The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Pommy]

Allianz. ANZ hasn't even reached it yet.

ANZ probably reached its prime in 2000 when it was fit for purpose, it’s not getting any better as time goes on.
Hasn’t Allianz been declared a death trap?

 

[herbert henry1908]

It's one thing to build them. It's quite another to knock them down and build new ones when in the prime of their life.

The prime of Allianz stadium is long gone, and it was very short lived.

The stadium was designed before sports became full time professional, it has a number of significant flaws for a stadium in 2018.

Biggest ones being

Lack of cover
Corporate boxes in wrong spot
Lack of female toilets
Lack of female change rooms.

And there are some safety issues (not saying they’re dire, but they exist)



With all that said $740m for Allianz stadium is an absurd waste of money, I’d much rather see a replica of WSS built for $400m.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Allianz. ANZ hasn't even reached it yet.

ANZ stadium is a different situation to Allianz, the facilities are largely good. Toilets, change rooms, etc.

But the big problem is it’s an oval ground where no oval sports are played.

 

[herbert henry1908]

The Tigers have signed agreements with Campbelltown and the Inner Wests councils for the next two years to play 3 games at both Campbelltown and Leichhardt , so yes they do have to play that many games there, at least for the next two years.

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2018/09/14/wests-tigers-commit-to-suburban-grounds/

Fair enough, after that I think it’d be a good strategy for them to make WSS their main ground.

 

[siv]

and there was also the Sydney Bulldogs

And there used to teams called
- West Sydney
- North Sydney
- Sydney who played a full black jersey
- Sydney Bulls

There was also modern defunct club called Sydney City

 

[some11]

How many times have you been to them Frog?

Well he was bitching about not having a final at Penrith so probably never.

 

[thorson1987]

How many times have you been to them Frog?

Wouldn't even bother mate.

 

[Danish]

ANZ probably reached its prime in 2000 when it was fit for purpose, it’s not getting any better as time goes on.
Hasn’t Allianz been declared a death trap?

ANZ was building towards its primes in the naughties. Its potential first really started to be seen IMO in 2004 when the Roosters and Cowboys managed to get 43K there to our prelim. That was a special day, and an unexpectedly high crowd where 2 traditionally low drawing teams actually outdrew the Panthers vs Dogs at the SFS.

In 2005-2008 it started to really grow in stature with the easter games really packing them in, not to mention a resurgent souths and a successful dogs pulling big numbers.

The peak of ANZ IMO was the 2009 prelim featuring the dogs vs eels. 70k+ screaming fans packing the place out with genuine tribal atmosphere. The stadium was split down the middle with blue on one side and gold on the other. It looked and sounded glorious.

If the rebuild that was originally planned out when bidding for the world cup had gone ahead, bringing the stands in, adding a roof, and building an entertainment complex outside, then it could have really been a premier stadium.

As it stands now with the shelving of its knock down rebuild for the sake of the bloody SCG Trust, well, merkins f**ked

 

[herbert henry1908]

ANZ was building towards its primes in the naughties. Its potential first really started to be seen IMO in 2004 when the Roosters and Cowboys managed to get 43K there to our prelim. That was a special day, and an unexpectedly high crowd where 2 traditionally low drawing teams actually outdrew the Panthers vs Dogs at the SFS.

In 2005-2008 it started to really grow in stature with the easter games really packing them in, not to mention a resurgent souths and a successful dogs pulling big numbers.

The peak of ANZ IMO was the 2009 prelim featuring the dogs vs eels. 70k+ screaming fans packing the place out with genuine tribal atmosphere. The stadium was split down the middle with blue on one side and gold on the other. It looked and sounded glorious.

If the rebuild that was originally planned out when bidding for the world cup had gone ahead, bringing the stands in, adding a roof, and building an entertainment complex outside, then it could have really been a premier stadium.

As it stands now with the shelving of its knock down rebuild for the sake of the bloody SCG Trust, well, merkins f**ked

I think with ANZ it’s best left as a major event stadium when the refurbishment goes through, even more so if the refurb doesn’t happen.

The NRL should only be using it for Origin, The grand final, prelims & maybe 6 major games throughout the year

Games like

Dogs V Parra
Souths V Dogs
Tigers V Dogs
Souths V Tigers


Ideally for the regular season we’d see Souths move to the new Allianz & the Dogs move to WSS.

 

[Rooster8]

Anyone know the dates on when Allianz and ANZ are expecting to commence with the demolishment? Will this be one of allianz’s last games this Saturday? And will the gf be moved to Suncorp starting next year?

 

[big hit!]

Anyone know the dates on when Allianz and ANZ are expecting to commence with the demolishment? Will this be one of allianz’s last games this Saturday? And will the gf be moved to Suncorp starting next year?

As far as I'm aware, this is it.

Sydney FC aren't playing any matches there in season 18/19. Their first home match is the derby vs WSW at SCG in mid/late October

 

[Rooster8]

As far as I'm aware, this is it.

Sydney FC aren't playing any matches there in season 18/19. Their first home match is the derby vs WSW at SCG in mid/late October

Thought so, hopefully a full stadium for the final game.

 

[CC_Roosters]

http://www.anzstadium.com.au/footer...stadium-into-world-class-rectangular-stadium/

I was wandering what the seat pitch and distance would like post re-development of SOP. It appear from the video it's only really the lower bowl which is moving closer, with the upper tier pretty much as it is now. Really a half-assed job if it is as it appears and hard to justify $800m for that when a knock down re-build would deliver a purpose built rectangular ground

 

[Last Week]

I think with ANZ it’s best left as a major event stadium when the refurbishment goes through, even more so if the refurb doesn’t happen.

The NRL should only be using it for Origin, The grand final, prelims & maybe 6 major games throughout the year

Games like

Dogs V Parra
Souths V Dogs
Tigers V Dogs
Souths V Tigers


Ideally for the regular season we’d see Souths move to the new Allianz & the Dogs move to WSS.

It doesn't even need to be used for regular season club games.

State of Origin, the last 3 weeks of the finals and that's basically it. Otherwise, Parramatta Stadium is the goer and the future of half the Sydney teams.

 

[Rooster8]

It doesn't even need to be used for regular season club games.

State of Origin, the last 3 weeks of the finals and that's basically it. Otherwise, Parramatta Stadium is the goer and the future of half the Sydney teams.

Literally spot on. I don’t understand how upper management with tertiary degrees don’t understand this?

 

[JB04]

Literally spot on. I don’t understand how upper management with tertiary degrees don’t understand this?

I have degrees in management and economics and I completely get this and support this and can’t for the life of me understand how the top end managers and event coordinators at the NRL can’t see this

 

[herbert henry1908]

It doesn't even need to be used for regular season club games.

State of Origin, the last 3 weeks of the finals and that's basically it. Otherwise, Parramatta Stadium is the goer and the future of half the Sydney teams.

I think there are some regular season games we can use it for, Easter being a prime example.

If it’s marketed properly as a big event day we could aim for crowds 35-45k for some select games.

 

[Last Week]

I think there are some regular season games we can use it for, Easter being a prime example.

If it’s marketed properly as a big event day we could aim for crowds 35-45k for some select games.

Easter I'll give you, but only because of the off spill of the Easter Show.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I have degrees in management and economics and I completely get this and support this and can’t for the life of me understand how the top end managers and event coordinators at the NRL can’t see this

If you have a degree in economics you’ll understand why ANZ has been good for those clubs, they’ve been guaranteeing game day revenue.

But that’s likely about to change.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Easter I'll give you, but only because of the off spill of the Easter Show.

Point is if we can go well past 30k we shouldn’t completely turn our back on the stadium.

The refurb will still dramatically improve the stadium.