Greg Bird charged with violent attack

[Rexxy]

so has there been any suggestion of the use of illicit drugs by one of the parties?

any talk of group sex?

 

[Surely]

I dont think it looks bad for her at all. On the contrary I think it looks terrible for Bird.

IF it was all an accident and she says so what will the prosecutors say to her on the stand??
"Miss Milligan is it not true that your defence attourney has a direct relationship with the accused? Miss Milligan is it not plausible your testimony has been compromised"

"Your honor permission to treat the witness as hostile.."

It provides the prosecution to put doubt into her statement IF it is favourable to his cause.. If her testimony can be put into doubt then the circumstantial evidence bears more weight..

Yeah righto Matlock.

 

[Surely]

so has there been any suggestion of the use of illicit drugs by one of the parties?

any talk of group sex?

Not yet maybe thats why watsons distancing himself, doesn't want to be known as the meat in the sandwich so to speak.

 

[Mr Angry]

so has there been any suggestion of the use of illicit drugs by one of the parties?

any talk of group sex?

Now now rexxxy we are not talking about our night out. LOL

 

[Dave Q]

As opposed to prohibition, where the above is far more prevalent. But you would support that hey Dave?

No, I wouldnt support prohibition, but I do support a downsizing of the liquor culture.

Better education, less liquor outlets, once a pub shuts not allow its licence to be transferred, no grog ads etc.

Raise the legal age to drink to 23

All pubs shut by 12.00am

Ban drinking near kids at home after 10pm etc

Some people shouldnt drink at all ( bad drunks), but I cant think of a fair way to implement that.

Other than that, sure, my shout.

 

[Surely]

No, I wouldnt support prohibition, but I do support a downsizing of the liquor culture.

Better education, less liquor outlets, once a pub shuts not allow its licence to be transferred, no grog ads etc.

Less pubs would mean more people crowded into whatever is left, i think that would be worse.

 

[TITAN1]

Ban drinking near kids at home after 10pm etc

quote]

So how ya gonna police that,Elliot Ness?

 

[coolumsharkie]

I'm sure if the pokies were gone no one would care less about who drinks what and what they do when they drink.

I can see pubs in the future being Casino's, with strict alcohol blood levels to make sure you are betting responsibly.

You can feed the monster but don't get too upset about losing your money. <--- Maybe that one is already here. six of one...

 

[gunnamatta bay]

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24258579-5006009,00.html

As well as being charged with maliciously inflicting grievous bodily harm on Ms Milligan, he is due to face court in relation to an incident involving a 20-year-old Victorian woman at a Cronulla nightclub in January.

The paper seems to be speculating the girlfriend may be considering not co operating with police. That's her choice of course although in domestic violence matters victims are compellable witnesses and can be arrested and put before the court and questioned.

All well and fine but my question is why it took seven months to take action on this other incident? It's not like bird was hard to find.

 

[samshark]

A NEW THEORY!

Bird got home at 7:30am after a big night, found his girlfriend bleeding and semi-conscious, with a broken glass nearby. She was dazed and confused, and jibbering. When she realised what had happened, she went off and blamed him. Bird wasn't there when the incident happened. He put 2 and 2 together and blamed his mate, who conveniently was off playing golf by this time. Bird told the police this, and then was trying to get in touch with his mate to let him know that the Police were involved.

Allegedly....

Thats not a bad scenario. Only problem is, why would Bird then text his mate saying 'there's been an accident, we've told the police it was you, how do you feel about that'

 

[samshark]

The paper seems to be speculating the girlfriend may be considering not co operating with police. That's her choice of course although in domestic violence matters victims are compellable witnesses and can be arrested and put before the court and questioned.

All well and fine but my question is why it took seven months to take action on this other incident? It's not like bird was hard to find.

Yeah Ive been wondering that as well. What the hell was the officer in charge doing for the last seven months? Maybe it was a case of Bird being loaded up.

 

[carcharias]

FFS
he did it....but IMO it was not anywhere near as deliberate as what the media have been banging on about.

He has fugged up with the sms to the flat mate stuff.
I wonder who put him up to it?
That looks very bad.

I wouldn't mind seeing a bit of info on her background...eg ex boyfriends opinion of her etc.
Does she have a track record for being a jealous bunny boiler?

The fact that she knew him for 2 seconds and them moved across the planet to be with him sounds very strange to me.
What ever happened to getting to know somebody , courtship, long engagements and then get married and move in together so you can finally make love for the first time?

 

[gunnamatta bay]

Yeah Ive been wondering that as well. What the hell was the officer in charge doing for the last seven months? Maybe it was a case of Bird being loaded up.

You have to ask the question don't you? Why did they sit on this for so long? They charged him on sunday night seven months after the alleged incident. Very strange.

 

[DJDL]

FFS
he did it....but IMO it was not anywhere near as deliberate as what the media have been banging on about.

He has fugged up with the sms to the flat mate stuff.
I wonder who put him up to it?
That looks very bad.

I'm starting to think that if it was an accident, and her injuries are not as bad as has been reported, he asked his mate to take the blame to keep media attention away from him, and having no idea just how serious the media would portray the incident to be.

I mean honestly, would anyone in their right mind smash a glass into someone's face and ask a mate to take the rap? That part just doesn't add up. But if he thinks she has some injuries that, while minor, are still serious but won't attract the sort of media circus they have then you might ask someone to take the rap for you. He's well aware of how the media blow things out of control, but I don't think he had any idea of the magnitude of what they'd do with this.

I wouldn't mind seeing a bit of info on her background...eg ex boyfriends opinion of her etc.
Does she have a track record for being a jealous bunny boiler?

The fact that she knew him for 2 seconds and them moved across the planet to be with him sounds very strange to me.
What ever happened to getting to know somebody , courtship, long engagements and then get married and move in together so you can finally make love for the first time?

You watched a lot of Leave It To Beaver as a kid, didn't you?

 

[gunnamatta bay]

The fact that she knew him for 2 seconds and them moved across the planet to be with him sounds very strange to me.
What ever happened to getting to know somebody , courtship, long engagements and then get married and move in together so you can finally make love for the first time?

Love at first sight?

 

[Rexxy]

Love at first sight?

Mail order bride?

 

[gunnamatta bay]

Mail order bride?

email bride? text message bride?

 

[carcharias]

Mail order bride?

Hey rexxy you mentioned drugs before?

She was studying law?

A drug bust here in Australia gets you kicked out of law school for ever.

Just ask the drummer from eskimo joe.

hows this twist in the conspiracy theory.

She says she was on drugs and it was her fault.
she loses her career
She says it was his fault ..he loses his career.

she says nothing...both getto keep their career.

it is a long shot...I I doubt it would be true.

 

[Danger]

The paper seems to be speculating the girlfriend may be considering not co operating with police. That's her choice of course although in domestic violence matters victims are compellable witnesses and can be arrested and put before the court and questioned

But they would still have to prove she is lying, and if there are no other witnesses, it would be pretty much their words with nothing to prove otherwise, without her word, the cops can really only speculate what happened.

 

[Dave Q]

Ban drinking near kids at home after 10pm etc

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So how ya gonna police that, Elliot Ness?

Titan my old extremist buddy.

Most people obey the law even in the absence of the means of enforcement.

It would be a pretty sad world if we only obeyed the law if the cops were present. A peaceful and civilised society more or less relies on this kind of social goodwill. Thats why people stop at traffic lights when theres no other traffic around etc.

Crimes Act Section XXXX

Drunk with care of children.

The elements of the offence would be:

1. That a person under 15 (a child) is present on the premises.
2. That there is no responsible adult on the property with a pca of .05 or less with care or responsibility of the children.
3. The behaviour and conduct of persons present represents a safety risk to the children.

As for reporting, one of the kids or a neighbour could ring as often bad behaviour is accompanied by loud noises.

Penalty: First offence: Counselling program and/or fine of up o $500
Second of subsequent offence: 5 years (max).