Harawira-Naera and Okunbor suspended

[SBD82]

A simple IQ test would smash that argument

Heck, it might prove they have the mentality of a primary school kid and could help them

I take your point, but there are plenty of school teachers that I’ve met who would be on the wrong side of the curve.

 

[hineyrulz]

Who let the Dogs out FFS!!

 

[gUt]

Got sympathy for these guys as young men with girls throwing themselves at them. Of course nature will take its course. Provided the girls are able to give legal consent then i personally don’t rate this a moral crime, although banging 16 year olds is seedy as it gets but again, hard to blame them.

BUT if you expect a company/brand like the NRL to defend these guys for the damage this will do/is doing just as the season is launching you’ve got rocks in your head.

utterly stupid, unprofessional and just feeding the predatory media pack for years to come. Look what the AFL went thru with the st kilda school girl. Oh how we pointed and laughed...

 

[Tooooks]

Wow 2 young men bring young girls back to their apartments

Scandalous riveting stuff

Most people are against grown men bringing children back to their hotel room I would’ve thought.

 

[Tooooks]

Anyone got a link to the video? I assume they filmed it. Asking for a mate..

A sex video with an under 18 is child porn under legislation, but if that’s your thing...

 

[Valheru]

If they had of met the girls at a club then fair game but they allegedly met them through a school program which is very poor form to say the least.

 

[Eion]

Vile. Chuck the book at them.

 

[betcats]

Got sympathy for these guys as young men with girls throwing themselves at them. Of course nature will take its course. Provided the girls are able to give legal consent then i personally don’t rate this a moral crime, although banging 16 year olds is seedy as it gets but again, hard to blame them.

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Why is hard to blame them? Its also filthy IMO, professional athletes picking up teenagers at a high school. Says a lot about of bad things about these two.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

This may be the dumbest non-alcohol related incident ever in RL.

These guys went next level stupid. Who cares if it was legal or not, the amount of times they had the opportunity to step back and say "This probably isn't the best idea" and still went through with it.

I'm not outraged, just struggling to understand this new level of stupidity that NRL players will now have to be measured against.

 

[gUt]

Why is hard to blame them? Its filthy IMO, professional athletes picking up teenagers at a high school. Says a lot about of bad things about these two.

I agree with this. I guess I'm just relieved that at least it wasn't illegal. Also I think a high proportion of blokes would not have been able to say no, because in general we are dirty dogs. But yeah completely agree that if you know they're still in school and you're in your 20s, it's seedy and you should probably take a good look in the mirror.

 

[betcats]

I agree with this. I guess I'm just relieved that at least it wasn't illegal. Also I think a high proportion of blokes would not have been able to say no, because in general we are dirty dogs. But yeah completely agree that if you know they're still in school and you're in your 20s, it's seedy and you should probably take a good look in the mirror.

Yeah fair enough. I just don't see who else is to blame here. Forgetting the moral aspect of this the players are responsible, they made this decision breaking team rules to bring girls back, anyone with half a brain can see how shitty this was going to look.

 

[Haffa]

Where is our resident holier than now Bulldogs fan?

 

[Haffa]

This just about covers it.

 

[gUt]

Definitely they are to blame for acting unprofessionally and breaking team rules in the second-dumbest way possible. Definitely they are to blame for thinking with their dicks. My sympathy extends as far as knowing what that (thinking with one's dick) can do to many (most?) young blokes. Their careers in Australia are probably over - and rightly so. Hope it was worth it you seedy idiots.

Like someone else said, a friend of a friend was done for something similar. Met a couple of 17 year old girls one day in the Valley, took them back home, smoked some weed and banged them. He was only 20 at the time. Problem is they were in school uniform. He went to jail for it, I think mainly because he gave them drugs. It's really hard to fathom what the hell he was thinking until you can honestly put yourself in that same position and ask yourself.. would you? I know I wouldn't now, but at 20? It's an uncomfortable question.

Anyway this is off topic because this bloke I'm talking about was not representing two layers of employer as a public person inside a school in a position of authority and specifically there to generate good will and PR.

 

[Eion]

I agree with this. I guess I'm just relieved that at least it wasn't illegal. Also I think a high proportion of blokes would not have been able to say no, because in general we are dirty dogs. But yeah completely agree that if you know they're still in school and you're in your 20s, it's seedy and you should probably take a good look in the mirror.

I don’t really care that it wasn’t illegal. If the girls were 15 years 364 days these guys go to jail. 1 day older, they get off.

These guys at 23 and 24 aren’t pups. They have ‘cashed in’ on their fame with vulnerable girls. Imagine a young social worker visiting a school doing this? If I’m their employer I sack them. No question.

 

[gUt]

I don’t really care that it wasn’t illegal. If the girls were 15 years 364 days these guys go to jail. 1 day older, they get off.

The law cares, as absurd as it can be if you squint at it closely enough. Think of how much worse this would be for all concerned if they were 15 years 364 days.

These guys at 23 and 24 aren’t pups. They have ‘cashed in’ on their fame with vulnerable girls. Imagine a young social worker visiting a school doing this? If I’m their employer I sack them. No question.

agreed

 

[betcats]

I wonder either of them have girlfriends/partners? Imagine explaning that one to them if so haha

 

[gUt]

So jumping ahead here, does anyone know what the enforceable penalties are in this circumstance? They broke a team rule and damaged the image of the game so presumably the NRL or the Dogs could choose to mitigate the damage to the brand by sacking these idiots immediately. Think of what happened to Folau, a much higher-profile player, who simply tweeted his idiocy.

Leaving aside the question of whether the Dogs' roster can afford to lose them, if terminated, could the players go to court citing they didn't do anything illegal therefore unfair dismissal? What a pleasant scenario that'd be for the code.

 

[betcats]

So jumping ahead here, does anyone know what the enforceable penalties are in this circumstance? They broke a team rule and damaged the image of the game so presumably the NRL or the Dogs could choose to mitigate the damage to the brand by sacking these idiots immediately. Think of what happened to Folau, a much higher-profile player, who simply tweeted his idiocy.

Leaving aside the question of whether the Dogs roster can afford to lose them, if terminated, could the players go to court citing they didn't do anything illegal therefore unfair dismissal? What a pleasant scenario that'd be for the code.

I think the NRLs code of conduct would be a little more stringent than that. They have breached the team rules, the dogs can fire them no problems. Whether or not the NRL can de-register them is another question but I daresay they have not only broken the bulldogs rules but breached the NRLs code of conduct in which case its see ya later.

 

[myrrh ken]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...e/news-story/f29dbb71480d0cd57c5e72f93eb56f61

Its been suggested that it was only Okunbor present at the school trip.