Future NRL Stadiums

[RedVee]

Interesting article from Michael Chammas in today's Sydney Morning Herald about stadiums -

Jubilee capacity is greater than 13,000.
Print version has capacity Jubilee 13,000 WIN 23,000.
I'm pretty sure Jubilee is constrained to 20,000 by the police due to it being hard to get to transgressors on the hill. From memory when the latest configuration was opened the notional capacity was 22,000. Bulldogs and Sharks games both drew 20k plus, then the capacity was knocked back.

 

[CC_Roosters]

Interesting part about the sea eagles. Is it alluding to some nrl assistance with funding perhaps from the future fund or is hq just assisting the club connecting the dots between council state and federal bodies?

No doubt that action needs to be taken now at manly or they will be left behind flim the next 5-10 years in revenue growth. Sharks and manly need to be looking at right game right venue as the dragons have done.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Eels, Wanderers unveil $120m plan to upgrade Pirtek Stadium
Date
April 26, 2014 - 10:00PM
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Michael Chammas
Rugby league reporter

The Parramatta Eels and Western Sydney Wanderers have unveiled a $120 million proposal to turn Pirtek Stadium into a 32,000-seat venue that would supersede plans to build a new stadium in western Sydney.

The Eels and Wanderers met with Venues NSW and Parramatta City Council on Thursday to discuss the proposal to build new grandstands at the northern and southern ends of the ground that would link the Ken Thornett and Mick Cronin stands.

There are also plans to build commercial space into the back of the proposed new grandstands that would allow for restaurants, cafes and offices to bring revenue into the precinct.


Artist's impression of stage one of Parramatta Stadium's redevelopment. Photo: Supplied
It comes a fortnight after Fairfax Media revealed a proposal has been put forward to sell the greyhound racetrack at Wentworth Park for a billion-dollar residential development that would fund a new 35,000-seat roofed stadium in Penrith.

The No.1 priority for the Parramatta precinct is to establish new training facilities and a high performance centre that would provide the Eels with a new gym, rehabilitation facilities and an extension of the training field from 70 metres to 110 metres.

That will run concurrently with a redevelopment of the stadium that includes an upgrade of its facilities and an increase in capacity by almost 12,000.

''Members and fans need to understand that we want to make a long term commitment to playing games in Parramatta,'' Eels chief executive Scott Seward said.

''We want a 32,000-seat stadium in Parramatta. It's the home of the Eels. Yes, there's a commercial reality, but we want to be playing games here. Our first priority is to establish a training and high performance centre for the players which is up to NRL standard. It's a recruitment and retention tool that we currently don't have.

''We also want to increase the capacity of the ground, and we've been working closely with the Western Sydney Wanderers to develop that. Thursday's meeting was the most productive meeting we've had and we now have a clear pathway of the direction we want to go. We want to provide a great experience, and to do that we need to update things such as the ground's Wi-Fi capabilities.''

Pirtek Stadium was given a $29 million government grant last year ($20 million federal, $6 million state and $3 million local) to upgrade the venue and the Eels and Wanderers have been debating the best way to use the money.

The Wanderers have close to 16,000 members but do not train at Parramatta, while the Eels are based at Pirtek Stadium and have more than 15,000 members.

It is understood the Wanderers and Eels have now agreed on how the money should be spent.

The Eels have a 12-month licence at Old King's School across the road from Pirtek Stadium that expires at the end of the year.

The club wants to extend its contract and is pushing for a long term lease that will provide a second training option that would cater for their NRL, National Youth League, SG Ball and Harold Matthews teams, as well as to be used as a community facility.

The Eels now play nine home games a year at Pirtek Stadium, two at ANZ Stadium and one in the Northern Territory.

The proposal for a new stadium in Penrith includes an aquatic centre, with discussions about the venue being controlled by the ANZ Stadium Trust.

This would allow the four western Sydney-based NRL teams – Parramatta, Canterbury, Penrith and Wests Tigers – to split home matches between ANZ Stadium and the new Penrith stadium based on the number of fans each game is expected to attract.

The Penrith stadium proposal has been backed by Penrith MP Stuart Ayres, who was appointed this week Minister for Sport, taking over from Gabrielle Upton as part of a cabinet shuffle.

It is unclear what impact Ayres' appointment will have on the Parramatta proposal given his ties to Penrith.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...tek-stadium-20140426-zqzzv.html#ixzz302ADIdJo

 

[Sunshine Coast Tiger]

Interesting part about the sea eagles. Is it alluding to some nrl assistance with funding perhaps from the future fund or is hq just assisting the club connecting the dots between council state and federal bodies?

No doubt that action needs to be taken now at manly or they will be left behind flim the next 5-10 years in revenue growth. Sharks and manly need to be looking at right game right venue as the dragons have done.

I would be dirty if the NRL gave money to Manly for their stadium. Stuff them, let them pay the big games at the big stadiums which is what the NRL want.

The NRL should be putting up some money to ensure a new western Sydney stadium is built to ensure we have a great facility going forward. This would be a way better use of NRL funds that supporting one club in Manly.

 

[Sunshine Coast Tiger]

The Penrith stadium is a waste as no NRL side but Penrith will play a home game there ever.

 

[oikee]

That Parra stadium is just more waste for western sydney's growth.
Why build a 32 thousand stadium that is just slightly bigger than what they have now and dont fill, what they really need is a new mega stadium that can allow for growth up to 55 thousand.
Once they hit 32 thousand, they are turning fans away,,, or worse,,,, have to take the game to the big white elephant where rain or a cold night simply keeps people away and 35 thousand looks empty.

To be honest, the NRL really has no vision if they build a smaller 30 thousand ground.
Parra stadium can then be used for all those games mentioned in the story above. SB ball, Matthews, Community league and games against the Cows and Storm , Titans etc.

They dont need to be building a 30 thousand white elephant, they need to be building a 55 thousand mega stadium.
It will just be 120 million wasted on no vision otherwise.
They build a 55 thousand and all teams out west can take bigger games their, as long as it is close to Parramatta city and restaurants shops and pubs.

 

[cleary89]

30,000 white elephant, need a 55k. lololol

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Wow, that Parra Stadium design is terrible!!!

Their great selling point is that their design is already half built but that just makes the overall design halfassed...

 

[duylm]

The Penrith stadium is a waste as no NRL side but Penrith will play a home game there ever.

I'm a Penrith member and I feel embarassed anytime this development proposal gets mentioned / pushed. Parramatta and Canturbury and the Tigers playing out of Penrith is the most brain-dead suggestion I've ever heard. ooooooh it's backed by the MP for Penrith, that changes everything.

And the Wanderers have indicated that they will never move there because again their base of fans live significantly east of Penrith.

The other day David Gallop was asked his opinion in light if the Wanderers playing there "FFA chief David Gallop said rectangular stadiums had been built or upgraded in Brisbane, the Gold Coast, Newcastle, Wollongong and Melbourne but not Sydney. ?But whether Penrith is the answer for residents of Western Sydney seems problematic .."

I think that's diplomatically saying get your hand off it and stop wasting everyone's time.

Wasn't there a suggestion for Campbelltown like this too? Instead of every single club claiming individually we are the best place for the upgrade, the ARLC needs to take charge, sit all the clubs down (include the Wanderers) and nut out a plan, and then present a united front politically. Imagine how much more clout one proposal would have instead being 5 different schoolyard kids screaming it should be mine.

For example how much money / resources have Penrith sunk into paying consultants over this.

We know the state government only wants to fund 1 middle tier stadium. It needs to be centred vs the future expected population base of Western Sydney including transport infrastructure (I don't see Parramatta being the population centre of the future west), and it needs to have a roof so that the 5k-9k rain affected crowds are a thing of the past.

 

[oikee]

I'm a Penrith member and I feel embarassed anytime this development proposal gets mentioned / pushed. Parramatta and Canturbury and the Tigers playing out of Penrith is the most brain-dead suggestion I've ever heard. ooooooh it's backed by the MP for Penrith, that changes everything.

And the Wanderers have indicated that they will never move there because again their base of fans live significantly east of Penrith.

The other day David Gallop was asked his opinion in light if the Wanderers playing there "FFA chief David Gallop said rectangular stadiums had been built or upgraded in Brisbane, the Gold Coast, Newcastle, Wollongong and Melbourne but not Sydney. ?But whether Penrith is the answer for residents of Western Sydney seems problematic .."

I think that's diplomatically saying get your hand off it and stop wasting everyone's time.

Wasn't there a suggestion for Campbelltown like this too? Instead of every single club claiming individually we are the best place for the upgrade, the ARLC needs to take charge, sit all the clubs down (include the Wanderers) and nut out a plan, and then present a united front politically. Imagine how much more clout one proposal would have instead being 5 different schoolyard kids screaming it should be mine.

For example how much money / resources have Penrith sunk into paying consultants over this.

We know the state government only wants to fund 1 middle tier stadium. It needs to be centred vs the future expected population base of Western Sydney including transport infrastructure (I don't see Parramatta being the population centre of the future west), and it needs to have a roof so that the 5k-9k rain affected crowds are a thing of the past.

Mate, spot on. That is what i have been trying to put across. I sound like a lunatic, as Cleary pointed out above, you sound like a genius.

As you said, they have 5 teams that can make use of a brand new stadium right near Parramatta seems the most logical, or somewhere near transport, (trains, and busses).

Build a humdinger of a stadium, one that all these teams want to play out of, and where fans want to turn-up.

Do this and they will grow crowds to not only 20 thousand, but beyond.
Put two new expansion teams into NZ and Brisbane, and the game is set for growth into the next century.

 

[oikee]

P.S, imagine this game after the Anzac day blockbusters we had this year.

Now imagine this, a game the next day in NZ between the new NZ expansion team, verse the second Brisbane expansion team. That would be huge.
Plus if we had a team in Perth, we could have had a game their instead of at the big white elephant while the soccer semi is on.
We need a planning mastermind. Someone who can set out all our blockbusters at the perfect time and perfect place, and then just fill in the gaps around those blockbusters.

What we got this year was a complete shamozzle.
Anzac day was about the only thing they have done right. And bringing in a Brisbane Anzac day game was a no-brainer.

 

[newman]

P.S, imagine this game after the Anzac day blockbusters we had this year.

Now imagine this, a game the next day in NZ between the new NZ expansion team, verse the second Brisbane expansion team. That would be huge.
Plus if we had a team in Perth, we could have had a game their instead of at the big white elephant while the soccer semi is on.
We need a planning mastermind. Someone who can set out all our blockbusters at the perfect time and perfect place, and then just fill in the gaps around those blockbusters.

What we got this year was a complete shamozzle.
Anzac day was about the only thing they have done right. And bringing in a Brisbane Anzac day game was a no-brainer.

Imagine if we had if we had a team in Ljubljana, Slovenia? The growth opportunities are endless. I hear their government have committed to funding a 250k seater underwater stadium.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

I'm a Penrith member and I feel embarassed anytime this development proposal gets mentioned / pushed. Parramatta and Canturbury and the Tigers playing out of Penrith is the most brain-dead suggestion I've ever heard. ooooooh it's backed by the MP for Penrith, that changes everything.

And the Wanderers have indicated that they will never move there because again their base of fans live significantly east of Penrith.

The other day David Gallop was asked his opinion in light if the Wanderers playing there "FFA chief David Gallop said rectangular stadiums had been built or upgraded in Brisbane, the Gold Coast, Newcastle, Wollongong and Melbourne but not Sydney. ?But whether Penrith is the answer for residents of Western Sydney seems problematic .."

I think that's diplomatically saying get your hand off it and stop wasting everyone's time.

Wasn't there a suggestion for Campbelltown like this too? Instead of every single club claiming individually we are the best place for the upgrade, the ARLC needs to take charge, sit all the clubs down (include the Wanderers) and nut out a plan, and then present a united front politically. Imagine how much more clout one proposal would have instead being 5 different schoolyard kids screaming it should be mine.

For example how much money / resources have Penrith sunk into paying consultants over this.

We know the state government only wants to fund 1 middle tier stadium. It needs to be centred vs the future expected population base of Western Sydney including transport infrastructure (I don't see Parramatta being the population centre of the future west), and it needs to have a roof so that the 5k-9k rain affected crowds are a thing of the past.

This is actually the biggest positive Parramatta have in trying to get this stadium.....

Parra is not a big population centre, but it is the biggest economic centre in the West.

Its not a suburban waste land (like campbeltown) where each family has their own McMansion, spreading the population so thin that no business could possibly survive there and no public transport can possibly be built...

Parra is a CBD that brings people in every morning to work and filters them out every afternoon (mostly on public transport). If you want to live there you live in a tower-block apartment and there is a vibrant bar/restaurant/cafe scene.

Im not saying its my favourite option, but this is why Parra wouldnt be a bad choice....

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Imagine if we had if we had a team in Ljubljana, Slovenia? The growth opportunities are endless. I hear their government have committed to funding a 250k seater underwater stadium.

Your totally right...

Lets keep playing in Cronulla in front of 6,000 people instead....

 

[newman]

Your totally right...

Lets keep playing in Cronulla in front of 6,000 people instead....

Sounds perfect. And more likely than anything dreamt up by nuffies like Perth Red and oikee.

 

[oikee]

Sounds perfect. And more likely than anything dreamt up by nuffies like Perth Red and oikee.

Good, then enjoy your cricket score matches at Manly dirt-pile because i wont be watching.

I flicked on the score seen 40 nil and turned it off.
That will bring in the punters.
I just finished writing on the Broncos blog about the quality of the teams, very poor, one out footy.
Manly against kids proves my point.
The rest of the teams are just five-hit-ups and a kick normally down the fullbacks throat.

The Warriors won with a under 20's second rower in the centres, against the Storm. ?
The way the game is going, we wont have to worry about stadiums, no one will be watching.
Where is Raiderdave, hey your team just got cricket scored.
Cant remember Ricky Stuart's team ever playing crap footy that bad.

 

[pHyR3]

Good, then enjoy your cricket score matches at Manly dirt-pile because i wont be watching.

I flicked on the score seen 40 nil and turned it off.
That will bring in the punters.
I just finished writing on the Broncos blog about the quality of the teams, very poor, one out footy.
Manly against kids proves my point.
The rest of the teams are just five-hit-ups and a kick normally down the fullbacks throat.

The Warriors won with a under 20's second rower in the centres, against the Storm. ?
The way the game is going, we wont have to worry about stadiums, no one will be watching.
Where is Raiderdave, hey your team just got cricket scored.
Cant remember Ricky Stuart's team ever playing crap footy that bad.

this has been an amazingly close comp this year.

once again your opinions proven to be worthles

 

[CC_Roosters]

Good, then enjoy your cricket score matches at Manly dirt-pile because i wont be watching.

I flicked on the score seen 40 nil and turned it off.
That will bring in the punters.
I just finished writing on the Broncos blog about the quality of the teams, very poor, one out footy.
Manly against kids proves my point.
The rest of the teams are just five-hit-ups and a kick normally down the fullbacks throat.

The Warriors won with a under 20's second rower in the centres, against the Storm. ?
The way the game is going, we wont have to worry about stadiums, no one will be watching.
Where is Raiderdave, hey your team just got cricket scored.
Cant remember Ricky Stuart's team ever playing crap footy that bad.

Your a nutcase. Wow one blowout score in a season were most games have been very close. Every comp in the world has blowouts, big teams, small teams and the nrl is not so exceptional as to not suffer from these variations.

The warriors beat the storm? Big deal! They used big bodies and bashed them out of the game, not to mention two quality still young players in Johnson and tomkins who killed it for them.

 

[thorson1987]

Good, then enjoy your cricket score matches at Manly dirt-pile because i wont be watching.

I flicked on the score seen 40 nil and turned it off.
That will bring in the punters.
I just finished writing on the Broncos blog about the quality of the teams, very poor, one out footy.
Manly against kids proves my point.
The rest of the teams are just five-hit-ups and a kick normally down the fullbacks throat.

The Warriors won with a under 20's second rower in the centres, against the Storm. ?
The way the game is going, we wont have to worry about stadiums, no one will be watching.
Where is Raiderdave, hey your team just got cricket scored.
Cant remember Ricky Stuart's team ever playing crap footy that bad.

This post just proves you have no idea.

I thought this thread was troll free.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Just prefer they put the money into fixing up anz. Better roof, bring the ends in.