The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Pommy]

Ideal corporate boxes and a perfect new roof do not equate to "needed to be rebuilt". Safety, seating, womens toilets sure those things are essential for a stadium. I think it could have been done a lot cheaper than they are making out and it could have stayed 40k and been an impressive stadium which it already was anyway except for the "safety issues" which clearly werent that big of a deal.

What was impressive about it?

 

[T-Boon]

What was impressive about it?

It was the best rectangular stadium in the country for many years until Suncorp was built. It had good capacity (40K) and good views of the game from basically everywhere. Produced a fine atmosphere.

 

[Pommy]

It was the best rectangular stadium in the country for many years until Suncorp was built. It had good capacity (40K) and good views of the game from basically everywhere. Produced a fine atmosphere.

Wembley stadium was one of the best stadiums in the world with a great atmosphere at the 66 World Cup final. Didn’t mean it wasn’t ready to be demolished.

 

[herbert henry1908]

It was the best rectangular stadium in the country for many years until Suncorp was built. It had good capacity (40K) and good views of the game from basically everywhere. Produced a fine atmosphere.

Yep, but it was designed in 1984, by the time this new stadium opens that’s an almost 40 year old design.

 

[T-Boon]

Wembley stadium was one of the best stadiums in the world with a great atmosphere at the 66 World Cup final. Didn’t mean it wasn’t ready to be demolished.

I am guessing just prior to Wembley being knocked down it was still extremely impressive.

So your earlier question to me "what was impressive about it?" still got answered in your face.

 

[Pommy]

I am guessing just prior to Wembley being knocked down it was still extremely impressive.

So your earlier question to me "what was impressive about it?" still got answered in your face.

I mean I dispute your opinions but an opinion can’t be wrong.
SFS was the best stadium in Sydney for a long time, that doesn’t make it good.

 

[T-Boon]

Yep, but it was designed in 1984, by the time this new stadium opens that’s an almost 40 year old design.

Sure, but it was still fine. Minus the "safety", womens toilets, old seats and corporate boxes. Could have just upgraded that stuff. Instead looks like we will have a smaller stadium.

 

[TheRam]

It’s not happening because it is soccer, it is happening because it is Victoria. We just get things done here.

Maybe, but doubtful. Business is business my friend and when in comes to making a quid in private real estate, Sydney has it all over Melbourne. If it is profitable our boys up here would have worked it out long before your boys even dreamt of turning their first sod of soil.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Sure, but it was still fine. Minus the "safety", womens toilets, old seats and corporate boxes. Could have just upgraded that stuff. Instead looks like we will have a smaller stadium.

A smaller stadium is a win in my view. Hope it happens.

 

[big hit!]

A smaller stadium is a win in my view. Hope it happens.

What many of you are forgetting is that about a certain number of seats need to be set aside for the trust. I'd say that's why it needs to be slightly bigger than WSS. At the SFS, the entire second tier of the Western stand was trust members wasn't it?

 

[herbert henry1908]

What many of you are forgetting is that about a certain number of seats need to be set aside for the trust. I'd say that's why it needs to be slightly bigger than WSS. At the SFS, the entire second tier of the Western stand was trust members wasn't it?

I’m not forgetting it, I’ve spoken about the issue in this thread heaps.

change the by-laws to require members to book seats, for most events the members is only ever half full. The excess seats can then be sold.

Alternatively I think 35k could work with the current members arrangements. There’s approx 8000 members, this would leave about 25k seats to sell after corporates are taken into account.

 

[VictoryFC]

Agree with the sentiment about SFS being in the 30k range. A Bankwest-like for SFS and ANZ to be 70k-80k. Best outcome for the game.

 

[Billythekid]

I’m not forgetting it, I’ve spoken about the issue in this thread heaps.

change the by-laws to require members to book seats, for most events the members is only ever half full. The excess seats can then be sold.

Alternatively I think 35k could work with the current members arrangements. There’s approx 8000 members, this would leave about 25k seats to sell after corporates are taken into account.

Seriously those changes need to happen. Building a stadium that’s way too big because trust members can’t be bothered showing up is a ludicrous waste of money and just a terrible impractical idea.

Agree with the sentiment about SFS being in the 30k range. A Bankwest-like for SFS and ANZ to be 70k-80k. Best outcome for the game.

Should have been that way from the start. Somewhere around 30-35K is plenty. ANZ is where the bulk of the money needs to go to future proof Sydney’s stadiums. I’m pretty sure we’re planning on bidding for big events like the soccer World Cup and Sydney needs a large world class stadium.

I do think potentially the money could be better used if spread across multiple grounds though. Spending 700+ million on just the SFS was a terrible idea when you consider you could basically afford 2 bankwest style stadiums for that money. Obviously that isn’t happening though.

 

[Quicksilver]

f**k.

I would so much rather the big games were held near the city.

Homebush is such a wasteland. Literally.

Nothing to do before or after. Just some shit sterile "Brewery".

 

[Quicksilver]

I think people really need to come to terms with the fact that money is not going to council owned grounds like Brookvale, Penrith and Campbelltown.

The money is going to Moore Park and Homebush and nowhere else. It’s about working out how to get maximum bang for buck from here.

No, I don't.

I live in a democracy, I'll continue to argue for what I think serves the people best.

I'm sure the government will come around with a big stinking pork barrel when one of these seats are critical enough.

 

[Last Week]

I mean I dispute your opinions but an opinion can’t be wrong.
SFS was the best stadium in Sydney for a long time, that doesn’t make it good.

On the contrary, most opinions are wrong.

 

[Rooster8]

I know this would never happen in Australia, specifically Sydney given both the size, orientation and significance of the SCG. But I've always found Leed's Headingley stadium pretty interesting given that both fields share essentially the same grandstand.

 

[TheFrog]

I’m pretty sure we’re planning on bidding for big events like the soccer World Cup

As if we're ever going to get the soccer world cup.

 

[TheFrog]

I'm sure the government will come around with a big stinking pork barrel when one of these seats are critical enough.

Penrith was critical in both state and federal elections but I didn't see a bumper being offered foe the stadium.

I think people really need to come to terms with the fact that money is not going to council owned grounds like Brookvale, Penrith and Campbelltown.

The problem, of course, is that ratepayers in Warringah, Kogarah, Penrith and Campbelltown local government areas (and Sharks Leagues club members as well) are expected to not only pay via council rates for their local grounds , but to pay for state Government owned grounds as well (that they do not use). Completely and utterly inequitable and the reason local councils are now keeping their coffers shut.

 

[unforgiven]

Penrith was critical in both state and federal elections but I didn't see a bumper being offered foe the stadium.


The problem, of course, is that ratepayers in Warringah, Kogarah, Penrith and Campbelltown local government areas (and Sharks Leagues club members as well) are expected to not only pay via council rates for their local grounds , but to pay for state Government owned grounds as well (that they do not use). Completely and utterly inequitable and the reason local councils are now keeping their coffers shut.

Not really, that is dumb argument as there are plenty of things my taxes and rates pay for that I don't use. In fact I could argue I contribute to Penrith Park when I don't use the ground.