The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Desert Qlder]

West Coast spent 30 years playing at WACA/Subiaco before Optus Stadium opened. WA has a history of waiting for demand rather than building modern infrastructure first.

Then they should cease their self-important claims of defining 'national'.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Reds were introduced when Perth didn't have an adequate rectangular stadium. It hurt their attendances and played a role in their demise. It would be dumb to not give Perth 2.0 a stadium with state of the art corporate facilities.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

West Australians love to claim that you’re only national if you’re in Perth.

That cuts both ways.

They need to act national with their sporting infrastructure and not half arse it.

The rubber is hitting the road now, the NRL has set a vision for expansion and they have the nose in front. Will they crack the whip out and build a long term stadium that can cater for the long term?

Actions not words.

When they're confronted about this they say it's okay because of Brookvale, Endeavour and Dolphin Oval.

 

[jim_57]

Assuming best case scenario of 2027 entry for Perth it doesn’t leave a lot of time but a new Western stand might be doable for a 2027 start.

Phase 1: New Western stand with roof, designed to wrap around.
Phase 2: Roof on Southern stand & corners filled in.
Phase 3: New Northern stand & corners with roof.

Ideally all 3 at once, if not possible prioritise the West stand then do the rest in following off-seasons.

 

[Perth Red]

Assuming best case scenario of 2027 entry for Perth it doesn’t leave a lot of time but a new Western stand might be doable for a 2027 start.

Phase 1: New Western stand with roof, designed to wrap around.
Phase 2: Roof on Southern stand & corners filled in.
Phase 3: New Northern stand & corners with roof.

Ideally all 3 at once, if not possible prioritise the West stand then do the rest in following off-seasons.

I expect a new west stand and that’s probably it until any of the clubs can show they need a bigger stadium. A roof over the south stand would be good though for crappy weather.

 

[jim_57]

I expect a new west stand and that’s probably it until any of the clubs can show they need a bigger stadium. A roof over the south stand would be good though for crappy weather.

The main thing would be that the Western stand is designed and built to match the Eastern and to link up with the Southern stand including corners and a roof eventually. Hopefully the NRL push for the lot though.

 

[Wb1234]

The main thing would be that the Western stand is designed and built to match the Eastern and to link up with the Southern stand including corners and a roof eventually. Hopefully the NRL push for the lot though.

Cook said he would listen to what the Perth bid team want

 

[Wb1234]

Given the force got booted out and the glory almost died off he probably wants to see how the Perth nrl team goes before doing the whole stadium

 

[Bukowski]

Assuming best case scenario of 2027 entry for Perth it doesn’t leave a lot of time but a new Western stand might be doable for a 2027 start.

Phase 1: New Western stand with roof, designed to wrap around.
Phase 2: Roof on Southern stand & corners filled in.
Phase 3: New Northern stand & corners with roof.

Ideally all 3 at once, if not possible prioritise the West stand then do the rest in following off-seasons.

They'll probably just play out of Optus if its major works.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Given the force got booted out and the glory almost died off he probably wants to see how the Perth nrl team goes before doing the whole stadium

The NRL is taking a huge risk with Perth.

 

[Suitman]

The NRL is taking a huge risk with Perth.

No they aren't.
It is the next logical expansion option.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

They'll probably just play out of Optus if its major works.

Imagine if Perth links with the bears and for the first year there was no ground to play on - all games at North Sydney Oval

 

[Bukowski]

Imagine if Perth links with the bears and for the first year there was no ground to play on - all games at North Sydney Oval

You'd never hear from me again.

 

[blue bags]

Imagine if Perth links with the bears and for the first year there was no ground to play on - all games at North Sydney Oval

Yes all games played at Gosford stadium
North Sydney oval
Brookvale oval
And a few at Optus stadium

 

[Kurt Angle]

WRT to Perth rectangular stadium, hopefully the heritage status of the western stand will be waived.

It can only exist due to WAFL heritage, and they make look to have heritage status maintained to obstruct RL, ala AFL with Stadium Australia..

But if they're serious about a rectangular stadium, it can't stay.

I suspect any new (western) stadium will be stand-alone with the possibility to curve into the south stand at a later date. The corner into the north stand cant fit and will likely remain a gap for the big screen.

They will likely cannibalize the western car park too.

I also suspect it will likely be design like the western stand at Parramatta, i.e. wall-to-wall corporate facilities

 

[Perth Red]

WRT to Perth rectangular stadium, hopefully the heritage status of the western stand will be waived.

It can only exist due to WAFL heritage, and they make look to have heritage status maintained to obstruct RL, ala AFL with Stadium Australia..

But if they're serious about a rectangular stadium, it can't stay.

I suspect any new (western) stadium will be stand-alone with the possibility to curve into the south stand at a later date. The corner into the north stand cant fit and will likely remain a gap for the big screen.

They will likely cannibalize the western car park too.

I also suspect it will likely be design like the western stand at Parramatta, i.e. wall-to-wall corporate facilities

Once again the stand doesnt have heritage status in its own right, the site does. It has nothing to do with AFL. They have already talked about replacing it once back in 2011 when the clubs wanted a corporate stand and the govt wanted a stand for the fans. It won’t be an issue.

the stand at parra would be perfect. Premium Members seats and concourse at lower tier and boxes, media, coaches etc above. Same as the plans for penrith.

 

[Kurt Angle]

Well we could take your view, but I think many of us have concluded you wake up each morning and say to yourself "how am I going to be wrong today?"

Yes, it's Loton Park which is listed as a whole. It is deemed what elements are "significant". The gates are deemed as significant as the stand.

From the actual state register:

https://inherit.dplh.wa.gov.au/Admin/api/file/b79ca873-9240-b9b4-5bae-7caf14ca991d

 

[Wb1234]

Well we could take your view, but I think many of us have concluded you wake up each morning and say to yourself "how am I going to be wrong today?"

Yes, it's Loton Park which is listed as a whole. It is deemed what elements are "significant". The gates are deemed as significant as the stand.

From the actual state register:

https://inherit.dplh.wa.gov.au/Admin/api/file/b79ca873-9240-b9b4-5bae-7caf14ca991d

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Yep the article quoted above literally states the stand itself is heritage listed

 

[Bukowski]

The could have 2 levels of corporate boxes in front of the stand and raked seating above. Basically building in front and above the existing stand.

 

[Perth Red]

Well we could take your view, but I think many of us have concluded you wake up each morning and say to yourself "how am I going to be wrong today?"

Yes, it's Loton Park which is listed as a whole. It is deemed what elements are "significant". The gates are deemed as significant as the stand.

From the actual state register:

https://inherit.dplh.wa.gov.au/Admin/api/file/b79ca873-9240-b9b4-5bae-7caf14ca991d

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Thanks for confirming my point! It’s in an overall listing as having significance. no problem pulling it down, it won’t get any opposition and will get lots of support.