Future NRL Stadiums

[Perth Red]

the six lanes of road might be expensive to move. but that's just my theory.

yeh wouldn;t be easy to do, either the road would need to go under the stand or land reclaimed and the road moved over. Either would be very expensive options. Look slike th etrain line migh prevent the other end stand being developed further as well.

 

[aarondoyle]

If they raised the roof a touch, and filled in the corners you could get Suncorp up to 60k. Why this isn't being discussed for another potential Soccer World Cup bid.

 

[CC_Roosters]

Is that confirmed for the cowboys goddo or still on the rumour mill?

 

[Teddyboy]

Just going over where we are at, the state of the NRL stadiums is:

* ANZ Stadium - 83,500
* Suncorp Stadium - 52,500
* SFS - 45,500
* Ausgrid Stadium - 33,000
* AAMI Park - 30,050
* Skilled Park - 27,400
* Canberra Stadium - 26,000 - likely to be refurbished or a rebuild, but ACT Gov haven't determined what they will do. 27-30k?
* Dairy Farmers - 25,000 - likely to be replaced by new aprox. 27,000 stadium just to the south of the mall
* WIN Stadium - 23,150
* Centrebet Stadium - 22,000
* WIN Jubilee Oval - 22,000
* Brookvale Oval - suposedly 22,000 - absolute mess with council wanting an even smaller ground
* Toyota Stadium - 22,000 - major retail/residential development, possibly a refurbishment of the stadium?
*Parramatta Stadium - 21,475 - club wants to redevelop one end of the ground taking capacity to around 25,000. Funding/aproval not secured
*Leichhardt Oval - 21,000
*Campbelltown Stadium - 21,000


To stadiums that might also be used with expansion:


*New Springfield Stadium - 27,000 (aprox) proposed ground with Qld Gov funding aproval. To be finished around 2018, conditional on Western Corridor Bid.

*New Rockhampton Stadium - 27,000 (aprox) proposed ground with Qld Gov funding aproval. Not sure when it will be finished, conditional on Central Queensland bid.

*ME Stadium - 20,500 - to be redeveloped to 25,000 by 2013/14, possibly as much as 27,000 regardless of Perth NRL bid

*Bluetongue Stadium - 20,059 - possible redevelopment of Northern end if Bears admitted, somewhere around 22,000-23,000

*North Sydney Oval - 20,000

Sorry about me playing the same record but too many grounds for the NRL in Sydney for too many teams in Sydney and most NRL stadiums are over generous in capacity.
And the same goes for the Rugby/Soccer stadiums in South Africa as well as the New Zealand stadiums for the RWC.

 

[smithie]

Is that confirmed for the cowboys goddo or still on the rumour mill?

The plans are very really. I think it all depends on the state government. We will have a state election about March next year, so I'm sure the topic will come up by then. The stadium will basically be a Skilled Park clone from what I've heard.

 

[azza29]

Sorry about me playing the same record but too many grounds for the NRL in Sydney for too many teams in Sydney and most NRL stadiums are over generous in capacity.

I'd have to agree with this. Sydney has far too many small to mid-sized stadiums to ensure quality across the whole lot.

Melbourne has only three stadiums which are used for all AFL, soccer, league, union and cricket matches. Lots of events at a small number of venues ensures investment is targeted and worthwhile.

It's difficult to justify government funding for an upgrade to, say, Shark Park when it's only likely to host 11 games a year.

 

[aarondoyle]

The stadium will basically be a Skilled Park clone from what I've heard.

Hopefully they allow room to expand.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I'd have to agree with this. Sydney has far too many small to mid-sized stadiums to ensure quality across the whole lot.

Melbourne has only three stadiums which are used for all AFL, soccer, league, union and cricket matches. Lots of events at a small number of venues ensures investment is targeted and worthwhile.

It's difficult to justify government funding for an upgrade to, say, Shark Park when it's only likely to host 11 games a year.

The geography of sydney and melbourne is totally different.

Have a look at the map for where the AFL teams are located , most are within a stones throw of each other.

On the other hand sydneys rugby league teams are much more spread out , in a city with a much more difficult geography for roads and rail.

 

[azza29]

The geography of sydney and melbourne is totally different.

Have a look at the map for where the AFL teams are located , most are within a stones throw of each other.

On the other hand sydneys rugby league teams are much more spread out , in a city with a much more difficult geography for roads and rail.

The physical locations of Melbourne's teams haven't mattered for years, St Kilda is based in Moorabbin, Essendon is moving to Tullamarine, Collingwood has set up shop in Richmond. Most teams represent their suburb in name only, and everyone plays at the MCG or Docklands. Even Geelong play home games at Docklands when it suits their purpose.

Sydney's geography means it would probably benefit from having a smaller number of central stadiums. There are no incentives to provide good transport links to grounds used 11 days of the year, but if a stadium is hosting multiple games each weekend then it's reasonable for governments to invest in improving transport links.

 

[Goddo]

Hopefully they allow room to expand.

Yeah, I'd like to see an Ausgrid style development plan for a stadium or two in queensland rather than a Gold Coast flat pack ground.

If the budget is limited, build one big state of the art Western Grandstand, and leave the other three sides as hills to be developed in future. That would give a ground a 20-25k capacity, but provide plenty of room to go as high as 45k in the future.

I think this would be particularily important for a new Sunshine Coast or Springfield stadium.

 

[applesauce]

If they raised the roof a touch, and filled in the corners you could get Suncorp up to 60k. Why this isn't being discussed for another potential Soccer World Cup bid.

The plan was to take it to 75k on the back of the WC bid before it fell over.:x

 

[counterpuncher]

I'd have to agree with this. Sydney has far too many small to mid-sized stadiums to ensure quality across the whole lot.

Melbourne has only three stadiums which are used for all AFL, soccer, league, union and cricket matches. Lots of events at a small number of venues ensures investment is targeted and worthwhile.

It's difficult to justify government funding for an upgrade to, say, Shark Park when it's only likely to host 11 games a year.

On the upside though, it ensures that the playing surfaces on these smaller grounds are usually in pristine condition. Better for the players, looks much better on TV.

You only have to look at the overuse of ANZ Stadium which looks like an uneven cow paddock most of the time. Took my kid to a footy clinic there and was quite surprised at how poor condition it was in some areas especially around halfway. The Swans have certainly made it very clear how much they enjoy playing there!

 

[Billythekid]

On the upside though, it ensures that the playing surfaces on these smaller grounds are usually in pristine condition. Better for the players, looks much better on TV.

You only have to look at the overuse of ANZ Stadium which looks like an uneven cow paddock most of the time. Took my kid to a footy clinic there and was quite surprised at how poor condition it was in some areas especially around halfway. The Swans have certainly made it very clear how much they enjoy playing there!

It also makes the stadiums feel like home grounds. There is something special about watching your team at it's own ground.

 

[Smiley]

The plan was to take it to 75k on the back of the WC bid before it fell over.:x

In the world cup bid book it had Suncorp staying at 50,000. I had heard pre-floods the QLD government had plans to build an etihad stadium type roof at Suncorp which would allow the top tier to be filled in on all sides and raise the cap to around 60,000.

 

[Goddo]

Smiley is right - for the World Cup bid they weren't going to do anything to Suncorp.

60,000 is as big as you can make Suncorp. Fill in the corners and take all stands to same height, and add a new roof.

It would be very expensive to do, and the cost doesn't justify it. If it were to be rebuilt, the footprint of land isn't big enough to build anything bigger than 60k.

It will be interesting to see what the Qld Gov do when Suncorp gets towards the end of its life - maybe a new 70-80k Stadium on the QE II site, with Suncorp around 40-50k?

 

[smithie]

Smiley is right - for the World Cup bid they weren't going to do anything to Suncorp.

60,000 is as big as you can make Suncorp. Fill in the corners and take all stands to same height, and add a new roof.

It would be very expensive to do, and the cost doesn't justify it. If it were to be rebuilt, the footprint of land isn't big enough to build anything bigger than 60k.

It will be interesting to see what the Qld Gov do when Suncorp gets towards the end of its life - maybe a new 70-80k Stadium on the QE II site, with Suncorp around 40-50k?

A QEII redevelopment would heavily depend on the Cross River Rail Link which is currently in doubt and under current plans goes nowhere near QEII.

 

[BDGS]

Canterbury set to play first game at Belmore for 13 years as $7m upgrade of ground nears completion




THE Bulldogs are set for a famous return to Belmore with Canterbury to play their first game in 13 years at the spiritual home of the club.
As a $7 million upgrade to Belmore Sports Ground reaches its final stages, the Bulldogs are planning to hold their 2012 trial match against the Roosters at the 91-year-old ground they abandoned in 1998.
In a historic move that every Bulldogs fan has been waiting for, Bulldogs CEO Todd Greenberg said the club would return to the famous ground for trial matches, NSW Cup fixtures and junior representative games from next season.
"We are planing on holding a trial game there next year and certainly play all our other grades there all year," Greenberg said.
The entire club will also relocate to the new-look ground at the end of the year for the pre-season when long overdue upgrades have been finished.

With the renovations set to be complete in five weeks, The Daily Telegraph was given in exclusive tour of the new-look ground yesterday.
Although still very much a construction sight, the skeleton of what will be one of the most impressive training facilities in Sydney was clearly visible.
"It is a state-of-the-art performance facility," Greenberg said. "Something that will rival any other club. This will do wonders for the club both on and off-the-field.
"One of the key parts of this is having our entire club in one place. It is not just about the on-field performance but to make sure the whole organisation jells together."
After walking through a brand new gate - a futuristic structure replacing the old turnstile tin-shed - we are taken into what will be the organisations new heart.
Below the famous grandstand, which has finally had the red Winfield Cup signage removed, 5000 tones of dirt has been removed and been replaced with a state-of-the-art gym, including two giant ice-baths.
Four times bigger than the workout area at Homebush, it will include a 40m running track that begins in the gym and, impressively, ends on the field.
CLICK HERE FOR PICTURES OF THE REDEVELOPED BELMORE
The head coach's office looks over where the players will work out while next door the old dressing rooms have been gutted and replaced.
Upstairs, next to the Steve Mortimer bar, which will be up-dated next month, there is a players' lounge, barbecue area and theatre.
New offices have also been built to accommodate all the Bulldogs' staff.
Outside, every seat in the stand has been replaced and a $1 million practice pitch has been built next to the ground.
"It is a culmination of three years' planning and lobbying," Greenberg said. "It is the Bulldogs returning to their local community. We are returning to our roots and every day we will be living in our local community, which is very important to us."
While an NRL match at Belmore remains a distant possibility with the Bulldogs contracted to play at ANZ Stadium until 2015, Greenberg refused to rule it out. "With additional funding and more attention to the infrastructure of the place, there is no reason why we couldn't," he said.
http://www.heraldsun...o-1226112761214

Fantastic news!

 

[Perth Red]

yep a good compromise. Live and train in your heartland and play your games in a state of the art modern centralised stadium.

 

[BDGS]

yep a good compromise. Live and train in your heartland and play your games in a state of the art modern centralised stadium.

Hopefully we will get some NRL games out there in a few years, good to have the trial back there next year and great to be back training at our home.

 

[Bluebags1908]

Canterbury set to play first game at Belmore for 13 years as $7m upgrade of ground nears completion




THE Bulldogs are set for a famous return to Belmore with Canterbury to play their first game in 13 years at the spiritual home of the club.
As a $7 million upgrade to Belmore Sports Ground reaches its final stages, the Bulldogs are planning to hold their 2012 trial match against the Roosters at the 91-year-old ground they abandoned in 1998.
In a historic move that every Bulldogs fan has been waiting for, Bulldogs CEO Todd Greenberg said the club would return to the famous ground for trial matches, NSW Cup fixtures and junior representative games from next season.
"We are planing on holding a trial game there next year and certainly play all our other grades there all year," Greenberg said.
The entire club will also relocate to the new-look ground at the end of the year for the pre-season when long overdue upgrades have been finished.

With the renovations set to be complete in five weeks, The Daily Telegraph was given in exclusive tour of the new-look ground yesterday.
Although still very much a construction sight, the skeleton of what will be one of the most impressive training facilities in Sydney was clearly visible.
"It is a state-of-the-art performance facility," Greenberg said. "Something that will rival any other club. This will do wonders for the club both on and off-the-field.
"One of the key parts of this is having our entire club in one place. It is not just about the on-field performance but to make sure the whole organisation jells together."
After walking through a brand new gate - a futuristic structure replacing the old turnstile tin-shed - we are taken into what will be the organisations new heart.
Below the famous grandstand, which has finally had the red Winfield Cup signage removed, 5000 tones of dirt has been removed and been replaced with a state-of-the-art gym, including two giant ice-baths.
Four times bigger than the workout area at Homebush, it will include a 40m running track that begins in the gym and, impressively, ends on the field.
CLICK HERE FOR PICTURES OF THE REDEVELOPED BELMORE
The head coach's office looks over where the players will work out while next door the old dressing rooms have been gutted and replaced.
Upstairs, next to the Steve Mortimer bar, which will be up-dated next month, there is a players' lounge, barbecue area and theatre.
New offices have also been built to accommodate all the Bulldogs' staff.
Outside, every seat in the stand has been replaced and a $1 million practice pitch has been built next to the ground.
"It is a culmination of three years' planning and lobbying," Greenberg said. "It is the Bulldogs returning to their local community. We are returning to our roots and every day we will be living in our local community, which is very important to us."
While an NRL match at Belmore remains a distant possibility with the Bulldogs contracted to play at ANZ Stadium until 2015, Greenberg refused to rule it out. "With additional funding and more attention to the infrastructure of the place, there is no reason why we couldn't," he said.
http://www.heraldsun...o-1226112761214

Fantastic news!

yep a good compromise. Live and train in your heartland and play your games in a state of the art modern centralised stadium.

Hopefully we will get some NRL games out there in a few years, good to have the trial back there next year and great to be back training at our home.

Having the Bulldogs play 1 or 2 "non-appealing" games at Belmore each year might even boost their crowd averages. Take this year for example - they average 20,000+ at ANZ, but after some poor form and playing a team in North Queensland that are rarely a big draw in Sydney they only got 8,000 or so for that game. This game would have been perfect for Belmore - apart from getting an awesome home ground advantage, instead of getting 8,000 at ANZ they would have got more than double that at Belmore simply because of the 'novelty' factor.

So long as it's only 1 or 2 games a year where they traditionally draw a poor crowd for. Blockbuster games vs Parramatta, Broncos, Dragons, Tigers, Warriors, Souths, and basically any Sydney team except Cronulla should always be at ANZ.