The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Vibing]

Canberra will absolutely be considered for the 20th team as it's the only market left in Australia that could realistically support an AFL side that doesn't already have one. Most Aussie Rules people also consider Canberra to be a heartland.

Whether or not Canberra will win the 20th license is another discussion (ATM my bet would be no BTW), but if allowed the AFL will definitely use the opportunity to string us along and extract more taxpayers dollars out of us for themselves.


Canberra has a good track record of showing up to the cricket, and if we had better facilities you'd see more cricket events moved to Canberra.

You can say that all you like, but it's not how democracy and free market capitalism works.

Canberra will absolutely be considered for the 20th team as it's the only market left in Australia that could realistically support an AFL side that doesn't already have one. Most Aussie Rules people also consider Canberra to be a heartland.

Canberra absolutely won't be considered with any seriousness for the reasons Ive put forward & who cares what fumble ball followers consider heartland , they're deluded halfwits who think they're taking over QLD FFS & their thoughts generally need to be treated with the LOL's they deserve.

Canberra has a good track record of showing up to the cricket, and if we had better facilities you'd see more cricket events moved to Canberra.

1 test every few years & a few BBL games each years is all we will continue to get
with Sydney less then 3 hrs away = Manuka maybe with a bit of lipstick in the future , not an extra 250 mill to cover an oval in a brand new venue.

You can say that all you like, but it's not how democracy and free market capitalism works.

And i will keep saying it & so will plenty of others , this twat who purports to be a leader of the ACT said we can't afford a rectangle stadium end of , to then say we should look at a much more expensive multi purpose one , an oval for sports that have a minimalist commitment to Canberra would confirm hes the fool we all think he is.

 

[Vibing]

8 kms to the cbd lmao

yea
about 8 to the western edge of Belconnen

about 15 to the Nth point of Gunners
& 25 to Banks/conder/tharwa the sthn point

pretty central , not completely

Bruce is the 2nd best option without doubt for a new venue because its where Raiders fans have been going for 33 years without too much complaint.

 

[Vibing]

Participation numbers for one, the fact that they draw similar sized crowds to the Raiders average without a local team should be a big warning sign as well. There're others stats as well, google search data and social media statistics and the such.

I was born and raised here, and have lived here for decades, since before the Raiders entered the NSWRL. In all that time each fanbase would swear that their sport was way bigger than the other, but aside from a small period in the 90s the truth has always lay in the middle.

Because of the unique cultural and historical circumstances of Canberra neither sport has dominated the other in the post war era, in fact both are so close in popularity that it's basically impossible to say which is bigger than the other at any one time. The difference in popularity between the two would be so negligible that it's meaningless anyway. There's also way more overlap between the fanbases of both sports in Canberra than you see in the other parts of the country.

The only reason that the Aussie Rules fanbase in Canberra isn't as visible as RL's is because it doesn't have a single entity to get behind like the Raiders. If you gave them a local AFL team it would be as big as, if not slightly bigger than, the Raiders from day one, and anybody claiming otherwise is either astonishingly ignorant or monumentally full of shit.

Participation numbers mean shit , soccer is the proof of that , its an easy sport for skinny little unco white boys to play & thats about it
Midgets crowds are padded by freebies in general & all kids under 14 in for free & they aint that flash anyway

TV ratings are proof of the true popularity of the sports ,
in Canberra when the ratings are published , the NRL GF & the 3 origins are always in the top 10 & often the top 5

Ive never seen an aflol GF in the top 10 ever...or any aflol game

Id guess there are 5 Raiders fans to every 1 midgets
& the same can be said for every other NRL V derps & misses club here too

 

[Vibing]

This is a beauty, plans for Boca s new 112k stadium! Imagine them replacing Accor with this.
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utter snot
you'd need binoculars to see the players if you were sitting at the top

 

[Canard]

I'd be very surprised if the AFL didn't go for North QLD for the 20th team. Based in Cairns.

I think it's odds on.

This is trolling

 

[Canard]

AFL doesn’t mind wasting money, though. I’m with Brutus on this as I think strategically Nth QLD suits their agenda. They can boast they have Australia covered by having teams not only east, middle and west of Australia but now the far north and southern tips. That’ll be very attractive to sponsors and bring more money into their game on top of a better TV deal. Clubs will fall into line when shown the dollar figures.

This is even more trolling

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

This is even more trolling

Why so flippant or are you offended that it’s some kind of slight on Cowboys? GWS and the Suns is proof that the AFL isn’t frightened to take on a hopeless cause. If they ever win a comp it’ll be a bonus but don’t think they actually give a shit. A Nth QLD side gives them coverage of top and bottom as well as both sides of Australia. Something we don’t have and something they’ll be sure to mention at the next TV deal negotiations.

 

[Timbo]

Neither Cazaly's Stadium in Cairns or Riverway Stadium in Townsville are anywhere near close to being acceptable for a full-time AFL team. And unlike Tasmania, the Queensland government is unlikely to get bent over to the tune of $500m for an AFL stadium.

Of the ideas I've ever heard that one is the most far-fetched. It'll be another Perth side or a Canberra side depending on which way they want to go.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Neither Cazaly's Stadium in Cairns or Riverway Stadium in Townsville are anywhere near close to being acceptable for a full-time AFL team. And unlike Tasmania, the Queensland government is unlikely to get bent over to the tune of $500m for an AFL stadium.

Of the ideas I've ever heard that one is the most far-fetched. It'll be another Perth side or a Canberra side depending on which way they want to go.

Had no idea of the stadium quality up there. Cheers.

 

[mongoose]

is there really that many AFL fans in Cairns? at best its equal with RL and the surrounding towns where fans might come from like Innisfail and atherton tablelands would be hard RL.

 

[Pneuma]

is there really that many AFL fans in Cairns? at best its equal with RL and the surrounding towns where fans might come from like Innisfail and atherton tablelands would be hard RL.

The comp is a holiday destination for low level interstate fumblers to play in. Their junior comp is dwarfed by league.

 

[Wb1234]

AFL doesn’t mind wasting money, though. I’m with Brutus on this as I think strategically Nth QLD suits their agenda. They can boast they have Australia covered by having teams not only east, middle and west of Australia but now the far north and southern tips. That’ll be very attractive to sponsors and bring more money into their game on top of a better TV deal. Clubs will fall into line when shown the dollar figures.

Their two Queensland clubs are already basket cases and they are in major population centres

it’s taken 30 years for the cowboys to be strong financially in a rugby league area

it’ll be a basketcase

Canberra or Perth are the best spots or if they had guts Wellington

 

[Pneuma]

The reason a fumbling side is feasible in NQ at least from their executives point of view is that the region is about to have enormous growth in terms of renewable energy projects and infrastructure and other massive projects. The fumblers will argue for a multi purpose stadium as they’ve done in Hobart and will soon in Canberra which will 100% suit cricket and fumbling and be retractable for rectangle sports. That’s their angle and don’t think for one second cricket Australia and the fumblers aren’t thick as thieves.

 

[Canard]

Why so flippant or are you offended that it’s some kind of slight on Cowboys? GWS and the Suns is proof that the AFL isn’t frightened to take on a hopeless cause. If they ever win a comp it’ll be a bonus but don’t think they actually give a shit. A Nth QLD side gives them coverage of top and bottom as well as both sides of Australia. Something we don’t have and something they’ll be sure to mention at the next TV deal negotiations.

Cairns doesn't even have a local TV station anymore (and hasn't for ages). It's TV market is worthless.

The AFL haven't ever expressed any interest in expanding to non-metro areas in non heartland states. They made the govt fork out about 1B just to get a team in Tasmania, that ain't happening in regional QLD.

GWS and the Suns are 10 times the market that Cairns is, and as you said they are still struggling.

There isn't one metric that it makes sense for, not growth, not population, not TV, not corporate support or junior development.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Their two Queensland clubs are already basket cases and they are in major population centres

it’s taken 30 years for the cowboys to be strong financially in a rugby league area

it’ll be a basketcase

Canberra or Perth are the best spots or if they had guts Wellington

Well, Welly would be even more outrageous the N. Qld.

 

[Canard]

is there really that many AFL fans in Cairns? at best its equal with RL and the surrounding towns where fans might come from like Innisfail and atherton tablelands would be hard RL.

It's laughable that Cairns is even mentioned in the discussion. 150k population and a hugely transient population with very little growth in the next decades.

 

[Canard]

The reason a fumbling side is feasible in NQ at least from their executives point of view is that the region is about to have enormous growth in terms of renewable energy projects and infrastructure and other massive projects. The fumblers will argue for a multi purpose stadium as they’ve done in Hobart and will soon in Canberra which will 100% suit cricket and fumbling and be retractable for rectangle sports. That’s their angle and don’t think for one second cricket Australia and the fumblers aren’t thick as thieves.

Your talking growth of about 1% though.

It's nothing.

 

[Vibing]

The comp is a holiday destination for low level interstate fumblers to play in. Their junior comp is dwarfed by league.

but

they'll tell you no word of a lie , that their sport is more popular there then league.

&

they're serious
FMD, what utter clowns

 

[BlueandGold]

This is a beauty, plans for Boca s new 112k stadium! Imagine them replacing Accor with this.
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First rake looks really shallow like Accor and its to large.

Would rather something like the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium in Madrid. 80k venue, world class viewing experience.

Even on top level you feel close to the pitch.

 

[Canard]

but

they'll tell you no word of a lie , that their sport is more popular there then league.

&

they're serious
FMD, what utter clowns

Even if it was (which it isn't), it's such a tiny market, it's not adding to any National comp. That's why PNG NRL is dumb also.