Gus can shove his "Origin Experience" up his arse

[hutch]

The NRL/ARL should have a say as well. They need to remind C9 that they want POSITIVE coverage of the game to sell it to the public, not just the facts and negative opinions.

Compared to Union commentary where routine plays are lauded to the skies (in the UK Bill McLaren used to wax lyrical about every kick, scrum and dropped ball as though we were witnessing angels playing on earth), league's commentary is almost ridiculously self-deprecating. Or watch the commentary when the Wallabies smash some easybeats by 80+ in a World Cup. The commentators talk up the Wallaby plays, and applaud the 'guts' etc of the 'plucky' losers. In league we're more likely to hear the commentators complain about pointless mismatches.

Gould seems to like being the sage of all RL wisdom, rather than a commentator. As a summariser I have no problem with him, and in terms of his knowledge he's good at putting things across, but in terms of selling the game he's useless.

great post! cant stand gus' commentary, can we even call it commentary?

i think a fresh start with either 7 or 10 could do wonders for the game!

 

[Philip_Smith007]

Sterlo gave him a bit of a ribbing on the "kiwis are out on their feet" after the final try!
Which was nice to see.

 

[1stNov2000]

Sterlo gave him a bit of a ribbing on the "kiwis are out on their feet" after the final try!
Which was nice to see.

Even then, with Gould's reply, only Benji Marshall was going to get all the credit. Apparently Kenny-Dowell, Nightingale and Fien only showed up for the video replay.

 

[Maroon_Faithful]

Origin's good for a warm up game, but test footy is the real pinnacle of our sport.

You have got to be joking. Not only is the support and build-up, inferior in both numbers and intensity, the quality is below SOO standard as well.

Calling Origin a warm up game, is disgraceful and ahistorical IMO.

We can compile a long list of players who've handled Test RL easily and then cracked when faced with Origin pressure - David Williams, Brett Morris, Brett White, Matt Cooper, Ben Creagh et al.

Origin is still the pinnacle by far IMO.

 

[Maroon_Faithful]

well the coach/selectors choose the team on that perceived basis; you could say the same about the NSW or QLD teams - there are bound to be contentious selections when everything is subjective

Even to euphemise about Test teams being picked on SOO form (the way it should actually be done) is laughable. It simply doesn't happen. SOO couldn't mean any less to the ARL at the end of the year. This is why we see so many players get Test jerseys before SOO jerseys (Williams, Waterhouse, Morris, Stewart et al). And why we see hack Origin players like White, Monoghan, Hayne, Farah, O'Donnell, Gallen, Perry etc. continually attain Test selection over proven Origin players like Myles, Harrison, Johnson etc.

 

[Maroon_Faithful]

Origin is a joke. I can't believe there was even a debate that it was the 'pinnacle of the game'. How pathetic is that?

Clearly some people's definition is dependant upon the closeness of the score line. Other than the final, the Four Nations was sh*t quality IMO.

 

[ANTiLAG]

You have got to be joking. Not only is the support and build-up, inferior in both numbers and intensity, the quality is below SOO standard as well.

Calling Origin a warm up game, is disgraceful and ahistorical IMO.

We can compile a long list of players who've handled Test RL easily and then cracked when faced with Origin pressure - David Williams, Brett Morris, Brett White, Matt Cooper, Ben Creagh et al.

Origin is still the pinnacle by far IMO.

Yeah - except when NZ is in the final, and finally bring the intensity and game plan that tests should ALWAYS have - there are Australian players cracking under the pressure. Maybe because they have prepared for a cake walk. 2005 Australia was totally out thought. 2006 - the intensity was nearly too much for Australia. 2008 Australia cracked under the pressure.

2010 - well Billy the Origin Kid was not looking crash out with the pressures of the game. Nor was Cronk...

 

[Godz Illa]

The entire state of origin series was sh*t quality

 

[Brutus]

We can compile a long list of players who've handled Test RL easily and then cracked when faced with Origin pressure - David Williams, Brett Morris, Brett White, Matt Cooper, Ben Creagh et al.

Allan Langer comes to mind as a player who was better in origin than he was tests.

 

[Brutus]

The entire state of origin series was sh*t quality

Agree.

 

[Bobby DIGital]

You have got to be joking. Not only is the support and build-up, inferior in both numbers and intensity, the quality is below SOO standard as well.

Calling Origin a warm up game, is disgraceful and ahistorical IMO.

We can compile a long list of players who've handled Test RL easily and then cracked when faced with Origin pressure - David Williams, Brett Morris, Brett White, Matt Cooper, Ben Creagh et al.

Origin is still the pinnacle by far IMO.

I'd expect a wanker with a username like yours to think that.

Cool sig though...

 

[jim_57]

You have got to be joking. Not only is the support and build-up, inferior in both numbers and intensity, the quality is below SOO standard as well.

Calling Origin a warm up game, is disgraceful and ahistorical IMO.

We can compile a long list of players who've handled Test RL easily and then cracked when faced with Origin pressure - David Williams, Brett Morris, Brett White, Matt Cooper, Ben Creagh et al.

Origin is still the pinnacle by far IMO.

Origin is severely over-rated. All the players you've named are NSW bums who have hardly "handled Test RL easily" the players who dominate at test level are either Queenslanders or NZ'ers.

 

[Maroon_Faithful]

Yeah - except when NZ is in the final, and finally bring the intensity and game plan that tests should ALWAYS have - there are Australian players cracking under the pressure. Maybe because they have prepared for a cake walk. 2005 Australia was totally out thought. 2006 - the intensity was nearly too much for Australia. 2008 Australia cracked under the pressure.

2010 - well Billy the Origin Kid was not looking crash out with the pressures of the game. Nor was Cronk...

And that happens maybe once at the end of each year. The mid-year Tests have been cake walks, overwhelmingly, over the last decade and the quality from either side has often been rusty, as would be expected.

 

[Maroon_Faithful]

The entire state of origin series was sh*t quality

For 2010, I tend to agree. I don't think they were as bad as Australia v PNG, or Australia v England, though.

 

[Maroon_Faithful]

I'd expect a wanker with a username like yours to think that.

Cool sig though...

Nice retort. Do you have one on-topic and without invective?

Let me guess, you're a Kiwis fan?

 

[Maroon_Faithful]

Origin is severely over-rated. All the players you've named are NSW bums who have hardly "handled Test RL easily" the players who dominate at test level are either Queenslanders or NZ'ers.

Which players of the list I named, didn't handle Test RL?

Calling Brett Morris a bum is rather unusual I have to say.

 

[Big Pete]

For 2010, I tend to agree. I don't think they were as bad as Australia v PNG, or Australia v England, though.

2009 too...

Heck even 2008 was a pretty flimsy series, you know the quality is low when Hunt can win a game at five eigth.

 

[Maroon_Faithful]

2009 too...

Heck even 2008 was a pretty flimsy series, you know the quality is low when Hunt can win a game at five eigth.

I really think some people are mistaking closeness for quality.

Your rationale of Hunt winning a game at 5/8th is ridiculous IMO. I mean NSW won a series with Anasta or Timmins at 6; does that mean it was automatically sh*t quality RL?

 

[Big Pete]

Your rationale of Hunt winning a game at 5/8th is ridiculous IMO. I mean NSW won a series with Anasta or Timmins at 6; does that mean it was automatically sh*t quality RL?

No because those players actually played well in their respective positions. Hunt played as if he was a ghost and Thurston had to basically carry Queensland for the rest of the game. Not that he had to carry them that far...NSW were extremely pedestrian.

The last quality game that meant anything was Game 2 2007...the rest have either been one sided or mediocre.

 

[Tigger Madness]

2009 too...

Heck even 2008 was a pretty flimsy series, you know the quality is low when Hunt can win a game at five eigth.

Actually Queensland lost the game with Hunt at five eighth. They then made changes and put Prince at halfback with Thurston at five eighth and demolished NSW at Suncorp.