Future NRL Stadiums

[Suitman]

Cheers Dave.

Suity

 

[Teddyboy]

This thread should be about the reductions of NRL stadiums in Sydney.

 

[azza29]

Apparently the IC are cooking up plans to convert the MCG into a rectangular stadium, in case the whole AFL thing doesn't work out here...

 

[Perth Red]

In January nib stadium redevelopment passed planning approval. Just a few weeks now till Stage1 redevelopment commences. Due for completion in March 2013 it will see the temporary East and Sth stand removed and replaced with permenant seating structures. East stand will be roofed and Sth stand will have infrastructure for a roof at a later date. Also replacement of standing at the bottom of the North stand with seats. East stand will have a range of new corporate boxes and function rooms as well. 3 home dressing rooms will be in the West stand in anticipation for 3 tennants (S15,Aleague&NRL) Capacity will be slightly reduced due to the change in standing to seating but eventual plan is for Stage 2 to take it up to 25,000.

Current East stand

Redeveloped

Current aerial

Stage 1 redevelopment plans

http://www.oneperth.com.au/2011/12/02/behold-the-new-perth-oval/


Stage2 involves new West and North stands plus roof over Sth stand and major public transport bus terminal development. No news on when that might happen.

 

[The AXXXMAN]

WIN Stadium roof - take 2....
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/...ern-grandstand-takes-shape-again/2491947.aspx

waste of money. no need for a roof on stadium grandstands, unless the entire arena (including playing field) is going to be roofed.

 

[PaulyTom]

Pity the Stadium in Perth could not be a completely new stadium.

The people of Perth deserve a brand new stadium, world class and one that rivals stadiums in Europe.

 

[dangerousdave]

waste of money. no need for a roof on stadium grandstands, unless the entire arena (including playing field) is going to be roofed.

:roll:

Clown

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...em-and-the-fans-will-come-20120324-1vr3o.html

The NRL needs new stadiums – build them and the fans will come
Richard Hinds
March 25, 2012

Spot the misconception: a) Snow skiing is a sport; b) The internet was invented by Sir Clyde Internet; c) Rugby league is better on the tele.

You can make up your own mind about the first two. However, that final patently false assertion has become a debilitating self-fulfilling prophecy for a game that, in a golden era, deserves far better live audiences and facilities than it currently endures. But, before examining the consequences of the "it's better on the tele" mantra, let's first consider why this misconception has become sporting lore. Why people sitting back in their recliner on a Sunday afternoon, stubby in hand, consider themselves more privileged than those who have coughed up for a ticket or a club membership and are perched in the grandstand.

"You can see it better on the tele," they will tell you. And there is some truth to that. Outside American football, there are few sports where the cameras encapsulate the on-the-ball action better than rugby league. A slight knock-on or a line-ball try is almost always easier to detect on the screen than with the naked eye.

Especially when, on the terrace at some dated suburban burrow – or remote ANZ Stadium – your view is obscured by bobbing heads or blurred by distance. A problem exacerbated at Leichhardt three weeks ago when the sun shone so brightly on the big screen you could not even see the replays.

"It is more comfortable at home," they will go on. And, standing on a sodden piece of turf while some nut job waves a flag in your face, sitting on numb butt cheeks in a dilapidated windblown wooden grandstand or buckled into your plastic seat within the fading confines of the now badly outdated Sydney Football Stadium, a nice cuppa on the couch in front of the game seems an attractive alternative.

You don't have to travel to the new Yankee Stadium or Old Trafford to understand how badly outdated some of the NRL's facilities have become. Just watch State of Origin I beneath the roof at Melbourne's Etihad Stadium, or enjoy the comfort and perfect sight lines of a Storm game at AAMI Park and you get the idea. Add the customary complaints used by NRL supporters to excuse themselves from attendance – the parking/public transport is terrible, it's too hard to cross the city, a pie and chips costs too much – and you can understand why a myth has become a mantra: "Rugby league is better on the tele!"

It is not a misconception the ARL Commission would be particularly eager to disprove right now. Why argue rugby league is better at the ground while trying to extract $1 billion from the TV rights? Instead, convince television executives that every empty seat at the stadium is another set of eyeballs glued to their channel. Ker-ching!

Yet, for those of us now thrilling to the game's athletic renaissance, but too often deflated by the poor crowds at the ground, the "it's better on tele" alibi seems patently self-defeating. Not to mention just plain wrong.

You might see some crucial parts of an NRL game better on the tele. But you can't feel it. Not in the way you feel the impact of a big hit in the flesh. In the way you can see the movements in the back-field, or detect the signs of fatigue and disarray. In the way you can see what is going to happen – not merely what is happening. You can't absorb and even create the atmosphere in your lounge room like you can at the ground. It is the difference between watching Fred Astaire and dancing yourself.

Pertinently, other major sports have found big live crowds inspire bigger television audiences. I suspect even more people watch the annual Collingwood-Essendon Anzac Day match at the MCG because they know it is sold out. The sense of occasion and the buzz from the crowd attracts even the non-partisan viewer.

State of Origin is, patently, a more elite competition than the standard NRL game. But the obvious energy in the stadium makes it even more compelling television than a brilliant club match, where every high ball can reveal row-upon-row of empty seats.

To their credit, NRL clubs are working to increase memberships and fill grounds. However, the only long-term solution is building/renovating better stadiums so going to game can no longer be considered an uncomfortable inconvenience. The improved atmosphere becomes an attraction in itself. Admittedly, an enormous challenge in a city with far-flung teams and problematical transport systems. But it would be worth the effort. No matter how big your screen or how comfy your couch, rugby league – like most sport – is better in the flesh.

 

[hellteam]

35,000 seat stadium needed in Sydney, with a roof.

 

[PaddyBoy]

They should build one in Granville if they do, most train lines go past there.

 

[smithie]

City promised new stadium with roof by 2020

Canberra will have a new rectangular stadium with a clear, polymer roof by the end of the decade.

The Canberra Times can reveal the ACT government has started working with architects on designing a replacement for Canberra Stadium, with the University of Canberra emerging as a surprise potential location.

Sport Minister Andrew Barr was in New Zealand with Territory Venues general manager Neale Guthrie this week on a fact-finding mission at Forsyth Barr Stadium in Dunedin.

He said the capital could benefit from copying the design for a multi-sport and multi-purpose venue, adding a roof was essential for the new venue.

The $A150 million Forsyth Barr Stadium has a permanent capacity of 20,000 with the ability to increase to 30,500 seats with a 37-metre high roof made of a strong fluorine-based plastic. It can host rugby union, rugby league and soccer matches as well as concerts and conventions.

Mr Barr is keen to start a ''stadium fund'' for the planning and building process which is expected to be complete in 2018 or 2019.

The first priority is settling on a location and the Government has five options:
■ Build on the current Canberra Stadium site;
■ Build adjacent to Canberra Stadium;
■ Create a new precinct at West Basin with a potential convention complex and the proposed Australia Forum;
■ Build a stadium on the site of the Civic Pool adjacent to the convention centre, or;
■ Create a sporting precinct at UC.

Mr Barr was impressed by Forsyth Barr Stadium and its close relationship with the University of Otago. UC has expressed its desire to become the sporting hub of Canberra and the ACT Brumbies could move their base to the campus in the coming years.

He will meet new federal sports minister Kate Lundy in the coming weeks about proposed upgrades at Manuka Oval and the new rectangular venue.

''It's an absolute no brainer of getting a facility that provides that level of spectator comfort,'' Mr Barr said.
''When you're indoors, it opens up facility use for different purposes.''

The stadium would need to be able to create revenue with a hotel on site as well as becoming a possible transport hub.

The stadium would also sell corporate suites in advance to guarantee revenue and Mr Barr wants private sector support to boost public funding.

''You would have the co-location of a hotel on site so there's capacity for revenue coming in 365 days, not just game day,'' Mr Barr said.

''We're using the same architects as Dunedin and we'll learn from their experiences.''

The government will continue minor upgrades to Canberra Stadium and Manuka Oval will also get a significant revamp. The first priority is to get lights at Manuka Oval as part of a $30-40 million upgrade over four years including new stands and covered seating.

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act...oof-by-2020-20120302-1u8si.html#ixzz1rQPBE7VN

 

[Lockyer4President!]

Manuka Oval as part of a $30-40 million

Why? Is this for the Western Sydney AFL team?

Why aren't the ARL & ARU working together to stop this from happening? That money should be spent on Canberra Stadium for Canberra's teams, not this AFL joke.

 

[Perth Red]

Pity the Stadium in Perth could not be a completely new stadium.

The people of Perth deserve a brand new stadium, world class and one that rivals stadiums in Europe.

Agreed, typical short sighted Govt. They have so far paid $20mill for the lease to the ground, $95 mill for this stage one development and need to spend anouther $150-200mill to finish it. Why they didn;t just build another stadium next to the AFL one and better utilise the $300mill transport infrastructure they are putting to that stadium is beyond me!

This was muted at one stage but they decided to redevelop nib despite the lack of public transport, parking amenities around the ground and long term higher cost. go figure!

This is what it could have looked like at Burswood.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Why? Is this for the Western Sydney AFL team?

Why aren't the ARL & ARU working together to stop this from happening? That money should be spent on Canberra Stadium for Canberra's teams, not this AFL joke.

If it means the new indoor stadium is only rectangular I'm all for it.

The worst thing that could happen is for them to fold all the funding into one stadium for all sports.

 

[beave]

A little addition to DFS over the last fea weeks.

Not sure how you obtain the seats in there.

 

[BDR]

I think you win them - like the Harvey Norman couch thing they've done in the past.

The club says that the seats directly behind will be sold at a discount because of slight obstruction :roll: geniuses our club

 

[beave]

Those seats behind it probably aren't as obstructed as you would think, that bay is on the dead ball line so 99% of the game they will be looking to their right (screen left). Plus the angle of the photo probably makes it look a lot worse. I think its a great idea tbh.

 

[clarency]

Stadium on University of Canberra is actually a good idea. Universities are stacked with parking, and are typically easy to get to. Not to mention the promotional potential for new fans as they will receive a new crop of students each year.

 

[Red Bear]

Stadium on University of Canberra is actually a good idea. Universities are stacked with parking, and are typically easy to get to. Not to mention the promotional potential for new fans as they will receive a new crop of students each year.

:lol:

 

[applesauce]

A little addition to DFS over the last fea weeks.

Not sure how you obtain the seats in there.

Added the same thing to Suncorp a few weeks back.

It is a promotional tool used by NOVA here, not sure who will give it away up north though.