Future NRL Stadiums

[BunniesMan]

FFS some people are deluded. There won't be a new major stadium in Sydney within the next 25 years. Has anyone listened to Annesley and co. The people whose opinions matter have been urging stadium rationalisation. But at any suggestion of that everybody reacts by showing their erection for suburban rustbuckets.

For the government to build a new stadium it would require ANZ not losing any business and different teams such as Parramatta, Wests and St George abandoning their suburban grounds and signing a long term contract to play at this new stadium.

None of that will happen any time soon. You're seeing governments move towards less government spending on luxuries. Luxuries include a brand new 40k stadium when you have 10 stadiums in Sydney being used by league including 2 with over 40k capacity.

Face reality, it won't happen this generation people.

Either commit every team in Sydney to using 3 stadiums and you might get it to happen or continue to use the tiny rustbuckets and forget about this dream western SFS.

 

[Suitman]

FFS some people are deluded. There won't be a new major stadium in Sydney within the next 25 years.

Maybe not. But if rationalisation is to happen, there may be some major upgrades.
Parramatta Stadium, despite its close proximity to Homebush, is the prime candidate.
The West could do with a 30-35000 seater. It makes most sense that Parramatta is the one. Mostly built already, it wouldn't take hundreds of millions to get it there.
It makes sense to give the west it's medium capacity modern stadium at minimal cost to rival the SFS.
Any blockbusters could always be moved to Homebush if required.

Rationalisation (if it were to happen) = SFS, Homebush and Parra.

Problem solved.
Obviously, smaller games get transferred back to local grounds - ie. Tigers vs Cowboys (Leichhardt) or Panthers vs Warriors (Penrith).

Suity

 

[BunniesMan]

Suitman that sounds logical. But using logic has been the problem. Annesley has talked about not making funding decisions based on emotion and making the correct decisions using logic.

Turning Parra stadium into that 3rd stadium and having every Sydney rivalry game played in one of SFS/ANZ/Parra is the smart move.

But Wests and Penrith will never want to play in Parra's home ground.

 

[Suitman]

Suitman that sounds logical. But using logic has been the problem. Annesley has talked about not making funding decisions based on emotion and making the correct decisions using logic.

Turning Parra stadium into that 3rd stadium and having every Sydney rivalry game played in one of SFS/ANZ/Parra is the smart move.

But Wests and Penrith will never want to play in Parra's home ground.

Why not?
Your lot play at Canterbury's?

Suity

 

[Tony Bongo]

Suitman that sounds logical. But using logic has been the problem. Annesley has talked about not making funding decisions based on emotion and making the correct decisions using logic.

Turning Parra stadium into that 3rd stadium and having every Sydney rivalry game played in one of SFS/ANZ/Parra is the smart move.

But Wests and Penrith will never want to play in Parra's home ground.

The A league has made this interesting by going ahead with it's Western Sydney expansion. Parra Stadium is a prime candidate for an upgrade if it can be used almost every week by an A league team at home one week and Parra at home the next. It makes a lot of sense and would keep a lot of voters happy by covering two codes with one stone.

 

[BunniesMan]

Why not?
Your lot play at Canterbury's?

Suity

ffs, trying to have a serious conversation. I even agree with you and you reply like a dickhead.

We don't play "at Canterbury's" and that sort of attitude is standing in the way of logical stadium rationalisation.

The A league has made this interesting by going ahead with it's Western Sydney expansion. Parra Stadium is a prime candidate for an upgrade if it can be used almost every week by an A league team at home one week and Parra at home the next. It makes a lot of sense and would keep a lot of voters happy by covering two codes with one stone.

21k capacity is more than enough for an A-league team. Crowds of beyond 20k are almost non existant in that code. Using them as an excuse to expand a stadium won't work.

It would need Penrith and Wests getting their arses into gear and agreeing to play at Parra in the event of it turning into a 35k stadium.

 

[Tony Bongo]

ffs, trying to have a serious conversation. I even agree with you and you reply like a dickhead.

We don't play "at Canterbury's" and that sort of attitude is standing in the way of logical stadium rationalisation.

21k capacity is more than enough for an A-league team. Crowds of beyond 20k are almost non existant in that code. Using them as an excuse to expand a stadium won't work.

It would need Penrith and Wests getting their arses into gear and agreeing to play at Parra in the event of it turning into a 35k stadium.

I'm pretty confident it won't need Wests and Penrith for Parra Stadium to get an ugrade. I don't think they are looking at a great increase in capacity but rather a host of improvements to simply bring the Stadium out of the 80's and up to present day standards.

 

[BDR]

Added the same thing to Suncorp a few weeks back.

It is a promotional tool used by NOVA here, not sure who will give it away up north though.

They're referring to it as the XXXX Queenslander

 

[Red Bear]

They're referring to it as the XXXX Queenslander

Their chromosome structure I guess

 

[clarency]

:lol:

Unless UoC is poorly designed?

 

[Goddo]

Another very poorly written Telegraph article (SFS is 45k not 30 you idiot Ritchie)

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...adiums-stalemate/story-e6frexnr-1226345223068

A STATE government report is expected to spell the end of financial upgrades to Sydney's battling suburban grounds and bring the NRL a step closer to the AFL's controversial two-stadium format.

NSW Sports Minister Graham Annesley said the state government could not force clubs to shift from their traditional home games. But he stressed that in the current economic climate clubs may not be assured of multi-million dollar grants for stadium upgrades.

The Daily Telegraph understands the report will recommend the government focus on three or four Sydney stadiums in strategic metropolitan and regional locations.

A source claims the strategy would lead to calls for Sydney clubs to shift up to four of their biggest games each season to Moore Park or Homebush.

St George Illawarra and Manly will be pressured to take their premier matches away from Kogarah and Brookvale. Shifting matches to the 30,000-seat Allianz Stadium could reap clubs between $400,000 and $500,000 a game.


State government sources claim there isn't enough money to build and maintain a string of 20,000- to 30,000-seat stadiums throughout Sydney. The state government will next month receive a KPMG Stadia Strategy document that will reveal the priorities for future investment.

"The purpose of the report is to provide government with a road map to guide future government investment, as and when it becomes available," Annesley said.

WIN Kogarah, Centrebet Stadium and Toyota Stadium have received government funding in recent years. Suburban grounds may still receive small grants to upgrade facilities.

But the government does not believe it can justify up to six or seven multi-million dollar stadiums around Sydney, especially when they are only used up to 12 times a year and require weekly up-keep. The AFL plays most of its games out of the MCG or Etihad Stadium. But Sydney fans want sides to keep playing at suburban grounds.

He singles out St George and Manly, but St George has had about $20M in refurbishment at Kogarah over the last 10 years. You would think that with the best suburban ground now they'd be the last to move.

Only interesting thing Ritchie says is the State Gov will focus on 3-4 stadiums in Sydney. SFS, Parramatta, North and South? Would make the most sense. All +30k modern facilities.

 

[CC_Roosters]

I have a problem with this report saying there isn't enough money to continue with suburban grounds etc..... There are 2 afl sides in the metro area and before the giants there were 2 existing sutiable oval stadiums for australian rules, yet there is apparently enough money to give them a 3rd (at blacktown) and 4th at the Showgrounds. Is this just because the afl tipped in some money to it? It is after all still mostly tax payers money and most of those in NSW do not care for that code

 

[Lockyer4President!]

I have a problem with this report saying there isn't enough money to continue with suburban grounds etc..... There are 2 afl sides in the metro area and before the giants there were 2 existing sutiable oval stadiums for australian rules, yet there is apparently enough money to give them a 3rd (at blacktown) and 4th at the Showgrounds. Is this just because the afl tipped in some money to it? It is after all still mostly tax payers money and most of those in NSW do not care for that code

One of the greatest rorts in Australian sport. Embarrassing how the NSW government bent over backwards for a foreign code which is diminishing in popularity every year…

Just look at Melbourne, it took over a century just to get just one decent 30K football stadium. It boggles the mind.

 

[docbrown]

One of the greatest rorts in Australian sport. Embarrassing how the NSW government bent over backwards for a foreign code which is diminishing in popularity every year…

Just look at Melbourne, it took over a century just to get just one decent 30K football stadium. It boggles the mind.

And then Kenneally - now as head of the NBL - has a whinge about a Western Sydney A-League club receiving $8 million worth of government support.

She was the one who approved those two AFL led wastes of tax payer's money.

 

[El Diablo]

And then Kenneally - now as head of the NBL - has a whinge about a Western Sydney A-League club receiving $8 million worth of government support.

She was the one who approved those two AFL led wastes of tax payer's money.

that was after Rees said no too http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/the-deal-is-off/story-e6frexx0-1225803466695

but then the AFL had words with the poli who had to go before the ICAC

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...government-favours-for-afl-20100523-w40j.html

 

[Perth Red]

ANZ is a blight on the game and the ARLC should ban clubs from using it!

The game needs a modern 40k stadium in the cities West full stop. if the NSW Govt won't build it then the ARLC should find some private backers to partner with them to do so.

You could have 4 to 5 tennant clubs using it which would pay for the returns on investment.

Soccer
Warratahs
Wests
Bulldogs
Eels
Panthers

all potential tennants

 

[BunniesMan]

Waratahs have a 40k stadium much closer to where most union fans are.

The Dogs, like us, are in a long term contract.

 

[Valheru]

ANZ is a blight on the game and the ARLC should ban clubs from using it!

I don’t like ANZ stadium for regular season games either but please... you can’t stop any club form using any ground as long as it is up to standard.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

Replace the SFS with Allianz Arena and replace Stadium Australia with Millennium Stadium.

Get WA’s government to pay for it.

Problem solvered.

 

[Usain Bolt]

Get rid of suburban grounds

seriously what decade are some of you fans living in? Embankments and Hills went out in the 80s. Every other sport around the world has all seater stadiums. NRL needs to move with the times