The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Timbo]

The issue with Marvel from memory is that they didn’t leave enough space under the turf for an adequate amount of soil before you get to concrete, which can’t be lowered due to there being an underground car park there.

Unless they go full hybrid/artificial turf there then there will always be an issue.

 

[Captain Apollo]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/03/25/lottoland-to-come-under-the-nrl-microscope/

Interesting thing to note from the above article -

Annesley produced some figures from the NRL's injury analysis reports over the past five seasons. During 2018 the grounds with the highest "percentage risk of injury" were Suncorp Stadium (8.0) Cbus Super Stadium (7.8) and Mt Smart (6.4). Lottoland came in at 4.4.

But in the list for the average games missed due to injury, Lottoland was the highest (4.9) followed by Penrith Stadium (4.3) and WIN Stadium (4.3).

 

[herbert henry1908]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/03/25/lottoland-to-come-under-the-nrl-microscope/

Interesting thing to note from the above article -

These are interesting stats, but they should be broken down by injury that could’ve been caused by dodgy surface. Ie. if someone does a shoulder or a pec, that shouldn’t be included.

 

[Mr Angry]

Shark Park > Renters injury traps.

 

[Jonno]

No reason to delay ANZ Stadium redevelopment any longer
Roy Masters
By Roy Masters

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/no-reason-to-delay-anz-stadium-redevelopment-any-longer-20190326-p517nl.html

The board of Venues NSW met early on Monday, confident the re-elected Berejiklian government would give the green light to a $810 million redevelopment of the Olympic Stadium at Homebush – but is unable to comment officially until its new boss is named.

The incumbent sports minister, Stuart Ayres, was re-elected to his seat of Penrith and may be promoted in cabinet following his successful sale of the state’s $2 billion stadium strategy to the electorate.

Former glory: ANZ Stadium was built to host the Sydney Olympics in 2000 and should have been reconfigured shortly after the Games.
Former glory: ANZ Stadium was built to host the Sydney Olympics in 2000 and should have been reconfigured shortly after the Games.CREDIT:ALLSPORT

The NRL, FFA and former NSW premier Mike Baird all supported the redevelopment of the Olympic Stadium ahead of a $700 million rebuild of Allianz Stadium but Ayres was pivotal in convincing the Berejiklian cabinet to send the bulldozers to Paddington first.

Labor leader Michael Daley made this "stadium splurge" the central plank of his election campaign, but it had minimal effect at the polling booth. While there is no official confirmation the $810 million allocated for the reconfiguration of Homebush into a rectangular venue will be spent, support for this has come from an unexpected quarter.

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Richard Colless, the AFL’s longest-serving club chairman and chairman of the Sydney Swans until 2013, said there is no justification in maintaining the Homebush stadium in its current circular shape.

"Any argument to keep the Olympic Stadium in its original oval configuration is puerile," he said, aware that AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan and GWS Giants chair, Tony Shepherd, would prefer the venue remain circular.

"The only justification the AFL can make is if the Giants win a home semi final against the Swans and need a ground that can hold an average of 65,000 people.

'The chances are a bit like Halley's Comet': A GWS-Swans AFL final is the only event that justifies an oval venue with a 60,000 capacity.
'The chances are a bit like Halley's Comet': A GWS-Swans AFL final is the only event that justifies an oval venue with a 60,000 capacity.CREDIT:MICHAEL WILLSON/AFL MEDIA

"The chances of that are a bit like Halley’s Comet." Shepherd is also the chairman of the Sydney Cricket Ground and Sports Ground Trust which has responsibility for the rebuilt Paddington stadium and has, therefore, already won a major victory. Colless can’t see him winning a second one.

"Given the stadia political discourse has been going for some time, particularly in the context of economic benefits for NSW, how any case could be mounted for anything other than a rectangular stadium at Homebush is beyond me," Colless said.

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"Given three sports (rugby league, rugby union and soccer) use a rectangular stadium and one sport is played on a circular ground, how can you say there is an economic benefit when the chances of using it for AFL are minimal?"

Colless, a very successful and long-term Sydney-based businessman, concedes he was an early proponent of retaining Homebush in the shape it was built to accommodate the Opening Ceremony of the Sydney Olympics in 2000. However, this was mainly about gaining competitive tension with the Swans’ landlord, the SCG Trust, over rental.

"Wearing my AFL hat, I pushed hard for a 15-year agreement with Homebush but circumstances have changed," the former Trust board member said.

John Quayle, a former ARL chief executive and a board member of Venues NSW, says, "The re-election of the government gives the people of NSW a once in a generation chance to have a rectangular stadia network equal to any across the nation. These multi-purpose venues can compete against other states in Australia in giving NSW the opportunity to bring big sport and entertainment events to Sydney and gain the economic benefits which follow."

Quayle was involved in the planning of the newly completed $360 million Western Sydney Stadium at Parramatta which will house 30,000; Allianz will have a capacity for 42,000 and the Olympic Stadium, 70,000. Sports and shows can therefore hire the size which suits from 2023.

Shape of things to come: An artist's impression of the new Allianz Stadium.
Shape of things to come: An artist's impression of the new Allianz Stadium.CREDIT:SCG TRUST

While Venues NSW awaits whether Ayres – who began his working life as an AFL Development Officer – will continue as Sports Minister, Quayle did reveal the Western Sydney Stadium was completed on time and on budget.

The contractor, Lend Lease, will, this week, hand the keys to the government’s building arm, Infrastructure NSW, who will pass them to Venues NSW, who, in turn, will deliver them to their final custodian, Venues Live.

Venues Live, the company which operates the Homebush stadium and also manages the new $1.5 billion stadium in Perth, will now have a month to prepare for the opening game on Easter Monday between the Eels and Wests Tigers.

The political debate over Allianz probably delayed the redevelopment of Homebush – a stadium built to watch shot putt on a big screen – by six months.

Had the western Sydney venue opened before the NSW election and voters witnessed TV images of fans streaming in to a sell-out, it would have demonstrated that Premier Berejiklian could build three stadiums and also win an election

 

[axl rose]

These are interesting stats, but they should be broken down by injury that could’ve been caused by dodgy surface. Ie. if someone does a shoulder or a pec, that shouldn’t be included.

This is the NRL & a former politician, don't be so logical.

 

[herbert henry1908]

We should know the ANZ situation fairly soon, it’s only 6 months until the bulldozers are set to roll in.

 

[Timbo]

We should know the ANZ situation fairly soon, it’s only 6 months until the bulldozers are set to roll in.

Yep. Hopefully it starts the day after the GF.

 

[beave]

knock the f**king thing down and finally build it properly.

 

[adamkungl]

Early days yet but no talk about further compromises to either project.
Gladys will drive this hard. The completed 3 stadiums, light rail, north-west metro and westconnex will undoubtedly form the cornerstone of her next election campaign.

 

[Marlins]

Yep. Hopefully it starts the day after the GF.

Metallica’s playing there on October 26th.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Metallica’s playing there on October 26th.

Their fans can get the job started then.

 

[Marlins]

Early days yet but no talk about further compromises to either project.
Gladys will drive this hard. The completed 3 stadiums, light rail, north-west metro and westconnex will undoubtedly form the cornerstone of her next election campaign.

And hopefully a promise of a new Penrith stadium for the following term.

 

[unforgiven]

And hopefully a promise of a new Penrith stadium for the following term.

I don't see enough benefit to justify a new stadium at Penrith!

 

[Timbo]

And hopefully a promise of a new Penrith stadium for the following term.

I think with the three major rebuilds in Sydney, sports infrastructure spending will be focused on regional areas for the next little while. Especially after the hammering the Nationals have been copping.

 

[TheEroticGamer]

Work on a new Penrith stadium will begin before the next state election.

They already have drafts of what it may look like. Gus said a few months back its based off Gold Coast's stadium.

They can subsidise the shit out of the bill as well.

Stadium 100% will happen soon.

 

[franklin2323]

Yep. Hopefully it starts the day after the GF.

It can't Metallica is booked in for end of Oct. after next GF is a better time it is closer to Allianz being finished. Takes the presure off WSS too

 

[franklin2323]

I think with the three major rebuilds in Sydney, sports infrastructure spending will be focused on regional areas for the next little while. Especially after the hammering the Nationals have been copping.

Carrington park is getting an upgrade for next season's Bathurst game and Elton John comcert. No reason other facilties can't get it either

 

[herbert henry1908]

It can't Metallica is booked in for end of Oct. after next GF is a better time it is closer to Allianz being finished. Takes the presure off WSS too

It doesn’t really help if ANZ is delayed by a year.

Either way a grand final has to go to the SCG. ANZ is a 2 year build, Allianz is a 3-4 year build. May as well start ASAP.

 

[Timbo]

Work on a new Penrith stadium will begin before the next state election.

They already have drafts of what it may look like. Gus said a few months back its based off Gold Coast's stadium.

They can subsidise the shit out of the bill as well.

Stadium 100% will happen soon.

Gus can say whatever he wants, but as long as it's a single tenant stadium I don't think the state government will be slinging the Panthers a quarter of a bill for a stadium just for them to use.