grounds either too big, anz or too small/antiquated.

Of course having stupid scheduling like Thursday nights and Friday 6pm games doesn’t help fans feel they can get to these venues.
 

Suitman

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Had to do a double take on the pic, thought for a second they were AFL posts in the right hand corner.

TBH mate, I think we should ignore any reference to that sport in this thread.
They have so far f**ked up so much of our stadium infrastructure in this State it ain't funny. Them and the compliant, suck up politicians.
This is a true NRL, Rugby and Football stadium. Let's leave it at that.
 

VictoryFC

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The A-League can thank Mr Um-Ah for that. Worst sports administrator ever.

Yeah, Gallop is the reason.....maybe it has something to do with the fact that the A-League is the 47th soccer league in the world measured by revenue generated. 47th. That's the reason it'll never amount to anything. But certainly, having a tenant in summer can absolutely help the NRL improve facilities across the league.

Anyway, that image above from taipan is godly. Best stadium in Australia. Suncorp aint shit.
 

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