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Greg Bird charged with violent attack

If charges are dropped against Bird, should he return immediately?

  • Yes

    Votes: 85 50.9%
  • No

    Votes: 77 46.1%
  • I don't know/maybe/depends, ie. I'm too weak to have an opinion

    Votes: 5 3.0%

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Dave Q

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Having read your post dave I think it is reasonable to deduce from the circumstancial evidence, culmulatively in geometrical progression and eliminating other possiblities, that Michaels dog glassed Birds girlfriend in a case of mistaken identity, (it's kate not kat you stupid f**king dog), hence Bird is innocent and therefore should be free to play.

:cool::lol:

But respect for Michael , its a tragic case.
 

Dave Q

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It seems to me to be a quest to eliminate other hypotheses of what happened.

Were her injuries consistent with another person glassing her?

How was the glass smashed? On her eye socket or elsewhere?

An expert should be able to tell us.

However it happened, its a nasty injury, they have to pick glass fragments out of the skin over a period of time. Thats why players get fiesty at eye gouges. Its a sensitive area.

Those with long-term damage, they can suffer mental problems and can require plastic surgery.

Our friends at wiki say:

Effects of eye injury

  • Closed globe injury or Non-penetrating trauma: The eye globe is intact, but the seven rings of the eye have been classically described as affected by blunt trauma.
  • Perforating trauma: The globe integrity is disrupted in one place and may be associated with prolapse of internal contents of the eye.
  • Penetrating trauma: The globe integrity is disrupted in two places (through and through injury). This is a quite severe type of eye injury.
  • Blowout fracture of the orbit is caused by blunt trauma, classically described for fist or ball injury, leading to fracture of the floor or medial wall of the orbit due to sudden increased pressure on the orbital contents.
Other clues to what happened will be found on-scene.

The media has reported a large amount of glass fragments found in the bed.... that suggests that the incident happened there.

Now thats a confined space.

The wound appears to wrap around her eye, meaning that at some stage the glass was horizontal to her face. So we can eliminate it falling onto her, unless it was on top of the wardrobe, which is not a convenient place to site a glass.

Is the injury consistent with her falling over and her eye hitting the glass that was on the bedside table or on the floor?

The depth of the gashes may give us an idea of the force used by the girl falling or an arm moving.

It may give us an idea of direction too.

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Picture: News Ltd.
 
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millersnose

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maybe he sees new posts and thinks something important has happened...and then opens it and sees you posting your...ummm...analysis again
 

Quigs

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Bloody Forum coppers.... ..... why don't you go an bash some prisoners

Anyway its Gunna's fault he started it.

Cheers
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Quigs
 
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It seems to me to be a quest to eliminate other hypotheses of what happened.

Were her injuries consistent with another person glassing her?

How was the glass smashed? On her eye socket or elsewhere?

An expert should be able to tell us.

However it happened, its a nasty injury, they have to pick glass fragments out of the skin over a period of time. Thats why players get fiesty at eye gouges. Its a sensitive area.

Those with long-term damage, they can suffer mental problems and can require plastic surgery.

Our friends at wiki say:

Effects of eye injury

  • Closed globe injury or Non-penetrating trauma: The eye globe is intact, but the seven rings of the eye have been classically described as affected by blunt trauma.
  • Perforating trauma: The globe integrity is disrupted in one place and may be associated with prolapse of internal contents of the eye.
  • Penetrating trauma: The globe integrity is disrupted in two places (through and through injury). This is a quite severe type of eye injury.
  • Blowout fracture of the orbit is caused by blunt trauma, classically described for fist or ball injury, leading to fracture of the floor or medial wall of the orbit due to sudden increased pressure on the orbital contents.
Other clues to what happened will be found on-scene.

The media has reported a large amount of glass fragments found in the bed.... that suggests that the incident happened there.

Now thats a confined space.

The wound appears to wrap around her eye, meaning that at some stage the glass was horizontal to her face. So we can eliminate it falling onto her, unless it was on top of the wardrobe, which is not a convenient place to site a glass.

Is the injury consistent with her falling over and her eye hitting the glass that was on the bedside table or on the floor?

The depth of the gashes may give us an idea of the force used by the girl falling or an arm moving.

It may give us an idea of direction too.

0,,6254638,00.jpg


Picture: News Ltd.

One would think "glassing" someone by holding the glass would leave the offender with potentially serious injures of some description to their hand. Nothing has been said that such injuries existed and photos since of Bird do not suggest bandages.

Anyway Dave, no matter how much we forum investigators try to work this out, we will not succeed so, I suggest we just wait and see what happens next.
 

SharkShocked

Bench
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What happens next will be nothing.

He won't talk, she won't talk and then they will drop the case because of insufficient evidence.

Then it will only be a question as to whether Cronulla keeps him on next year and whether he himself is happy with the way in which we have dealt with it and stays at the Sharks.
 

Qld-Sharkie

Juniors
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What happens next will be nothing.

He won't talk, she won't talk and then they will drop the case because of insufficient evidence.

Then it will only be a question as to whether Cronulla keeps him on next year and whether he himself is happy with the way in which we have dealt with it and stays at the Sharks.

Yep, it will be like the Kennedy assasination...no one will know.
But I dont think the Sharks will keep him. I get the feeling from articles & comments that Ricky, Zaps & the club have washed their hands of Bird, they just dont trust him anymore. Bird to SL for a few years and will then come back and sign for the Rorters or Newcastle.
 
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