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Kilkenny

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That is also assuming that the Dogs wouldn't have kept going. There is reasons not to get into bidding wars
I can’t remember the words used by Matt Cameron but it was obvious we were in no position to get close to what the Bulldogs were prepared to offer. As history shows we won another premiership without Crichton, Lenui and quite a few other fringe players So I guess the club was proven right.
 

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I can’t remember the words used by Matt Cameron but it was obvious we were in no position to get close to what the Bulldogs were prepared to offer. As history shows we won another premiership without Crichton, Lenui and quite a few other fringe players So I guess the club was proven right.

We could of matched it but it would of cost us other players. That is the flow on.

Taylan was a bust but Alamoti turned out decent enough.

Also got to keep McLean and bring across Talagi so we may end up with 3 very very good NRL players for the price of Crichton
 

Chins get the wins

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The Bulldogs offer was an offer we couldn’t get near given our position so I don’t think he or anyone else f**ked up. Business decision.
Yes and no. May was never going to cut it as a centre, gun winger though and Alamoti was cheap. I'd say we paid more for Tago/May than we would have for Critter and a kid.
Alls well that ends well i guess.
 

Kilkenny

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We could of matched it but it would of cost us other players. That is the flow on.

Taylan was a bust but Alamoti turned out decent enough.

Also got to keep McLean and bring across Talagi so we may end up with 3 very very good NRL players for the price of Crichton
Alamoti should continue to get better as will both MCLeans so I think the decision has been vindicated. It’s never easy to lose home grown supreme talents but it is what it is I guess.
 

Iamback

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Yes and no. May was never going to cut it as a centre, gun winger though and Alamoti was cheap. I'd say we paid more for Tago/May than we would have for Critter and a kid.
Alls well that ends well i guess.

Possibly don't re-sign Sorro too.

So it is more than a centre for Critta
 

Kilkenny

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Yes and no. May was never going to cut it as a centre, gun winger though and Alamoti was cheap. I'd say we paid more for Tago/May than we would have for Critter and a kid.
Alls well that ends well i guess.
I think Taylan May had huge potential as a player, but as things turned out his off field indiscretions probably did us a favour going forward. Having regard to the concept of risk and reward the risk around him outweighed his worth to the team, club and culture.
 

Iamback

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Alamoti should continue to get better as will both MCLeans so I think the decision has been vindicated. It’s never easy to lose home grown supreme talents but it is what it is I guess.

It never is but we got 3 premierships out of him and turned him into an Origin player, I will take losing guys if that is what we get
 

Kilkenny

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That is the stuff up the club made. Ivan should be excused from discussions revolving around Nathan's childhood friends.
I don’t see how you can draw any conclusion that it was a stuff up on the part of the club.

Individuals have to take ownership of their decisions or actions.

The club make recruitment and retention decisions based on many reasons, and I fail to see how they could have foreshadowed what played out with Taylan Mays situation. Not much different to the current issues around Mam at the Broncos.

How do you factor in future player indiscretions when making decisions around there retention and worth.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, we got off lightly with Taylan May, the Broncos May not be so fortunate with Mam.
 

Pomoz

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Matt Cameron impressed me. Thoughtful, measured, calm. No hollywood style bullshit leadership, but substance and intelligence.

Ivan and Matt must be two of the calmest, intelligent leaders in the NRL. It must instill so much confidence in the players. Nothing good comes from emotional decision making and panic.

The club is in good hands.
 

Kilkenny

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Matt Cameron impressed me. Thoughtful, measured, calm. No hollywood style bullshit leadership, but substance and intelligence.

Ivan and Matt must be two of the calmest, intelligent leaders in the NRL. It must instill so much confidence in the players. Nothing good comes from emotional decision making and panic.

The club is in good hands.
He was very impressive.
 

Iamback

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I don’t see how you can draw any conclusion that it was a stuff up on the part of the club.

Individuals have to take ownership of their decisions or actions.

The club make recruitment and retention decisions based on many reasons, and I fail to see how they could have foreshadowed what played out with Taylan Mays situation. Not much different to the current issues around Mam at the Broncos.

How do you factor in future player indiscretions when making decisions around there retention and worth.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, we got off lightly with Taylan May, the Broncos May not be so fortunate with Mam.

We have 11 people in the retention committee.

I get that Ivan is close to the family but you are telling me that none of the other 10 had any idea that he was a mess off the field?
 

Iamback

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Matt Cameron impressed me. Thoughtful, measured, calm. No hollywood style bullshit leadership, but substance and intelligence.

Ivan and Matt must be two of the calmest, intelligent leaders in the NRL. It must instill so much confidence in the players. Nothing good comes from emotional decision making and panic.

The club is in good hands.

It is why if you go back through my posts I wasn't worried once Gus was moved on.

I didn't think it would play out this well but we had calm heads involved as opposed to the Gus way.

You need Head office and coach on the same page and we have that here
 

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