halves for next year?

[Djay]

His simply not a FG half, did the job in 09 and will never do it again. Simple.

 

[lingard]

For the record, I actually thought Robson was a our weakest link in 09.
Lot's of poor passes and pushing of passes near the line, he put alot of pressure on our forwards.
Lucky we have the best pack in the game.[/QUOTE]


Well, I agree with you on that point; except that the hooker position could be better.

 

[mrpwnd]

For the record, I actually thought Robson was a our weakest link in 09.
Lot's of poor passes and pushing of passes near the line, he put alot of pressure on our forwards.
Lucky we have the best pack in the game.[/QUOTE]


Well, I agree with you on that point; except that the hooker position could be better.

Excluding MK of course
I'm dead set tired with that kids x50 dummies and run.
Is it a Keating trait? Both brothers do that stupid dummy/run as their main bread and butter technique, it's quite an atrocity for them to persist with it all season long.
I can only dream of the prospect of interchanging between Kingston and Mitch.

 

[Djay]

Excluding MK of course
I'm dead set tired with that kids x50 dummies and run.
Is it a Keating trait? Both brothers do that stupid dummy/run as their main bread and butter technique, it's quite an atrocity for them to persist with it all season long.
I can only dream of the prospect of interchanging between Kingston and Mitch.

Your not the only, I hope I don't see him in FG next year.

 

[TheParraboy]

Id like to ask Mr Kearney if Grothe will play in the back row in 2011.

Id also like to ask, well more of a suggestion really, is that would it be possible if the boys do their warm ups down the southern terrace next season? If not every home game, possibly every 2nd one. I think this is a great tactic over the opposition

Cheers

 

[ParraFan09]

There is no way grothe will play in the back row, we have good back rowers at the club its our strongest postion IMO. so i think Eric will be back in the 5 jumper next season.

 

[84 Baby]

Excluding MK of course
I'm dead set tired with that kids x50 dummies and run.
Is it a Keating trait? Both brothers do that stupid dummy/run as their main bread and butter technique, it's quite an atrocity for them to persist with it all season long.
I can only dream of the prospect of interchanging between Kingston and Mitch.

I've come to the conclusion that MK knows he does them to much and that opposition will not fall for them, but the first time he actually passes the ball he is going to be looking the other way when he gets hammered because the tackler just assumed he was dummying

 

[ParraFan09]

I think MK is a good back up hooker though, behind McGuire, Mitchell, Robson (If we sign a halfback). Good depth at hooker for next season.

 

[Wise Old Eel]

I would start with: 7. Robson; 6. Humble. I just hope that Kearney is not as stubborn as Anderson appeared to be with Mortimer`s selection. (Although, I guess we still don`t know if that was entirely Anderson`s choice, do we?)

Agreed.

I am keen to see why certain people think this Kearney bloke is a better coaching option than a coach who has made what 5 (?) grand finals in 9 years of coaching at the top level. If he thinks Mortimer should be anywhere near the starting 17, he has already gone some way to proving his coaching nous is a myth. But we'll have to wait & see. Mortimer would need to consistently do something spectacular for Wenty before I would consider him again for the top grade.

On Robson, I think he is solid. His skill set is not as high as the top ranked halfbacks but he is capable of doing the job. I would start the season with him, with a view to slowly increasing Murray’s stint as the season wears on. By the end of the year, our halves (in my opinion) should end up being 6. Humble, 7. Murray.

The idea of building for a future of 1. Hayne, 6. Humble, 7. Murray, 9. Mitchell is mouth watering to say the least.

WOE

 

[Djay]

Agreed.

I am keen to see why certain people think this Kearney bloke is a better coaching option than a coach who has made what 5 (?) grand finals in 9 years of coaching at the top level. If he thinks Mortimer should be anywhere near the starting 17, he has already gone some way to proving his coaching nous is a myth. But we'll have to wait & see. Mortimer would need to consistently do something spectacular for Wenty before I would consider him again for the top grade.

On Robson, I think he is solid. His skill set is not as high as the top ranked halfbacks but he is capable of doing the job. I would start the season with him, with a view to slowly increasing Murray’s stint as the season wears on. By the end of the year, our halves (in my opinion) should end up being 6. Humble, 7. Murray.

The idea of building for a future of 1. Hayne, 6. Humble, 7. Murray, 9. Mitchell is mouth watering to say the least.

WOE

I agree totally for our future this would be brilliant but I wouldn't use Robson at all, simply not FG standard.

 

[Springs]

Aye, a 6,7 and 9 who have played seven first grade games combined are obviously going to be brilliant. Of course I am basing this on absolutely nothing, compared to Robson and Mortimer's runners-up medals.

 

[boxhead]

Aye, a 6,7 and 9 who have played seven first grade games combined are obviously going to be brilliant. Of course I am basing this on absolutely nothing, compared to Robson and Mortimer's runners-up medals.

Have to agree with you here, we need at least one experienced player in the halves and an experienced starting hooker, which is where Robson, Mcguire, Keating all come in (and Mortimer to an extent).

 

[Eelementary]

Agreed.

I am keen to see why certain people think this Kearney bloke is a better coaching option than a coach who has made what 5 (?) grand finals in 9 years of coaching at the top level. If he thinks Mortimer should be anywhere near the starting 17, he has already gone some way to proving his coaching nous is a myth. But we'll have to wait & see. Mortimer would need to consistently do something spectacular for Wenty before I would consider him again for the top grade.

On Robson, I think he is solid. His skill set is not as high as the top ranked halfbacks but he is capable of doing the job. I would start the season with him, with a view to slowly increasing Murray’s stint as the season wears on. By the end of the year, our halves (in my opinion) should end up being 6. Humble, 7. Murray.

The idea of building for a future of 1. Hayne, 6. Humble, 7. Murray, 9. Mitchell is mouth watering to say the least.

WOE

With all due respect, that doesn't mean much. Ricky Stuart made three straight Grand Final appearances for one win - is he the messiah?

Anderson had a great record of getting teams to the Grand Final, but his record of actually winning it is not exactly great....In fact, in terms of NRL, Kearney and Anderson have the same amount of NRL Premierships to their names.

 

[The EELiminator]

With all due respect, that doesn't mean much. Ricky Stuart made three straight Grand Final appearances for one win - is he the messiah?

Anderson had a great record of getting teams to the Grand Final, but his record of actually winning it is not exactly great....In fact, in terms of NRL, Kearney and Anderson have the same amount of NRL Premierships to their names.

but anderson has 2 grand finals to his name vs 0 finals appearances (or even first grade appearances) for kearney

 

[lingard]

I agree totally for our future this would be brilliant but I wouldn't use Robson at all, simply not FG standard.

I agree that Robson isn`t great, but I disagree that he isn`t first grade standard (listens for the sound of Dellboy`s boots running down the hall :sarcasm: ) I think he is infinitely better than the tripe that Mortimer dished up this year.

 

[lingard]

Agreed.

I am keen to see why certain people think this Kearney bloke is a better coaching option than a coach who has made what 5 (?) grand finals in 9 years of coaching at the top level. If he thinks Mortimer should be anywhere near the starting 17, he has already gone some way to proving his coaching nous is a myth. But we'll have to wait & see. Mortimer would need to consistently do something spectacular for Wenty before I would consider him again for the top grade.

On Robson, I think he is solid. His skill set is not as high as the top ranked halfbacks but he is capable of doing the job. I would start the season with him, with a view to slowly increasing Murray’s stint as the season wears on. By the end of the year, our halves (in my opinion) should end up being 6. Humble, 7. Murray.

The idea of building for a future of 1. Hayne, 6. Humble, 7. Murray, 9. Mitchell is mouth watering to say the least.

WOE

I don`t have any problems about slowly easing Robson out of the halves; but I refuse to even think about this Murray fellow. All I know about him is that he hasn`t played any NRL and people rave about him. We`ve been down that track before. :sarcasm: I think we both agree on Humble, though. I`m bravely predicting he`s going to be the messiah. The next Brett Kenny. (God, I hope I don`t make a fool of myself. Again.)

 

[Eelementary]

but anderson has 2 grand finals to his name vs 0 finals appearances (or even first grade appearances) for kearney

He can have 100 Grand Final appearances to his name, but his winning record is still zero.

I don't think making Grand Finals is as important as winning one once in a while - ask Brian Smith how he feels. He's made a few by now and lost every single one, the poor guy.

Again, Stuart has 3 Grand Final appearances to his name - for a winning record of one out of three. Hardly grounds on which to call him a super coach.

The point still stands, though - in terms of NRL Premierships, Stephen Kearney and Daniel Anderson's records are identical. So why not support our new coach?

 

[Eelementary]

I don`t have any problems about slowly easing Robson out of the halves; but I refuse to even think about this Murray fellow. All I know about him is that he hasn`t played any NRL and people rave about him. We`ve been down that track before. :sarcasm: I think we both agree on Humble, though. I`m bravely predicting he`s going to be the messiah. The next Brett Kenny. (God, I hope I don`t make a fool of myself. Again.)

With all due respect, sir, the irony in your statement is rather strange - you refuse to think of Brad Murray as he has no First Grade experience, but praise a fellow in Tom Humble who has something like 5 First Grade games to his name.

I am one of the few who does not understand the Humbly hype. He seemed, to me, solid but unspectacular when he played First Grade. He has talent, undoubtedly, but I don't see where the comparisons and accolades come from.

But my point is, if you're willing to back Humble, then surely you must be willing to back Murray?

Please note I am not trying to come across as accusatory, but merely stimulating debate.

 

[yy_cheng]

Is it a Keating trait? Both brothers do that stupid dummy/run as their main bread and butter technique, it's quite an atrocity for them to persist with it all season long.

Well there were stories that they played against each other 1 on 1 in the back yard.

What else would you learn then? All they could do was dummy and pass in the backyard.

For mine, MK holds the ball too long in his hands. Fine if he does what Cam Smith and Robbie Farah does but he doesn't.

KK to me is damn selfish and he likes to prove how good he is so he dummies and runs and what I also hate is that he kicks to himself alot.

Why not kick it to team mates and try and get a repeat 6. Much better than a low percentage kick for yourself and then get knocked down by a defender just standing there.


Actually, I personally would change KK into a centre. He defends well enough and his jinky, dummy and run could be effective when his is one on one with the opposition centre.

 

[yy_cheng]

I agree that Robson isn`t great, but I disagree that he isn`t first grade standard (listens for the sound of Dellboy`s boots running down the hall :sarcasm: ) I think he is infinitely better than the tripe that Mortimer dished up this year.

I don't think Robbo is a first grade standard halfback.

However, he's the best option we've got atm because he will follow the gameplan and get the ball to the right people.