Future NRL Stadiums

[Desert Qlder]

The argument that Olympic Stadium only gets big crowds for GF and Origin is no longer valid.

Preliminary finals between big Sydney clubs are now surpassing the 70000 barrier and their have been instances when even other Semis can easily get over 50000. Regular season games involving clubs like Canterbury, Parramatta, St. George-Illawarra, Souths and Wests are at times nudging and passing 40000.

The prospect of an upgrade to Homebush is an exciting one. Bringing the ends in will most certainly lift the atmosphere of the venue and heighten the viewing pleasure of those sitting there. A reported drop of 5000 in capacity is a small price to pay for what would be a far better venue for our big games. We as Rugby League supporters should certainly be encouraging any prospect of it being developed.

It is after all where our biggest games will be played.

 

[flippikat]

Seats are going in at nib

Did they have a surplus of those colours when they built Melbourne's AAMI Park?

 

[Diesel]

Where's the BBQ deck supposed to be?

 

[Perth Red]

It's in that main stand but can't see it from that pic. Not sure where it is but to fit 350 people must be a decent size. May e it is going to be on the end section somewhere?

 

[Brutus]

This proposed new Western Sydney venue better be f**king rectangular.

 

[Perth Red]

nib Stadium update: Seats are nearly installed in main stand and roofing is now going on.

 

[Big Sam]

Are they going to do the other 2 sides?

 

[Perth Red]

Maybe, they have called this stage one. Stage two is supposed to replace the shed end with a new all seater stand and put a roof over the new Sth stand end, filling in the corners at that end. That will take capacity up to 25,500. Stage 3, if it ever happened would see the final stand (west) replaced.

Stage 1 cost $95.1mill (+$25mill to buy the lease from the council)
Stage 2 expected to cost $75mill
Stage 3 uncosted and no plans on what size that final stadium might be.

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vincent.wa.gov.au%2Ffiles%2F18ecd9ae-4b50-4242-8e95-9fab010b7914%2FPier_S_310_02_P3.pdf&ei=4fQxUYb4CMmgmQWsmoC4BQ&usg=AFQjCNFjhn-Jg9tHXy7gITlN9rBODxSrhA&sig2=9M2-nsGn8dmSuTI2Zw6WoQ

 

[TheRam]

Abbott promises Brookie a lifeline

Tony Abbott has given the strongest indication yet that Brookvale Oval won't die if he is elected as prime minister. The leader of the federal opposition was a special guest at Manly's season launch at Brookvale Oval on Friday night.
Other political heavyweights in attendance included the NSW Treasurer, Mike Baird, the state Minister for Planning, Brad Hazzard, and Liberal MP Bronwyn Bishop. The NSW government's stadiums strategy has outlined plans to shift funding away from suburban grounds and towards major venues such as ANZ Stadium and Allianz Stadium. However Abbott raised hopes that one of the NRL's most dilapidated grounds, Brookvale Oval, could finally get the money required to bring it up to standard.
''I am confident that [Manly] will be doing well come September and I hope you aren't the only ones in this room doing well come September,'' Abbott told guests in the Chairman's Lounge, in reference to the coming federal election. ''Opposition is OK but government is better. Opposition is about promising, government is about delivering. I hope I will be in a position to deliver to this club, to this code and to this stadium come September. I look forward to working with my friends and colleagues, the state Treasurer Mike Baird and the state Minister for Planning, Brad Hazzard.
If we've got the planning right, if we've got the finances right then we can deliver. And I've got my coach Bronwyn Bishop to make sure I perform on and off the field.'' Former Senate president Kerry Sibraa is heading a Brookvale Oval Committee tasked with finding ways to salvage the historic ground. ''It was great to see Tony there and other respected politicians,'' Sea Eagles general manager David Perry said. ''It was positive what he said in regards to the future of Brookvale Oval.''
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Dave Smith will meet Manly officials this week to discuss the issue. The ARLC chief executive is also scheduled to meet Abbott on March 13 to discuss a range of issues including the NRL's own stadiums funding wish list. There are also tentative plans for him to sit down with the Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, this week. Smith said: ''I think rugby league will be more professional in terms of its interaction, we will want to work more closely with government - both state and federal.''​

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-a-lifeline-20130302-2fd27.html#ixzz2MQmnIDD4​

Lets hope they get it right and build a 30 000+ seat all weather stadium. As much as I hate Manly, they need and deserve one. North shore folk will never become good travellers over the bridge, but if you gave them something of quality and of modern standard they will pack it out for sure.​

Look at the way they fill the sh*t hole they have now, imagine how they would love going to the footy if they had something good and the promotion that they could do around having something that is state of the art. Build it and they will come.​

 

[Desert Qlder]

If you think the tea party will build a stadium then you would be quite foolish.

"The state of the budget is much worse than we realised"..."We no longer have the funds to pursue our election promises"...

etcetera etcetera.

 

[Perth Red]

What makes you think Manly has 30,000 fans? Brookie would take hundred million+ to get it close to modern standards, good luck with that!

 

[CC_Roosters]

A boutique stadium for 22-25k would be sufficient for manly, make it enclosed but leave a family hill at one end. $30m would surely cover that.

 

[Quidgybo]

Lets hope they get it right and build a 30 000+ seat all weather stadium. As much as I hate Manly, they need and deserve one. North shore folk will never become good travellers over the bridge, but if you gave them something of quality and of modern standard they will pack it out for sure.

Look at the way they fill the sh*t hole they have now, imagine how they would love going to the footy if they had something good and the promotion that they could do around having something that is state of the art. Build it and they will come.

Let's hope that before making any major investment of taxpayer money the powers that be ask whether existing modern facilities at Gosford and Moore Park adequately meet the needs of the wider communities north of the harbour and whether elite sports teams should simply be directed to make better use of those. And if it's found they don't then let's hope they ask exactly where it makes most sense to build any major new facility given existing public transport infrastructure and accessibility for the population of the entire region.

Leigh.

 

[Perth Red]

A boutique stadium for 22-25k would be sufficient for manly, make it enclosed but leave a family hill at one end. $30m would surely cover that.

We've just spent $95mill replacing two stands to build half a boutique stadium! There is a big difference between a short term patch up to make some slight improvements and a full scale redevelopment to make brookvale a modern stadium with another 40 years life in it.

It currently has one decent end stand, presuming they keep the grass hill at the other end it needs two new main stands. One with modern corporate facilities and around 10-12'000 seats ala nib/Newcastle and another with around 6-8000 covered seats. That would give them around 25,000 stadium that would seem them right for a few decades. However you would be looking at $100mill for those two stands.

 

[applesauce]

Cowboys plans for a new stadium precent (including a indoor stadium for the Crocodiles).

Govt confirms stadium study go-ahead

ANTHONY GALLOWAY | July 3rd, 2012 | Townsville Bulletin

TOWNSVILLE'S bid for a super stadium has been thrown a lifeline after the State Government confirmed it would provide $100,000 for a feasibility study into the project. Just two months after it was shelved by the new LNP Government, Premier Campbell Newman recommitted to jointly funding the study with Townsville City Council while in the city for community cabinet. However, the Government said it wouldn't be in a position to fund capital works for a new stadium in the next 3-5 years. The study would look at the viability of co-locating home grounds for the Cowboys and NBL team the Townsville Crocodiles in the CBD.

The Government shelved the study in May shortly after taking office, sparking Crocodiles CEO Ian Smythe to warn the club could go bust if a new stadium wasn't built because of the deterioration of the current convention centre. Yesterday, Mr Smythe said there was "light at the end of the tunnel". "If our sponsors and supporters see that there's light at the end of the tunnel, they will continue to support us," he said. Mr Smythe said Mr Newman was visibly enthusiastic after Mayor Jenny Hill and Cowboys CEO Laurence Lancini delivered a rough blueprint of the super stadium. "Once he had an opportunity to look at the project... he could see the merit," he said.

Three sites which have been flagged for the stadium include the 17ha southern rail land next to Ross Creek and Reid Park on Saunders St, Dean Park and the QR National site. Mr Lancini hailed the Government's reversal on the issue, saying a completed study would provide certainty as well as boost for efforts to secure funding. He said the complex would help revitalise the CBD and surrounding areas. "I think a joint facility will bring huge benefits," he said. "The impact on the growth and revitalisation of that area around the city will be huge. We will see restaurants, hotels and growth in residential values around the complex."

Townsville Enterprise CEO David Kippin said the study could be finished within 12 months. Cr Hill said that with the $100,000 the previous council promised still budgeted for, the Government's recommitment was great news for the region. She said a business case proving the complex was viable would greatly increase the chances of the stadium ever seeing the light of day. "We need to get the business case done to see whether or not it stacks up," she said. "That's how we got funding for the Magnetic Island Walkway, Flinders Street, Jezzine Barracks and RSL Stadium. "The business case will tell us the best way to go in order to get the complex up and if it's viable and reasons why."

Size matters as opinion divided over super stadium capacity

ANTHONY TEMPLETON | February 28th, 2013 | Townsville Bulletin

JUST how big should Townsville's super stadium and entertainment centre be when complete?

The potential capacity for the CBD super stadium has sparked debate between some of Townsville's most prominent sports administrators. Northern Fury board member Rabieh Krayem wants it to be restricted to 25,000 seats to ensure sport is regularly played in front of sell-out crowds, while Cowboys chairman Laurence Lancini wants a minimum capacity of 30,000 to cater for the club's growing fan base.

The debate comes as Townsville City Council and the State Government are putting the business case, which is expected to focus on a 30,000-capacity facility, for the proposal out to tender. Mr Krayem, who was chief executive of the Cowboys between 1995 and 2001, said the proposal should be scaled back to 25,000 maximum capacity. "You want to create that atmosphere where there are regular sell-outs, instead of struggling to fill the stadium," he said. "Look at clubs like Manchester United or the Los Angeles Lakers, they play in venues that are regularly sold out and the atmosphere during games is amazing. "Instead of building mega stadiums they have opted to have their teams playing in front of sell-out crowds because it creates a better atmosphere and keeps the fans coming back. "And most importantly you want to keep the maintenance and cleaning costs to a minimum to make it more affordable for all sports to use."However, Mr Lancini said he believed any new stadium would need a capacity of at least 30,000. "You need to build the stadium for the future," he said.

"The Cowboys have already had seasons where our average crowd figures are more than 20,000. "We hope to have average crowd figures above 25,000 as soon as we're able to move into any new stadium. "And we want any stadium to have the potential to host a State of Origin match or further (rugby league) Tests." Townsville Enterprise chief executive David Kippin said Townsville had a proven ability to draw big crowds to events. "From the research we have done we believe 30,000 is the right number to attract those international events," he said. "We are currently selling out (1300SMILES Stadium) already and that has a capacity of about 26,500, so we think 30,000 will be very achievable on a regular basis. "Although a more definite figure will be presented in the business case."

Mayor Jenny Hill wouldn't be drawn on the debate surrounding the capacity of the proposed super stadium and entertainment centre. "The capacity will likely be included in the business case for the proposal," she said. "But the terms of reference for the business case states the facility needs to be more than just a sports stadium, it needs to be an entertainment precinct for the whole region."

Thuringowa MP Sam Cox, who represents the area around 1300SMILES Stadium, said the business case needed to recognise Townsville's reputation as the events capital of North Queensland. "Any debate around capacity needs to take into consideration that Townsville draws crowds from Mackay to Cairns," he said. "I can't speculate on the final number, that will be in the business case, but it's not just a local stadium, it's going to be a regional venue."

Developer joins talks on city super stadium

JESSICA JOHNSTON | February 29th, 2012 | Townsville Bulletin

THE bid for a super-stadium in Townsville city is gaining momentum after leading developers asked for their prime creek-front site to be considered for the complex. The 17ha southern rail land adjacent to Ross Creek and Reid Park on Saunders St is one of three sites being considered for the project. Devine and Leighton Properties earmarked the land, which was purchased from QR for $25 million in 2008, for a $1.2 billion mixed residential and commercial hub dubbed Southbank Townsville.

Devine development manager Terry Conway said the company was interested to see whether the super-stadium could be integrated into their development. "We're obviously interested in the whole stadium and convention centre idea," he said. "If those facilities suit our site, we are more than happy to talk about those options. "We believe the new development for Townsville is a great idea and, wherever it goes, we support it. "The reclamation of the central city precinct is a very significant step forward for Townsville and there is the opportunity to make a real statement."

Dean Park and the QR National site are also being considered. Cowboys chairman Laurence Lancini favoured Southbank. "We acknowledge the issues with the QR national site. We have explored options for other sites and we've met with Devine with regards to their location," he said. "It is correctly located and is vacant and the option's there for us to further develop the concept and work with the necessary parties to try to seek support."

Townsville Crocodiles CEO Ian Smythe said the Devine push was a vote of confidence in the project. "We're really buoyed by their interest," he said. "When you have a developer of their calibre interested in looking at the proposal, it adds some merit to the project. "That whole area there is deserved of a great development. I think the stadium the Cowboys and Crocs have put forward fits that bill and we've got the owner on side and willing to talk to us."

Mr Smythe said having a stadium with a residential and commercial hub would benefit the stadium and the proponents of the development. "It has to be economically viable so the addition of commercial, retail and residential not only adds to the viability of the development but also adds to the viability for events," he said. Townsville Enterprise boss David Kippin said incorporating private investors would be crucial. He said building a convention centre first was a "clear priority", with the view to adding a stadium "some time down the track".

A feasibility study into the centre will start on March 8, with applications from six firms invited to bid on the study due today. It will examine potential sites and analyse the social and economic impacts on a new centre with a focus on revitalising the CBD. The continued use of the existing convention centre will be balanced against the projected demand for sporting, conference, exhibition and entertainment facilities. A draft of the study is due on May 1, with the final report on June 8.

 

[Perth Red]

Best of luck, cowboys fans deserve a decent home, plans look ambitious but a great asset for Townsville.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

I saw this good write up on the proposed T'ville CBD stadium, goes into a bit of detail about the site.
http://buildingtheville.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/073-townsville-joint-city-stadium.html

Obviously it is very early days for this proposal, but in my view, there is alot wrong with the design of current scheme:
-Stadium is oriented East/West, which would cause problems for afternoon games;
-The scheme relies on relocating the whole rail yards site, which is unlikely to be economically feasible;
-Lack of integration with adjacent sites and existing trees, etc;
-Buildings appear to sit within a ‘sea’ of carparking on all sides – lack of ‘street presence’;
-The vast quantity of surface carparking is excessive, given the proximity of the site to other parking facilities.

 

[de$$ie]

What makes you think Manly has 30,000 fans? Brookie would take hundred million+ to get it close to modern standards, good luck with that!

2008 grand final crowd. about 60-70k manly fans outta nowhere.

 

[Perth Red]

2008 grand final crowd. about 60-70k manly fans outta nowhere.

On the way to a GF and after winning a GF they can only pull around 15k, it is hard to see them troubling a 30k stadium anyteam in the near or distant future. A 25k should be the aim. Looking at this pic I take it back what I seaid about them having one decent end stand, the whole place needs rebuilding.

 

[big hit!]

manly are f**ked.

there's no incentive for Abbott & O'Farrell to provide for the sea eagles as that whole region votes conservative and will do for another century.

besides, if they're really going to provide something for the northern beaches, i'd have as a guess that most voters up there would want the public transport and road infrastructure which is at a standstill every single day of the week improved before funds are ploughed into facility which will be patronised 12 times a year.

Football clubs & the league should've made arrangements for venues over the century they've been in existance, particularly one such as the northern beaches which only has one viable tennant.