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Gould reviewing Dragons.

Coffs dragon

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The review is correct in that there was a severe lack of expertise in the coaching box. Hornby and Young (like Mary) have no business being in an NRL coaching team. They got appointed back in 2014 (by Mary) with only minimal experience in 20's and Flegg.

Other clubs have expertise of guys like O'Brien, Fitzgibbon, Ryles, Jim Dymock, JD etc. Even former head coaches like Taylor, Cartwright and Furner have landed assistant gigs.

So not only are we massively outgunned in the head coaching space, but also when it comes to assistant coaches as well.

Is it any wonder we play such a clueless brand of footy. At the very least, if we can get some football knowledge in the joint, that's a good start.
The final act of ignorance & stupidly will be when Board & Management name Dean Young still in the coaching system, due to some lame excuse!
I cannot see Flanno working under the useless Peanut in Nepotism Dragon land. Expect some other experienced cheap assistant like Mick Potter to be added and then run over.
 

Dragon David

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[Part 2]

End of season fade-outs
Setting aside 2014 (McGregor’s first half-season), the Dragons have run out of puff mid-way through every year. In 2015 they did not win between rounds 12 and 21. In 2016, they registered just two wins after round 16. In 2017, they won four after round 13. In 2018 it was just three wins after round 16.

In 2019, after re-signing McGregor for a further two years, the Dragons managed just four wins after round 6. Two of these were against the atrocious Titan, one against the 14th placed Cowboys, and one against the then last Bulldogs.

McGregor has not been able to identify or fix these problems. The flip side to this is that for the last three years the Dragons have started the season well. Rumour has it that the Dragons board is determined not to admit that they erred in re-signing McGregor so soon, and have set him an early 2020 test that he needs to pass in order to retain his position. History suggests he will pass this test, then fade again.

Inability to nurture up and coming talent
In 2016, the Dragons reserve grade side won the premiership and interstate cup under Jason Demetriou. Demetrious was moved on the next year. In 2019 the Dragons reserve grade side is in the preliminary final under Matt Head. There are reports he will be sacked at the end of the year.

The Dragons development systems are full of talent that does not get a look into McGregor’s teams, and either atrophies or looks for opportunities elsewhere. For example Lachlan Timm leads the reserve grade competition for runs, decoy runs, metres, post contact metres and tackles. McGregor could not find a place for him in his top 21 all year, nor explain to fans why.

Jackson Ford, who just trailed Timm in numerous categories, was given a start in round 21 with the season long gone. Jason Saab was handed a jersey in round 19, with the season gone. Zac Lomax was demoted to reserve grade after starring at the back end of 2018. Reuben Garrick, starved of opportunities, fled to Manly where he starred. Pat Herbert found a start at the Warriors. Josh Kerr, Mikaele Ravilawa, Jai Field, Taane Milne were and are ignored. Coach favourites Josh McCrone, Jeremy Latimore, Euan Aitken, Tim Lafai and others have been automatic selections, and opportunities presented to journeymen like Lachlan Maranta and Patrick Faufusi.

This phenomenon is not new. As early as 2016 articles about this ‘coaching technique destroying the Dragons’ were written after McGregor ‘left the great red and white hope and off-load machine, Luciano Leilua, on the bench’ in a crucial game until the team was 30 points down and the season done. The highly talented Leilua remains a fringe first grader in 2019. In 2017, Brendan Bradford asked whether it was ‘time for McGregor to start playing some of the young-guns the Dragons have in their ranks?’ McGregor circa 2019 appears to disagree still.

Sympathetic commentators point out that squad deficiencies are not McGregor’s fault. Apart from the fact that McGregor himself says he ‘has the roster he wants’, those same commentators would do well to acknowledge that McGregor lost responsibility for recruitment and retention after a disastrous 2016 season at the recommendation of Mark Coyne and the board. This change was meant to allow him to focus on results.

Inability to accept shortcomings and demonstrate leadership
Andrew Webster recently wrote about the Dragons ‘season from hell’, noting the de Belin and Widdop issues, but also questioning some of the other excuses offered. For a period McGregor’s press conferences became a catchphrase bingo as he noted the opposition scored tries from kicks (as if they don’t count) among other odd pronouncements. In April after losing to the Roosters, McGregor repeatedly referred to them as ‘the best team in the world’. In June he said that ‘If we stop the game after 30 minutes we’re in the top 4’. In July he said the team had ‘next level distractions and no element of luck’. When the team had slid to 14th McGregor declared that ‘we can win [the comp]’.

McGregor is well supported by a revolving cast of assistants who appear to take the fall for the team’s results. In addition to Demetrious and Head being moved on despite their success, reports are that Ben Hornby, Mick Crawley and maybe Dean Young are also on their way out after 2019. They join the numerous other backroom staff that the Dragons have cycled through in the McGregor years. Across town, Trent Robinson supported the ambitious Adam O’Brien’s interest in the top job at Newcastle, saying ‘That's what head coaches are there for. We are there to develop and progress, and he is good enough for the job.’ The difference in leadership philosophy and respect is stark.

Throughout 2019 there has been a deafening silence from the Dragons CEO and board as records tumbled. The club made prominent noises about a Gould review late in the season, only for it to appear to be a sham. The press release noted that Gould had ‘agreed to take part in aspects’ of the review. Gould later acknowledged he was not being paid, and was involved ‘as a favour to Dragons coach and good friend Paul McGregor, who will not be under pressure.’

The Dragons are crumbling with McGregor at the helm. Removing responsibilities has not worked and nor has cycling through assistants. For the sake of the fans, I hope that there is more happening behind the scenes than it appears.
It was very good that you submitted this to The Roar in any case Paddles. Well documented!
 

hazzbeen

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Anyone remember the movie "The Long Ships"?
Richard Widmark gives a great portrayal of Mary using all his bull shit skills to avoid what should have been inevitable.
This scene should have been the end but unfortunately he bluffed his way out of it as usual.
Never seen this , what happened next , did the next bloke die , or did the equivalent to Hornby , get the chop and Mary still stands.....
 

Slippery Morris

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Damn I was gonna hit a milestone next season with my membership. Guess I won't now until the car salesman of a coach we have is gone. He can probably sell sand to the Arabs this bloke. Incredible.
 
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Old Timer

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Never seen this , what happened next , did the next bloke die , or did the equivalent to Hornby , get the chop and Mary still stands.....
Hazza
It’s a great movie and you will see the likeness of Widmark and Mary
To answer your question Widmark (Viking Prince) sells the leader of the Moors (Sidney Portier) on the notion that there is a golden bell worth a fortune and thus saved his neck
Alas the poor Moor who was sacrificed died for nothing
Awfully familiar scenario I’m afraid.
 

hazzbeen

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Hazza
It’s a great movie and you will see the likeness of Widmark and Mary
To answer your question Widmark (Viking Prince) sells the leader of the Moors (Sidney Portier) on the notion that there is a golden bell worth a fortune and thus saved his neck
Alas the poor Moor who was sacrificed died for nothing
Awfully familiar scenario I’m afraid.
Thanks mate , will get a hold of this and watch it ...
 

kit66

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If McGregor is retained as coach that'll do me, I'll go follow another team until he's gone. I'm not wasting my Membership dollars on this bunch of fools.
Also, hearing that the hapless McGregor is contemplating bringing back an expensive and very injury prone player as a remedy to our ailing fortunes just shows I'll be making the right call.
 

Lovemedragons

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No Surprises here.
The question will be - when and under what circumstances will McGregor finally be shown the door?
First 6 games will 3/3 be acceptable for example?
What is the straw that will break the camel's back?
Whatever these jokers decide, the fans staying away in droves and not renewing membership is something the Board cannot ignore forever.
Another pathetic decision by the Board.
Review is complete alright.
A complete joke.
That camel must have one sore back
 

Blood Shot Eyes

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The article says there was a difference of opinion within the board and this has been mentioned by a couple of posters before.

Can someone with any info let me know what the actual difference of opinion was and who was on which side?
Some wanted Tim Tams served with their coffee....while others wanted Orange Creams.....thats how much importance was placed on this smokescreen of a review
 
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Bigdogsbedtime

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The review is correct in that there was a severe lack of expertise in the coaching box. Hornby and Young (like Mary) have no business being in an NRL coaching team. They got appointed back in 2014 (by Mary) with only minimal experience in 20's and Flegg.

Other clubs have expertise of guys like O'Brien, Fitzgibbon, Ryles, Jim Dymock, JD etc. Even former head coaches like Taylor, Cartwright and Furner have landed assistant gigs.

So not only are we massively outgunned in the head coaching space, but also when it comes to assistant coaches as well.

Is it any wonder we play such a clueless brand of footy. At the very least, if we can get some football knowledge in the joint, that's a good start.

Dude O'brien has never coached a team on his own at any level. Ryles is the same but he has playing experience. O'Brien got jobs by being mates with Bellyache prior to him starting coaching. Newcastle are more f**ked than us next year
 

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