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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

strong_latte

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It's a AFL dominated state. Let them keep it with yawnion

You're basically just admitting the NRL can never carve out a niche in an AFL state. That's like putting up the white flag and admitting you're inferior. I say f**k that, Rugby League is a better game full stop and NRL must have a growth strategy that includes our 4th largest city if it ever wants to command the same money as Victorian rules.
 

Pommy

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You don't understand Australian rain then.

Sydney = 1200mm

London = 600mm

Rain in the UK is typically light , rain in Sydney comes down much harder.

Plus it's not just for footy , it's for concerts & other events that require weather certainty.

I do get that but if your sat out in it for 90 minutes you get as wet. Plus in Sydney if you get wet the temperature is normally pretty decent and you don't mind. With the wind chill and already low temperatures the light rain soon feels a lot worse than this harder rain. Trust me I've experienced both.
I'm not saying a roof is a bad idea just that the money they are going to pump in to it seems unjustifiable. I can't see how it's ever going to pay for itself.
Do big bands not come to Sydney currently because there's no roof on ANZ? I went to watch AC/DC there last novemeber and it threatened to rain but people just bought ponchos. Glastonbury is one of the biggest events in music and its held on a farm where it's almost certain to rain every year.
By the time the inevitable cost over runs from Paramatta and ANZ are factored in I don't see much money being left for SFS.

As for the rainfall in London I'm not fussed about those poncy southerners Manchester has about 850 mm annually yet Old Trafford is sold out every other weekend with the Etihad half full the opposite weeks. No roof on either chance of pneumonia for the eliderly pretty high lol.
 
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catweasel

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You're basically just admitting the NRL can never carve out a niche in an AFL state. That's like putting up the white flag and admitting you're inferior. I say f**k that, Rugby League is a better game full stop and NRL must have a growth strategy that includes our 4th largest city if it ever wants to command the same money as Victorian rules.

Stop it. They don't deserve the greatest game of all.
 

strong_latte

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Stop it. They don't deserve the greatest game of all.

All I can say is that if the AFL had had that perspective on Sydney and not taken two bloody AFL sides up here I'd have been extremely happy as a rugby league fan.

The fact is Perth is growing at faster rate than any other city and will surpass Brisbane soon. A lot of that growth is due to migration from the Eastern states too, so if we want to win this war that's where we must go next if we have even the tiniest notion of what strategy is.
 

Jason Maher

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...hould-thank-stuart-ayres-20160416-go7wzn.html



He just cannot help but be self-serving...

If he was working for Wests, im sure Campbeltown would be the "true west" and im sure he'd say the same about Townsville if he thought it might get him the stadium he wanted.

Good on him for advocating for his interest, but he needs to acknowledge that it is HIS interest, not some wider true everyone else is just too thick to understand. If Penrith Stadium did get the redevelopment, it would still have only the one tenant and it would still be a small outer-suburb.

If the best argument he can come up with is "Parra is halfway between the CBD and Penrith, therefore it isnt WEST..." I would counter by saying Penrith is halfway between the CBD and Duckmaloi, why not have the stadium out there in the "REAL west"??

Hell, forget where the people are. Put it out in Broken Hill; the REEEEEEEEEEEAL west........

I wonder what odds I could have gotten on someone referring to Duckmaloi in a post on LU?
 

RoosTah

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Perth is an absolute must. Adelaide would be a waste of time without a solid 10 year investment in junior and club development for the SARL, but Perth has had plenty done already and arguably have enough of a foundation as it is. With the way the current broadcast contract is structured, the NRL can expand and so it would be perfect from a business standpoint to have a Perth GF the year before the Pirates were added to the comp.

Just the buzz and everything it would create would be brilliant.
 

Warriors Fever

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Hill is an idiot. The soccer benefit from stadium upgrades anyway.

Wanderers ground = upgrade.

Sydney FC = happy to keep Allianz as is.

ANZ now being reconfigured into an awesome place to watch big soccer games.

There are no other soccer teams in Sydney worth worrying about Simon.

This, some of their whinging is borderline toddler like, if you've ever invested time at the soccer tab at The Roar you'd understand the delusions of grandeur a lot if them posses
 

alien

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with the large amount of rabbitohs supporters in the liverpool macarthur area, i would like to see the rabbitohs have a game at campbelltown stadium every year. there are actually more rabbitohs supporters in western sydney than in the actual south sydney area now. i would have 9 games at anz stadium, 1 at campbelltown stadium, 1 at perth, 1 at adelaide

Push to have Campbelltown Stadium used
April 15, 2016 - 5:00pm
Macarthur Chronicle Campbelltown
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Campbelltown Sports Stadium. Picture: Campbelltown City Council images

Campbelltown state Labor MP Greg Warren is advocating for the increased use of Campbelltown Stadium while other Sydney grounds are upgraded over the next few years.

An announcement by NSW Premier Mike Baird last week lays out an allotment of $1.6 billion in funding to upgrade ANZ Stadium at Olympic Park for $700 million and Parramatta Stadium for $300 million.

With the remaining funds, Allianz Stadium at Moore Park will be upgraded. Mr Baird said works will begin on the stadia strategy within the next three years.

In a letter to NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg, Mr Warren spoke about the facilities in and around the stadium, including an adjacent train station.

“Further to my longstanding position that the stadium should be a more permanent fixture for Wests Tigers ... I also feel that Campbelltown has the capacity to provide a real interim solution to host other clubs to play whilst their respective stadiums and home grounds are either being renewed or replaced,” he said.

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The proposal would have ANZ Stadium transformed into a 75,000-seat rectangular stadium. Picture: Supplied

Mr Warren said he will continue to push for more than the current four games a year at the stadium.

“I think what I’m giving to Mr Greenberg is a good solution for the NRL.”

Campbelltown Chamber of Commerce president Rick Fitzpatrick said it was a great idea that would do wonders for business in the area but he felt it to be unlikely.

“I do hope we can have more games out at Campbelltown but I probably can’t see it happening,” he said.

“I think a lot of it will be done in stages and when another ground is needed, games will be moved to ANZ Stadium.”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...a1db3f415d1f4eef002848305#load-story-comments
 

Perth Red

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Yeh play more games in a stadium with no cover, limited seating, poor corporate facilities and a history of sub 10k crowds.. Campbelltown sure has a strong case for more games lol.

Surely Parra will be finished at some point during the ANZ rebuild and most Souths, Bulldogs and Tigers games will go there if need be?
 
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alien

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Yeh play more games in a stadium with no cover, limited seating, poor corporate facilities and a history of sub 10k crowds.. Campbelltown sure has a strong case for more games lol.

Surely Parra will be finished at some point during the ANZ rebuild and most Souths, Bulldogs and Tigers games will go there if need be?

shut up you smug bastard. i'm talking about 1 game a year where the rabbitohs have a strong number of supporters, and to play a game where the population is booming and an area that hasn't been treated very well. there would be more than 10,000 at the game, believe me. there is enough seating for 1 game and the facilities are fine there for 1 game (a lot better than where they have played in cairns). we aren't talking about the leichhardt shithole ffs
 

alien

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Give over if the games attracted a 1000 extra people every time it rains (which i think is an over estimation) it would take decades for the gate recipts to cover the cost of putting a roof over the entire place.

Us humans have this thing called skin which is waterproof and doesn't cost millions. If people are so concerned about getting a little damp they won't want to walk from the train station/car park getting wet either.

it's not an over estimation, and if they are going to spend the money anyway, i'd rather it go to something good, which it will

the walk from the station/carpark is only short. you are in the stadium for at least 2 hrs, and you don't want the seats wet either.
 

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And what dvkhead would be the advantage of Souths taking that game away from ANZ? They get paid handsomely by ANZ to play there, can entertain their sponsors in luxury and draw good crowds generally at ANZ so why would they take a game to a nsw cup standard ground?
 
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alien

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If the best argument he can come up with is "Parra is halfway between the CBD and Penrith, therefore it isnt WEST..." I would counter by saying Penrith is halfway between the CBD and Duckmaloi, why not have the stadium out there in the "REAL west"??

Hell, forget where the people are. Put it out in Broken Hill; the REEEEEEEEEEEAL west........

he is talking about the west of the SYDNEY area

and he is right. parra is around the centre of the sydney area. blacktown, penrith, the liverpool/badgerys creek area, campbelltown are the areas that are western sydney. the city is not central sydney
 

alien

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And what dvkhead would be the advantage of Souths taking that game away from ANZ? They get paid handsomely by ANZ to play there, can entertain their sponsors in luxury and draw good crowds generally at ANZ so why would they take a game to a nsw cup standard ground?

i said we should keep the 9 games at anz. i'm happy with anz stadium being our home, and look forward to the redevelopment. at the moment souths play 9 at anz stadium, 1 at cairns, 1 at perth, 1 at scg/sfs

i think it would be better to move that cairns game to adelaide because cairns is nth qld area anyway so that market is really taken already, and i don't want us playing against the cowboys up there. adelaide is an open market, and they have that good rectangular stadium there.

i'd move that weird scg/sfs game to campbelltown. the scg is shit for rugby league, and there are already 12 roosters games at the sfs.
 
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miguel de cervantes

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Francis Leech on Offsiders is spot on with the GWS being locked out of Homebush with this latest deal. They've basically put themselves in a cul-de-sac.
 

BlueandGold

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Francis Leech on Offsiders is spot on with the GWS being locked out of Homebush with this latest deal. They've basically put themselves in a cul-de-sac.

Just watched the Episode and nearly threw up in my lap at how taken in they are by these words..

Man these politicians know how to sucker the Victorians in hey, just plug there game say its the best and forever have them singing your praise.

Malcome Turnbull its just to easy to appease them isn't it mate... :lol::lol:

http://www.abc.net.au/sport/offsiders/content/2016/s4444823.htm

Have a listen, the bit about the AFL world Cup was especially eye opening to how delusional they are.

''The AFL is the massive looser'' i found quite funny also, like the AFL had a chance at that money in the first place...:crazy::crazy::lol:

''How does it happen that the AFL had no say'' the arrogance of these people is quite mind boggling to say the least.
 
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Warriors Fever

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And what dvkhead would be the advantage of Souths taking that game away from ANZ? They get paid handsomely by ANZ to play there, can entertain their sponsors in luxury and draw good crowds generally at ANZ so why would they take a game to a nsw cup standard ground?

Have you been to Campbeltown it's a lot better than some of the other suburban grounds, next to a station and easy to get to. Or do you think the nrl games in Sydney should be exclusively played out of anz and the sfs?
 

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